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 Beware of Lelong Seller - leonjunyin, How to protect your consumer rights

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post May 14 2013, 04:06 PM

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post May 14 2013, 04:08 PM

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sharp56,
do you really got connection custom department? mind to share ur connection, i got barang need help?
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post May 14 2013, 04:53 PM

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so can either of u provide a snapshot for us? ah leongjunyin / sharp56? not wanting any popcorn but oni wanna know the truth.
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post May 14 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(sharp56 @ May 14 2013, 03:18 PM)
Guys, you know what? This leonjunyin sent me his latest sms last night at 12.17am (I was asleep) threatening me. He swore he would come from Selangor to Kulim (the product dispatch address; not my residence address as I am at the office during dispatch hours) to find me if I DO NOT REMOVE MY POSTINGS! It would be a great injustice if he would harm someone else at that address instead of me. Anyway, I will be lodging a police report with a copy of his sms and phone no.

To leonjunyin
I wonder you are even mature in doing business, mostly shooting on your own foot, rude with your customers and taking things personal. In business you can't please all the buyers all the time. There will be good and bad reviews. If bad reviews make the wrong right and improve on the customers service and move on. If you feel that I have wronged you, by all means come to this thread and argue out your points. Convince the internet community that you are right. Not by causing harm whenever someone criticizes you or things not going your way! You a a graduate of UTAR and keen internet user. Don't your education teaches you in a forum you argue out your case and not re-sought to violence?

Why do you release snippets of our sms conversation but not the whole conversation giving the excuse that you don't know how but you already know how to do part of it? Certainly I have not used the f...f...f... words as it is beyond my dignity to use such words. Release the whole conversation to prove that I have used the f...f..f... words and that I have been rude to you so that the internet community can judge for themselves.

I have been polite with you until you, without provocation, say that I'm not a man of success because I chase you like that or cannot wait for your reply. I have already waited two weeks for your product and called/sms you many times. Put yourself into my shoes. And how would you know I am a man of success or not?

Yes, I may have called you a cheat but that was only when you said you won't refund the money on the pretext that I have been rude to you. But that is not justified? How else to describe a person who is reluctant to refund? In a buy/sell situation and in law, either you send the goods or refund the money. There's no two way about it. You can't withhold refund just someone is rude or require an apology as a condition/prerequisite for refund. If you had claimed you had wanted to refund me right from the start, why even at the stage of the mediation by Lelong, the mediator had to ask you " Would holding the buyer's payment fair for you?" and resought to restricting your account before you relented to refund me. If you had been sincere in refunding the money without apology, it need not have progressed to such stage. That's why somebody asked whether you are mature enough to conduct a business.

If I were a man of violence or vengeance I would have dispatched some goons to your shop outlet in Cheras to confront you. But that is not right over a small matter. It's just not worth the trouble to get my hands and dignity stained over a petty quarrel. I have got my refund and that's the end for me. I do not want to quarrel with you like a little kid and I would like to move on. You should too!

Please understand I write this advice of consumers protection is to educate the whole internet community when their consumers' rights are trampled upon by unscrupulous sellers at large (not you). I would not remove my postings as it might be useful for others in the internet community. If it would make you happy, I will remove the mention of your name where ever I can in the first page. But I can't remove those which have been quoted by other people.

Please reflect on this and I wish you all the best for your business.
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really ? I mean really ? if tat the case y don u just lodge the police report instead of keep barking at here ?And stop ur bullshit until u show us the prove !!! U r misleading ppl, stop pretending u r some kind of guy to bring in justice as customer !!! u sound like a typical youngster nowadays, who just know how to complain~

but then again, maybe there are misunderstand between the 2 of u, I know rite, ppl usually will be rude if they get angry or frustrated~
On the other hand, I think it is not fair to post lies and bring defamation to the seller, as the seller will always be the 1 who lose becoz no one know who u r and the seller cannot change his name in lelong, so the damage will be done by any ways it mean.

Btw, ur statements are so fake to be true.
Lastly heed my word, 1 should not simply faking the truth and let ppl discovered
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post May 14 2013, 09:59 PM

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post May 14 2013, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ May 14 2013, 04:06 PM)
leonjunyin vs sharp56
Who to believe in this case? someone pls create a poll for this.
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simi poll? don't be ridicurous la!
leonjunyin
post May 15 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ May 14 2013, 10:46 PM)
simi poll? don't be ridicurous la!
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TO sharp56 : 1 >>>>You did wrong until now also dont know to apologize ??? Apologize is easy , not so hard ... or you dont even realize that your behaviour or personality is very very bad

2>>> You should knew that we never did anything wrong , but you keep on give up misleading and untruth statement to damage us when we do nothing wrong or it .... We will soon show all the proof here , no need to worry

3>> you main purpose is obvious to everyone , When we did nothing wrong , but you keep threatening us , more and more ...





For all around here :

Yes , if we did wrong , we apologize , and will improve our service , but if someone purpose talk nonsense , giving bullshit , misleading and incorrect statement to hurt you , we should defend !! We did nothing wrong no need to worry about anything !! that is why we dare to stand out ... !

