Oh btw I'll be doing demo for Oculus Rift at lowyat plaza this Sunday, if you wanna come over to try out can let me know

at my shop @ level 2. I have another customer wanna try so inviting anyone else who also wanna try to come along.

Two new products announced at CES.

Vive Cosmos
Inside out tracking
Oculus Quest style controller
WMR style flip (will it get wobbly?)
PC powered, but HTC yet to confirm will it be tetherless
No price mentioned

Vive Pro Eye
A Vive Pro headset with eye tracking tech added
No price mentioned but with current Vive Pro at $799, expect it'll cost more.

Interesting products teased by HTC. Especially Vive Cosmos (as Vive Pro Eye is naturally gonna be super expensive and out of reach of home users). Too bad their lips are sealed on further details such as technical specs and price range.

It'll be sort of the perfect home users VR set if
1. priced at the same/lower price point of today's standard Vive ($499);
2. tetherless but able to achieve same/better graphic quality as standard Vive;
3. similar/higher resolution from today's standard Vive;
4. no wobblyness eventhough using WMR style flip;
5. the 4 inside out tracking sensor has superwide angle to maintain tracking accuracy

HTC mentioned Cosmos isn't a successor for the original Vive. This statement makes me speculate that either it'll not be tetherless OR it'll be a dumb-down version to reduce weight, improve comfort, and support tetherless via lower graphic quality or mobile device.

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Jan 8 2019, 12:15 PM

Anyone can advise how to do a quick reset view for steam store games/steamvr?

When running games bought from Oculus store, Oculus has a very handy reset view function accessible from long press option button. It'll instantly reset front facing direction and center area according to where you're facing and standing.

However when running games bought from Steam store through SteamVR, I can't find any option to do this. The native Oculus reset view won't work when steamVR is running on top of Oculus.

The only way I know now is either to take off the HMD and place it on the floor and do recalibration everytime I start/restart SteamVR, or even more tedious is to access advanced setting in SteamVR and adjust play area position.

all games, thing is, I move around and shift my set up quite frequently cuz I bring my VR and PC around.

So, the direction and center of the play area will not be correct unless I do a full play area set up everytime I set up in a new location.

Good thing is, using Oculus and playing games bought from Oculus store, I don't need to run full play area set up although its recommended, I can just stand in the middle of my new location and press reset view and everything will be alright, its very fast and convenient, can do it wearing the HMD.

But because steam game need to run via SteamVR. This function don't work, and I can't find the equivalent of this function in SteamVR setting. I had to take off the HMD, put it on the floor of my new location, then run recalibration. And if SteamVR crash or need to restart steamvr, I have to do the recalibration thing again.

yup i saw that reset seated position function too, clicked on it but nothing happen.

Just a thought, many wish for tetherless VR HMD but powered by PC for best graphic.

This means signal between HMD and PC need to be transferred wirelessly. But are we really ok to have wireless device receiving and transmitting signal attached directly on our head? Imagine all that wireless frequencies in contact with our head/brain.

haha no no, just that it suddenly came to my mind.

So just wanna bring up for discussion, wondering did anyone else thought about this risk and are we gonna be ok with it.

Yup true but atleast we don't stick our phones directly to our head for hours.

For VR, its gonna be attached to our head for hours, assuming we play for hours.

Ya I know about Advance Setting too but its not exactly can be done on the fly, it takes a few steps to adjust the VR space instead of instantly recenter based on your current position.

Searched around but it seems SteamVR really don't have such setting. Too bad then

talk fact, and numbers don't lie, and the amount of Oculus Rift customers I've served over my 2 years period is fact that locally more and more people are getting into VR, whether its home users or business users.

And with HTC started selling official set, I'm not surprise their number also increased tremendously.

Also, more and more VR themepark popping up, albeit expensive still they are attracting customers.

Other than resolution, do checkout what type of lenses the different WMR are using, OLED vs LCD.

OLED has advantage as it has low persistence to mitigate ghosting and fuzziness, it has deeper blacks for better contrast.

Most cheaper WMR headset are using LCD, compared the the more expensive Samsung Odyssey WMR which uses AMOLED.

