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post May 14 2013, 05:58 AM, updated 13y ago

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i cant sleep during night and i always get my sleep in the afternoon, and even that i still didn't sleep continuously for hours, i sleep for like 1hour then wake up again, then take another sleep for another 1 hour and repeat again, i have this habit since i were young, i once told my parents but what they said is i used to sleep in the afternoon, hence, i cant sleep in the night, but this is not true at all, sometimes i can sleep in the night but sometimes i cant, if i used to sleep in the afternoon, that will be like a habit for me to sleep during the day, work during the night, but the problem im having now is, i MUST sleep during the afternoon, and sometimes i can or i cant sleep during the night

the reason i cant sleep at night is also weird
here are the list-
-i must go to the toilet to pee even though i don't feel like peeing, i have a weird feeling like i scare the feeling of going to pee will disturb me when im resting.therefore, before i fall asleep, i go to the toilet for like 4-5 times
-i must cover myself with blanket even though the weather is hot or the room is hot, it has nothing to do with the temperature, just that i must cover myself with blanket, reason? i scare ghost touching my skin, and mosquito as well
-if i sleep on a mattress i must always alert the mattress to attach the side of the mattress to the wall, i don't know why i have this feeling, but i must attach it to the side, that's why once my body moves, and the mattress moves a little, i must push the mattress attach to the wall again

these anxiousness made me can't even sleep, and i will keep thinking it over and over again

for your information, the anxiety not only happens when i'm off to bed, it happens all the time

this including i always check the tv, fan, water not switched off or closed, i recheck and check many times fear that those electrical devices will leave it on and cost a lot for electrical bill, every time my family especially my mom goes in to the room, after they leave the room, i tend to go in and check the fan, tv, tap water, my mom also noticed about since when i was young, around age 7-12 i couldn't remember when is it

and also i only use 1 spoon fork and plate in my house, this means that i don't share the same spoon with my family, i have my own spoons and forks, reason? i have a feeling like sharing spoons and forks are dirty, so last night when i was having my dinner, i found out that my spoon is twisted and crooked due to some reason, i force to use the spoon that used by all of my family members, i didn't enjoy the dinner and i keep worry about the spoon, even until today, it's like a feeling like there are worms in my body, i know those kitchen stuffs have been washed with soap, but i still worry something, something that is inexplicable,i just worry there are small bacteria in the shared spoon, also, i don't eat chicken, pork and seafood as well,not that im vegetarian , but i feel like these foods are dirty, i do eat beef, im a chinese

these are the sort of things i can think of right now, these anxiety really bugging me off i think i have some mental problem, should i see a psychiatrist? this happened long ago, but recently it worsens, and i just cant stop thinking all of these and recently some new things add in and keep bugging my mind, im thinking too much and there're so much things bugging me that makes me can't even sleep,some weird of insomnia not due to depression, but anxiety

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post May 14 2013, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 05:58 AM)
i cant sleep during night and i always get my sleep in the afternoon, and even that i still didn't sleep continuously for hours, i sleep for like 1hour then wake up again, then take another sleep for another 1 hour and repeat again, i have this habit since i were young, i once told my parents but what they said is i used to sleep in the afternoon, hence, i cant sleep in the night, but this is not true at all, sometimes i can sleep in the night but sometimes i cant, if i used to sleep in the afternoon, that will be like a habit for me to sleep during the day, work during the night, but the problem im having now is, i MUST sleep during the afternoon, and sometimes i can or i cant sleep during the night

the reason i cant sleep at night is also weird
here are the list-
-i must go to the toilet to pee even though i don't feel like peeing, i have a weird feeling like i scare the feeling of going to pee will disturb me when im resting.therefore, before i fall asleep, i go to the toilet for like 4-5 times
-i must cover myself with blanket even though the weather is hot or the room is hot, it has nothing to do with the temperature, just that i must cover myself with blanket, reason? i scare ghost touching my skin, and mosquito as well
-if i sleep on a mattress i must always alert the mattress to attach the side of the mattress to the wall, i don't know why i have this feeling, but i must attach it to the side, that's why once my body moves, and the mattress moves a little, i must push the mattress attach to the wall again

