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 Nokia Lumia 1020 & Various Nokia M$ Talk, RM2,499 with camera grip.

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post Sep 19 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Sep 19 2013, 11:31 AM)
Just asking, will QuadCore solve this time-consuming process problem?
I thought a dedicated graphic chip will play the role more vitally, no?
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Not likely. It may reduce the lag by less than half the time, say if it's 5s, expect 3s for quad. Dedicated processing chip is still the way to go (or at least, throw in a hexa or octa)
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QUOTE(arbelnox @ Sep 19 2013, 11:33 AM)
oh yeah, this 2499 is 32GB? Is there any pricing on 64GB?
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Don't think it'll reach our shores. 64GB is meant for telcos, ours aren't keen on supporting Nokia.

Same with 925 32GB

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Sep 19 2013, 11:35 AM)
Dedicated chip makes it hard to update the algorithms, and everyone seems to think it's the processing that's thiking time. Hasn't anyone thought about the time taken to write the large file to the storage?
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Writing file to storage shouldn't really be much of a problem if it's a flash drive. You don't find similar lag on a 808 smile.gif

As for algorithm update, it's only a matter of firmware update.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:38 AM)
2499 memang a bit overprice

if 2.1k with camera grip then i think it's reasonable
yes..from my point of view ..lag from saving picture and initializing the apps should be more on storage bandwidth and processor power (maybe it can overcome if they clock it to higher clock speed)
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No matter how high it's clocked, the 2 cores can only do so much. They'll just screw you over and tell you, dude, wait in line.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:43 AM)
yup..windows 8 cannot support full hd screen n quad core ...need to wait until 8.1  smile.gif

hopefully we can see better phone in next year  biggrin.gif
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GDR3 will bring support for quad (hopefully Snapdragon 800) and 1080p resolution which is expected to roll out in late November (US & Canada) and Jan 2014 for us ....
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:48 AM)
808 also lag when taking full res mode, about 1s++
Still acceptable, but many normal users may not able to accept or understand the reason.
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Yea, which is why I said, you won't find similar lag compared to 1020 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Sep 19 2013, 11:55 AM)
Bila boss ? October ka ?
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Announce in Oct, release in Nov, arrive our shores in Dec brows.gif
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 19 2013, 12:09 PM)
Storekini Pre Order
include Free Grip and Silvertec Sanyo 5200mAh Power Bank

https://www.storekini.com/nokia-lumia-1020.html
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I for one do not trsut Sanyo icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(fact3 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:28 PM)
Ugh, while im not aiming for 1020, the price actually crush my hope of seeing more lumia in the market...
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Well, think of it this way. It's a niche.

You know, last Sunday, I visited Nokia Store in Gardens. 925 was selling like hot cakes. People went, they gave 16% off, and almost immediately, 925s were out of stock.

To top it off, my aunt bought a unit too smile.gif
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QUOTE(Silfer @ Sep 19 2013, 12:30 PM)
why? I find Sanyo AA battery is good though.

finish exam, come out check the pricing,  shocking.gif
now wait price drop. well, at least I'm in a rush to change my old nokia. why won't my nokia just die on me??  tongue.gif
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I bought a Sanyo kettle, 1 week started leaking .... doh.gif
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:40 PM)
i think the phalet sound more attracting now after see 1020 price.
vomit blood even with out grip 2.2k still pain to own. stupid elop *@?!&?@*!?@$€¥

i think i need consider 920 better
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Err, this has got nothing to do with Elop.
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 19 2013, 12:38 PM)
Lol, the funniest quote of the day.
Adui, how could it leaked oh?
I mean kettle is a so low-tech/common and what lagi compare to Battery technology
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No idea. The bottom part started to leak doh.gif
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QUOTE(fact3 @ Sep 19 2013, 01:27 PM)
If the jack up the price jus to give discount later, theyre really messing up with thier loyal customer.
Such high price surely will deter first timer, just not the price for experimental people.
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Well, experimental people don't usually go for the highest end. Like mentioned before, 1020 is more for the photography fags. 925 is more than good enough for daily use + shootings.
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QUOTE(dc28yk @ Sep 19 2013, 04:23 PM)
Do you know where i can get the 925 at 16% off>?
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Offer is over. Wait for Christmas
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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Sep 19 2013, 11:03 PM)
christmas 25% biggrin.gif
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Wishful thinking, but why the hell not? brows.gif

Anything can happen smile.gif
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QUOTE(David900924 @ Sep 20 2013, 07:55 AM)
the price is normally price skyrocket, coz thats how every new phone by nokia price at, just wait after a month or two n drop like crazy.

besides, GDR3 only for phablet or all nokia w8 phone??
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GDR3 is meant for every phone dude
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QUOTE(David900924 @ Sep 20 2013, 08:51 AM)
because it say GDR3 for quad core, afraid it may not support to 1020. juz like lumia 800, cant update to w8.0.
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GDR3 enables support for quad, doesn't mean it's only for quad.

Edit: Until they do a complete kernel change (not likely for at least another 3 years), you'll keep getting updates. Think Windows Update on PC.

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Sep 20 2013, 10:43 AM)
If I'm not mistaken the promise from MS was that all phones will get updates 2 years from it's original shipping date.
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When they announced it, it was 18 months. Extended to 36 months recently.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Sep 20 2013, 09:57 AM)
Thanks for the clear and detail info. Yes, if already make decision to purchase, don't look back and just enjoy your device. Whatever device will eventually drop price, if already decided to purchase and need to get it immediately then don't look back. If can wait, then just wait until "cannot wait" ahahaha.

For this 1020, I can only say:
The main target should be the predecessor, the Nokia 808 PureView Customers. They should grab these customers so that they STAY with Nokia. These customers are not WP users, does Nokia-Microsoft want the customer's to TRY and switch to Lumia series PureView?
If these customers somehow jump to another platform, Nokia just lost their customer base,... just like how they did when they switch to WP and looses a lot of their Symbian Customers (that's also one major reason why Samseng become successful; majority of their customers are from Nokia)
Now is the time they need to grab more customers into their Lumia series, in terms of Camera features, the Z1 is marketing it and the Galaxy S4 Zoom (of course this is bulky); If the customers didn't choose Lumia because of the price, Nokia-Microsoft just lost potential customers again.

Another important factor is, for those people who just 'switch' platform, say from Symbian, iOS, BB, etc. Imagine if the chosen the Android alternative because of 1020 pricing. Once they 'started' the new platform, they setup their 'accounts', they start to invest/downloads their apps and customize their Androids.
It's even harder for them to switch to WP next time, especially for those who started investing into apps/games; switching platform means their purchases all goes to waste because they have to 'start over' at WP platform.
I wonder if Nokia-Microsoft realizes this important criteria? I inform Nokia's staff before about this importance since WP7, but not sure if it reaches which level.
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Well, there's something you can do. Teach them a lesson by not buying. When sales drops, inventory costs go up and they will suffer a blow when the next batch comes in. They will be forced to play nice with their pricing.

In the end, it's the end users who have the say. So, vote with your wallet.
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QUOTE(weirdguy @ Sep 20 2013, 10:59 AM)
I'm planning to do that - Currently On Strike until I cannot tahan or until I see reasonable price drop.

You? Getting one on Pre-Order/Nokia Store on 27/09?
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Not yet. I'm taking a wait and see approach. Afterall, I have a 920 with me brows.gif

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