Oculus Rift is using OLED.

FOV is also another thing that differentiate between cheaper WMR headset vs more expensive ones, the more expensive Samsung Odyssey have 110 degree FOV while some of the cheaper ones only have 95 degree FOV.

Oculus Rift has 110 degree FOV.

However, its notable that some of the cheaper WMR headset can be flipped up, this is very convenient since you mentioned you plan to use it for development. As you'd most likely need to switch between your monitor and the VR very frequently, this flip up mechanism is definitely a big plus point for you.

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Feb 18 2019, 05:53 PM

As a long time Oculus Rift user, now owning an Odyssey+, I can really say the lens/display really very clear and nice. Really put me into a dilemma deciding which VR I like more.

I really like the Odyssey+ lens so much, but the headset is heavy and bulky compared to Oculus Rift.

Other than that, the Halo style headset isn't very comfortable for long session, alot of pressure on my forehead mainly due to weight distribution not ideal.

The the front part hangs from the halo style headstrap instead of being press and supported by my face, this made it wobble around if I shake my head too fast too hard.

The WMR controller plastic feels cheap.

But despite the above, I really fall in love with the display so much. I tried Vive, I own a Rift, but none of those can match Odyssey+ display. (Let's not include Vive Pro as the price is not comparable)

I like headsets with slight light leak at nose area. So I can access my mouse, keyboard and phone without taking the headset off.

stuck as in the hdmi cable stuck to the GPU hdmi slot?

The hdmi cable don't have hook/locking mechanism, how is it possible to be stuck?

Oculus Rift S

Key specs:

- 5 inside out tracking sensor
- Halo style design
- 1,280 × 1,440 per eye resolution
- 80Hz LCD lenses
- No Hardware IPD Adjustment
- Same hardware requirement as the original Oculus Rift

My first impression after reading the specs and articles from various VR sites such as UploadVR and RoadtoVR:

- 5 inside out tracking sensor simplifies the setup process of the original Rift, and 5 sensors will have lesser blind spot compared to WMR's 2 sensor
- Not a fan of Halo style design, always felt the weight distribution is a tad off in those WMR headsets. However this comes with a velcro strap, and quoting from Oculus website, they mentioned "Lenovo co-designed the Rift S for increased comfort, better weight distribution, and improved light blocking" so it'll be interesting to see how will it be a better weight distribution VR compared to the original Rift.
- Resolution not as high as the Odyssey+ (I'm comparing to Odyssey+ because I regard it as the clearest and highest resolution VR in this price range), we will have to wait for more hands on review to find out is it enough.
- 80Hz is not that much lower than the original Rift's 90Hz, so it may not be that noticeable to majority of the people.
- LCD lenses means the screen door effect (SDE) from using OLED lenses in the original Rift will be reduced, whether will it top Odyssey+'s anti-SDE AMOLED lenses or not remains to be seen. However, like in most WMR headset and even the expensive Pimax, LCD lenses tend to give greyish black instead of pure black.
- It will not have hardware IPD adjustment, IPD will only be adjusted via software. However Oculus hasn’t specified the software IPD range, thus people with a very narrow or wide IPD may/may not have problem.
- In order to be commercially viable to be sold to more customer base instead only marketed to a niche group of customers with high end PC, Oculus decides to not bump the resolution and the refresh rate too high so the minimum hardware requirement is still same as the original Rift, this means you don't need to have a super computer to enjoy it.

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Mar 21 2019, 01:22 AM

I hope Quest is able to mirror the display to external screen such as a TV/monitor and not just cast to mobile phone like Oculus Go

Otherwise it's gonna be a very isolated experience.

Also another possible problem with Quest is, we can only play games from Oculus Store, not steam. Oculus store games are sold in USD so it can be a bit pricey.

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Mar 21 2019, 05:50 PM

Extension cable for Oculus Rift / WMR, tried and tested, worked well

This post has been edited by shirley_andy: Mar 25 2019, 11:28 PM

nice, using USB 2.0?

Liang is me

I foresee the 128gb version to drop price but the 64gb version may take sometime before it drop price.


This post has been edited by shirley_andy: May 3 2019, 11:47 AM