these anxiousness made me can't even sleep, and i will keep thinking it over and over again

for your information, the anxiety not only happens when i'm off to bed, it happens all the time

this including i always check the tv, fan, water not switched off or closed, i recheck and check many times fear that those electrical devices will leave it on and cost a lot for electrical bill, every time my family especially my mom goes in to the room, after they leave the room, i tend to go in and check the fan, tv, tap water, my mom also noticed about since when i was young, around age 7-12 i couldn't remember when is it

and also i only use 1 spoon fork and plate in my house, this means that i don't share the same spoon with my family, i have my own spoons and forks, reason? i have a feeling like sharing spoons and forks are dirty, so last night when i was having my dinner, i found out that 1 of my spoon is twisted and crooked due to some reason, i force to use the spoon that used by all of my family members, i didn't enjoy the dinner and i keep worry about the spoon, even until today, it's like a feeling like there are worms in my body, i know those kitchen stuffs have been washed with soap, but i still worry something, something that is inexplicable,i just worry there are small bacteria in the shared spoon, also, i don't eat chicken, pork and seafood as well,not that im vegetarian , but i feel like these foods are dirty, i do eat beef, im a chinese

these are the sort of things i can think of right now, these anxiety really bugging me off i think i have some mental problem, should i see a psychiatrist? this happened long ago, but recently it worsens, and i just cant stop thinking all of these and recently some new things add in and keep bugging my mind, im thinking too much and there're so much things bugging me that makes me can't even sleep,some weird of insomnia not due to depression, but anxiety
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Consult a psychiatrist. You have a disorder of some sort. I'm not professional in this field but based on what you explained, you're insecure. I'm a bit similar on the part where I need to cover a bit of myself with the blanket even when I'm not cold. It just give me a sense of security. And I couldn't sleep with the door open. I just have to lock the door. This is formed by some sort of fear of some event.

I sometime have the same issue of not being able to sleep even though I'm tired. My heart beats fast, my brain is active though my body is obviously tired. I can understand the anxiety. They said workout more. Heck I weight lifts and sometime I can't fall asleep on my lifting day. So this is out of the equation.

I found my temporary remedy for this. Go to a doctor or pharmacy, get a cough syrup with some sleep inducing side effect. It's very effective. Muscle relaxant ain't gonna help (for me) but the cough syrup did the job.

Man you sure have a lot of issues. I think you have automysophobia (fear of being dirty?). Words from me can't help you now. You need professional help. And about the food part, would it help if you prepare your own meal? Buy fresh chicken breasts from the mall and prepare them yourself ?
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post May 14 2013, 09:05 AM

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post May 14 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ May 14 2013, 09:05 AM)
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The guy need help brother...why not give him encouraging words at least such as ''Get Well Soon Friend''.....smile.gif
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QUOTE(sojiroseta @ May 14 2013, 11:12 AM)
The guy need help brother...why not give him encouraging words at least such as ''Get Well Soon Friend''.....smile.gif
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I think you should do what the guy above saying but getting a psychiatrist to help you....You're might not be in worse condition as the circumstances suggest but you definitely need to act about the condition that you have there...All the best my friend...smile.gif
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 05:58 AM)
i cant sleep during night and i always get my sleep in the afternoon, and even that i still didn't sleep continuously for hours, i sleep for like 1hour then wake up again, then take another sleep for another 1 hour and repeat again, i have this habit since i were young, i once told my parents but what they said is i used to sleep in the afternoon, hence, i cant sleep in the night, but this is not true at all, sometimes i can sleep in the night but sometimes i cant, if i used to sleep in the afternoon, that will be like a habit for me to sleep during the day, work during the night, but the problem im having now is, i MUST sleep during the afternoon, and sometimes i can or i cant sleep during the night --> ur circadian rhythm is probably messed up. that's why u cant sleep at night, and have to sleep in the afternoon. it's just a matter of adjusting yourself.