Yes , we agree Consumers right need to be protected , but how bout seller right ??? THose misleading , untruth statement , it is a right behaviour ??

and how bout human right ??

We own a shop , and we cheat on people and we never run away ??? really ???

dont be funny , you only see 1 or 2 comment bout us , how bout thousands of our customers ???

please think smart.

Both consumers and seller right need to be protected . thank
FIrst we are honest seller ...

When the time we updated wrong trace number ( suppose other buyer ) we direct Call to the buyer and inform

But he (sharp56) think we purposely do that to cheat ... ((Please la , we already immediately give a call when updated wrong , it is within 1-2 minute after updated)
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When the time he call us , we are busy , we reply call back in a moment .. but after 1 hours later ... he send those all bullshit , out of respect , hate and threatening words t us ....

After 1 hours later when we finished handle all the customers, we reply him , please be patience , it is only within 3 hours , we are busy at the moment , The item you paid cannot reach yet,

as the factory delay in second batch production , need to wait another around 10-15 may , the factory will release the stock ... ( , this is Jiayu G4 , everybody is waiting the stock out all the world , when you search at the internet , everywhere also have to wait ....) Whether to wait or refund to you first ....
OH MY GOD !!!! YOU KNEW HOW HE ANSWER US ????

HE never give us any answer , and direct f*** f*** f*** us , threaten us again again and again , mention do we knew who he is ???? he hace conection with the trade minister , and custom department , and he is going to make report , police report , to make sure our business fail ....
What ???? You guy can judge how this (Sharp56 ) Wong Lock Jum really like
who at
Taman Angsana like ( sorry to state out , but it need too as what he is doing was so wrong ) ...

You all to judge , when we while we going to full refund for he , he refuse to give any answer but shooting us , f***ing us , Threatening us again , again and again ,

and then purposely misleading other , give untruth statement to other ...

What did we do wrong ??? it is factory delay the stock , we cannot do anything too...

Who right who wrong... He Sharp56 is the one who cheating to you all ... We do business for 3 year , first time meet a person like this ...

We honest seller , going to refund , asked for refund , but he refused to answer , none trust on us , disrespecting us , threatening us, give mislead , untruth statement to damage us again and again ....

and Obvious , he is a cyber bully too, please beware ...

What kind of a person like this ??? hopeless
leonjunyin
post May 15 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(CL2 @ May 14 2013, 09:50 PM)
really ? I mean really ? if tat the case y don u just lodge the police report instead of keep barking at here ?And stop ur bullshit until u show us the prove !!! U r misleading ppl, stop pretending u r some kind of guy to bring in justice as customer !!! u sound like a typical youngster nowadays, who just know how to complain~

but then again, maybe there are misunderstand between the 2 of u, I know rite, ppl usually will be rude if they get angry or frustrated~
On the other hand, I think it is not fair to post lies and bring defamation to the seller, as the seller will always be the 1 who lose becoz no one know who u r and the seller cannot change his name in lelong, so the damage will be done by any ways it mean.

Btw, ur statements are so fake to be true. 
Lastly heed my word, 1 should not simply faking the truth and let ppl discovered
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Everyone >>>> This CL2 Guy is Sharp56 same person..... Why he purposely created 2 account , you know , we know , everyone know ...
leonjunyin
post May 15 2013, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(mamasos @ May 14 2013, 04:08 PM)
sharp56,
do you really got connection custom department? mind to share ur connection, i got barang need help?
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He is none , he purposely mention that to threatening us ... Nothing other ...thank
leonjunyin
post May 15 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(leonjunyin @ May 15 2013, 09:13 PM)
He is none , he purposely mention that to threatening us ... Nothing other ...thank
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TO sharp56 : 1 >>>>You did wrong until now also dont know to apologize ??? Apologize is easy , not so hard ... or you dont even realize that your behaviour or personality is very very bad

2>>> You should knew that we never did anything wrong , but you keep on give up misleading and untruth statement to damage us when we do nothing wrong or it .... We will soon show all the proof here , no need to worry

3>> you main purpose is obvious to everyone , When we did nothing wrong , but you keep threatening us , more and more ...





For all around here :

Yes , if we did wrong , we apologize , and will improve our service , but if someone purpose talk nonsense , giving bullshit , misleading and incorrect statement to hurt you , we should defend !! We did nothing wrong no need to worry about anything !! that is why we dare to stand out ... !

Yes , we agree Consumers right need to be protected , but how bout seller right ??? THose misleading , untruth statement , it is a right behaviour ??

and how bout human right ??

We own a shop , and we cheat on people and we never run away ??? really ???

dont be funny , you only see 1 or 2 comment bout us , how bout thousands of our customers ???

please think smart.

Both consumers and seller right need to be protected . thank
FIrst we are honest seller ...

When the time we updated wrong trace number ( suppose other buyer ) we direct Call to the buyer and inform

But he (sharp56) think we purposely do that to cheat ... ((Please la , we already immediately give a call when updated wrong , it is within 1-2 minute after updated)
2.