the reason i cant sleep at night is also weird
here are the list-
-i must go to the toilet to pee even though i don't feel like peeing, i have a weird feeling like i scare the feeling of going to pee will disturb me when im resting.therefore, before i fall asleep, i go to the toilet for like 4-5 times
-i must cover myself with blanket even though the weather is hot or the room is hot, it has nothing to do with the temperature, just that i must cover myself with blanket, reason? i scare ghost touching my skin, and mosquito as well
-if i sleep on a mattress i must always alert the mattress to attach the side of the mattress to the wall, i don't know why i have this feeling, but i must attach it to the side, that's why once my body moves, and the mattress moves a little, i must push the mattress attach to the wall again
--> all of these are symptoms of obsessive and compulsive behaviors. Whether or not you have OCD, that depends on how severe it is. a psychiatrist will need to diagnose that. you're gonna need therapy for that. i have mild form of OCD as well. sometimes you just have to say "fcuk it" to the things that bother u, cos in reality it really isnt important at all.

all of the things you mention below are symptoms of OCD

these anxiousness made me can't even sleep, and i will keep thinking it over and over again

for your information, the anxiety not only happens when i'm off to bed, it happens all the time

this including i always check the tv, fan, water not switched off or closed, i recheck and check many times fear that those electrical devices will leave it on and cost a lot for electrical bill, every time my family especially my mom goes in to the room, after they leave the room, i tend to go in and check the fan, tv, tap water, my mom also noticed about since when i was young, around age 7-12 i couldn't remember when is it

and also i only use 1 spoon fork and plate in my house, this means that i don't share the same spoon with my family, i have my own spoons and forks, reason? i have a feeling like sharing spoons and forks are dirty, so last night when i was having my dinner, i found out that my spoon is twisted and crooked due to some reason, i force to use the spoon that used by all of my family members, i didn't enjoy the dinner and i keep worry about the spoon, even until today, it's like a feeling like there are worms in my body, i know those kitchen stuffs have been washed with soap, but i still worry something, something that is inexplicable,i just worry there are small bacteria in the shared spoon, also, i don't eat chicken, pork and seafood as well,not that im vegetarian , but i feel like these foods are dirty, i do eat beef, im a chinese

these are the sort of things i can think of right now, these anxiety really bugging me off i think i have some mental problem, should i see a psychiatrist? this happened long ago, but recently it worsens, and i just cant stop thinking all of these and recently some new things add in and keep bugging my mind, im thinking too much and there're so much things bugging me that makes me can't even sleep,some weird of insomnia not due to depression, but anxiety
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and try to log out of kopitiam more often. i know it's fun and stuff, but it messes up ur body sleep cycle when u stay online too late too often.
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post May 14 2013, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 08:58 AM)
Consult a psychiatrist. You have a disorder of some sort. I'm not professional in this field but based on what you explained, you're insecure. I'm a bit similar on the part where I need to cover a bit of myself with the blanket even when I'm not cold. It just give me a sense of security. And I couldn't sleep with the door open. I just have to lock the door. This is formed by some sort of fear of some event.

I sometime have the same issue of not being able to sleep even though I'm tired. My heart beats fast, my brain is active though my body is obviously tired. I can understand the anxiety. They said workout more. Heck I weight lifts and sometime I can't fall asleep on my lifting day. So this is out of the equation.

I found my temporary remedy for this. Go to a doctor or pharmacy, get a cough syrup with some sleep inducing side effect. It's very effective. Muscle relaxant ain't gonna help (for me) but the cough syrup did the job.

Man you sure have a lot of issues. I think you have automysophobia (fear of being dirty?). Words from me can't help you now. You need professional help. And about the food part, would it help if you prepare your own meal? Buy fresh chicken breasts from the mall and prepare them yourself ?
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i don't even touch raw meats, the last time i ate a chicken is few years ago when i was trying out the KFC famous bowl recipe, and that i also didn't finish the foods, even somebody sleep with me, i still tend to have the same worries like with blanket cover, the ghost thingy, the mattress thingy, but the funny thing is during the afternoon, it doesn't bug me that much

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post May 14 2013, 01:18 PM

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i sleep at 11-12 o'clock normally, normally i take 1 hour to fall asleep, whenever i got up in the middle of the night, that's it, i wont fall asleep until my father wakes up at 6am

i just googled the ocd thingy, from what it written in wiki, i have a lot of similar symptoms mentioned in wiki, i don't wash hand oftenly but i whenever go to an elevator, i never even once use my hand to press the button, i use keys, i also walk in patern sometimes, when there are tiles where blind people walk, the yellow tiles on the street, i always walk along with the yellow tiles

is it possible to avoid that without a psychiatrist? i really don't feel like seeing one unless i have no choice, as they don't really affect much of my life, just sometimes i can't sleep because of it

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
i sleep at 11-12 o'clock normally, normally i take 1 hour to fall asleep, whenever i got up in the middle of the night, that's it, i wont fall asleep until my father wakes up at 6am

i just googled the ocd thingy, from what it written in wiki, i have a lot of similar symptoms mentioned in wiki, i don't wash hand oftenly but i whenever go to an elevator, i never even once use my hand to press the button, i use keys, i also walk in patern sometimes, when there are tiles where blind people walk, the yellow tiles on the street, i always walk along with the yellow tiles

is it possible to avoid that without  a psychiatrist? i really don't feel like seeing one unless i have no choice, as they don't really affect much of my life, just sometimes i can't sleep because of it
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of course. some people can overcome it without seeing a psychiatrist. and bear in mind that it cant be completely resolved 100%, unless u're really dedicated to it, but it can be reduced. try slowly and gradually. there's no need to rush.

things that dont bother u much or doesnt cause u problem or difficulty, it's ok. like the pressing elevator with keys thing, that's pretty normal, doesnt harm anyone, doesnt make ur life difficult, so u can continue it if u like.

but things like moving ur bed against the wall, that's pretty bothersome aint it? i aint a psychotherapist or psychiatrist, so i cant help much. but there are ways to overcome these obsessions and compulsions. and every people have different way, so u gotta try many ways to find one that suit urself. some can resolve gradually, some can just stop it altogether.
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post May 14 2013, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 01:09 PM)
i don't even touch raw meats, the last time i ate a chicken is  few years ago when i was trying out the KFC famous bowl recipe, and that i also didn't finish the foods, even somebody sleep with me, i still tend to have the same worries like with blanket cover, the ghost thingy, the mattress thingy, but the funny thing is during the afternoon, it doesn't bug me that much
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The problem is all in your head. External help can only get you so far. It all depends on how you deal with it to be honest. I recommend you go socialize with your friends more. (assuming that you haven't)

The sleep disorder thinggy for sure it's caused by some past event. How old are you and do you watch horror movies a lot ?
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
i sleep at 11-12 o'clock normally, normally i take 1 hour to fall asleep, whenever i got up in the middle of the night, that's it, i wont fall asleep until my father wakes up at 6am

i just googled the ocd thingy, from what it written in wiki, i have a lot of similar symptoms mentioned in wiki, i don't wash hand oftenly but i whenever go to an elevator, i never even once use my hand to press the button, i use keys, i also walk in patern sometimes, when there are tiles where blind people walk, the yellow tiles on the street, i always walk along with the yellow tiles

is it possible to avoid that without  a psychiatrist? i really don't feel like seeing one unless i have no choice, as they don't really affect much of my life, just sometimes i can't sleep because of it
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Sorry to add another fear, but by covering yourself with blanket does not avoid the ghost haha. Heard of 鬼压身(sleep paralysis)? With or without blanket.

I share the same experience with u. I do sometimes need to walk on the yellow dotted tiles for the blind (well that's also because it's less slippery to walk on it). Regarding pressing the button on the lift, I also share the same thought, it's freaking dirty filled with bacteria. Get a hand sanitizer or dettol wipes. Using your keys wont help coz the bacteria will stick to your key, and u will hold them, put into your pocket, use it to start your car or unlock your door, the germs are spreading (ok sorry did i make it worse? just being realistic)

Try to sleep at the same time every night (constant timing), dont do anything that uses a lot of brain power before bedtime (watching action movies, solving some maths question, etc etc). Dont do this, Monday go to bed at 2am, Tues 10pm, Wed 1.30am, Thurs 11pm and u know the drill.

If you cant fall asleep or cant sleep back after u wake up in the middle of the night, try doing this - GET OUT OF YOUR BED, do something. Read a relaxing book, listen to some relaxing music, walk around the house, clean your room, change your bed sheet, just dont stay, toss and turn in your bed. Because it will make u even more frustrated and hopelessly sleepless. Do anything till it makes you tired droopy eyes.

U just gotta take things easy. Ure over worried. U need to occupy your mind with something else. Something more important, something more big, instead of those trivial issues. And yes u sound like u have OCD.

Honestly I dont think seeing a psychiatrist really helps. Not to mention the medication is bad for u in the long term and they cost a bomb (unless u go to gov hospital). It's all in the mind. Even with medication it's not guaranteed u can fall asleep.

But I dont discourage u from seeing one. At least by seeing a professional might help u to kick start managing your fears, anxieties, and worries.
Hope to hear some good news from u in the long run.

On a totally random thought, are u only eating beef coz cows only eat grass so they are not dirty?

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 07:58 AM)
I found my temporary remedy for this. Go to a doctor or pharmacy, get a cough syrup with some sleep inducing side effect. It's very effective. Muscle relaxant ain't gonna help (for me) but the cough syrup did the job.
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can take cough syrup just like that? even though got no cough?
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QUOTE(alice123 @ May 15 2013, 03:14 AM)
can take cough syrup just like that? even though got no cough?
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temporary solution, but not overdosing.. so it's okay
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QUOTE(OrangCacat @ May 14 2013, 01:18 PM)
i sleep at 11-12 o'clock normally, normally i take 1 hour to fall asleep, whenever i got up in the middle of the night, that's it, i wont fall asleep until my father wakes up at 6am

i just googled the ocd thingy, from what it written in wiki, i have a lot of similar symptoms mentioned in wiki, i don't wash hand oftenly but i whenever go to an elevator, i never even once use my hand to press the button, i use keys, i also walk in patern sometimes, when there are tiles where blind people walk, the yellow tiles on the street, i always walk along with the yellow tiles

is it possible to avoid that without  a psychiatrist? i really don't feel like seeing one unless i have no choice, as they don't really affect much of my life, just sometimes i can't sleep because of it
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It's better to seek appropriate treatment as soon as possible.
It could become serious problem.
Some people's symptoms can become increasingly worse when they are stressed or depressed.
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Definitely sounds a bit like OCD and an anxiety disorder. Consult your physician and maybe get on psychotherapy. Your doctor may prescribe you some medication to go along as well like anti-depressants which can help with your anxiety and OCD.

Meanwhile you should practise good sleep hygiene to help get yourself to sleep:
- No rigourous activity at all at night
- Try not to take naps at all
- Don't use your bed or bedroom for anything other than sleep (or sex if you have a partner)
- No food after dinner especially high calorie foods or stimulants (coffee)
- Rigourous exercising in the day can help you destress and also help you sleep better at night
- If you can't sleep at night, or wake up and can't get back to sleep, get out of your bed and do something else, like reading a boring book. Don't lie in bed trying to go to sleep - it's torture and won't work

If your sleep troubles continue you might wanna temporarily try sedating anti-histamines (not cough syrup please) which are specifically meant to aid in sleep.
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wah...can't believe got someone so like me shocking.gif

1. the sleep disorder thing...I used to sleep like my brain still working...

2. the blanket thing...this one cannot do anything. No harm anyway.

3. the mattress thing...this is because you feel uncomfortable if your feet touch the floor rite? I can't really sit on plain floor...I will keep changing positions (this one cannot help also).

4. The checking around the house thing probably is the result of...cannot sleep, why not check thing. Started like that, then become habit until forget when it started become like this. At my times, tv doesn't aired 24hours. Nothing to do ma...

Nothing serious la...you think too much, cause stress some more. No. 1, 3, 4 ---> After can sleep well, all settled. Do you drink coffee? Change your coffee. This coffee really helps me. They have different effect on different ppl. I know other ppl that are also stress and cannot sleep, but after drinking this can sleep till morning thumbup.gif pm me if you're interested.

Was like that but you are more serious... cool2.gif

As for the fork and spoon, that's because you're a clean freak. Me at most after wash, ok. Now extend to family member only cans share food and straw. Besides that, still a no-no for me.

This needs time. Try prepare your own food. You clean them yourself, the you know they are clean enuf nod.gif

 

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