When the time he call us , we are busy , we reply call back in a moment .. but after 1 hours later ... he send those all bullshit , out of respect , hate and threatening words t us ....

After 1 hours later when we finished handle all the customers, we reply him , please be patience , it is only within 3 hours , we are busy at the moment , The item you paid cannot reach yet,

as the factory delay in second batch production , need to wait another around 10-15 may , the factory will release the stock ... ( , this is Jiayu G4 , everybody is waiting the stock out all the world , when you search at the internet , everywhere also have to wait ....) Whether to wait or refund to you first ....
OH MY GOD !!!! YOU KNEW HOW HE ANSWER US ????

HE never give us any answer , and direct f*** f*** f*** us , threaten us again again and again , mention do we knew who he is ???? he hace conection with the trade minister , and custom department , and he is going to make report , police report , to make sure our business fail ....
What ???? You guy can judge how this (Sharp56 ) Wong Lock Jum really like
who at
Taman Angsana like ( sorry to state out , but it need too as what he is doing was so wrong ) ...

You all to judge , when we while we going to full refund for he , he refuse to give any answer but shooting us , f***ing us , Threatening us again , again and again ,

and then purposely misleading other , give untruth statement to other ...

What did we do wrong ??? it is factory delay the stock , we cannot do anything too...

Who right who wrong... He Sharp56 is the one who cheating to you all ... We do business for 3 year , first time meet a person like this ...

We honest seller , going to refund , asked for refund , but he refused to answer , none trust on us , disrespecting us , threatening us, give mislead , untruth statement to damage us again and again ....

and Obvious , he is a cyber bully too, please beware ...

What kind of a person like this ??? hopeless
leonjunyin
post May 15 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(SnailWithFingers @ May 14 2013, 04:06 PM)
Instead of having popcorn, why don't have some cookies?! Or sushi and icecream  drool.gif
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Guys , This i not funny ..

This person purposely come out with misleading , untruth statement to damage us , which all is not real ...

If not , why dont he show proof to all of you ???

CL2 and Sharp56 is the same person .... cause we only sms to sharp56 to ask him to remove this all misleding , untruth statement ...

How dangerous this guy is , create many account for bad purposes..


You guy are smart , can think out of it...


anyway , thank for your interest


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post May 15 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ May 14 2013, 11:33 AM)
so on top of being rude, u're now being racist too?  shakehead.gif
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No la.... Just we are chinese , but other having a more good attitude and behviour tha our own kind ... just comment , no mean for any racist ....

If have any meaning , we strongly apologize ...

We , Malay , india , Chinese , kadazan , Dusun and so on , all same are malaysian

We all human are all same live at the earth , We should treat each other goods like family ... No like some other person ..

Thank ~

Sorry for my broken english
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ May 16 2013, 06:41 PM)
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QUOTE(H4XF4XTOR @ May 16 2013, 07:11 PM)
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Sharp56..you right..1st. Customer always right
in fact Sharp56..buy few item from us .. this person great biggrin.gif

2nd . the other seller is troublemaker.. takes 2 week to delivery item OMG ..
then refund afetr long arguements.. etc.. doh.gif rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by macpro2: Jun 16 2013, 07:50 PM
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bump.. this seller is my friend. He is damn good. Even I bought a China phone from him and he allow me to own him RM680 for two months. LOL
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QUOTE(macpro2 @ Jun 16 2013, 07:50 PM)
Sharp56..you right..1st. Customer always right
in fact Sharp56..buy few item from us ..  this person great biggrin.gif

2nd . the other seller is troublemaker.. takes 2 week to delivery item OMG ..
then refund afetr long arguements.. etc.. doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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To dear Melodyworld or macpro2 ...

What kind of seller are you ????????

All other can judge ...

a seller that keep on critilal on other , misleading , How good the seller be ????

DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNEW WHY STILL SO MANY BUYER BUY FROM US , BUT NOT YOU ??????

IT IS CUSTOMERS RECOMMEND CUSTOMERS .... REPEAT AND TRUST BETWEEN ..

SOMETIMES EVEN WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE , WE MAKE LOST MONEY TOO .. TO MAKE SURE CUSTOMERS SATISFY ... ) THAT IS WHY WE GIV 2 WEEK 1 TO 1 NEW EXCHANGE )

WE NEVER CHARGE ANY CUSTOMER FOR FIRMWARE UPDATE SERVICE DURING WARRANTY PERIOD , SCREEN PROTECTOR APPLY SERVICES..



IT IS THE FACT AND TRUTH THAT FROM THE PAST , THERE ARE TOO MANY COMPLAINING YOU,....( SEND DEFECTIVE PRODUCT TO CUSTOMER THOSE TRUST ON YOU !!)

NO WARRANTY , CANNOT FIND PERSON AFTER SALE , NO ANSWER CALL , COMSUFT SURF AND OUR CUSTOMERS ALL COMPLAIN ON MELODYWORLD / MACPRO 2

WE HAVE TOO MANY EXAMPLE IF YOU WANT , I WILL SHARE SOME WTH YOU ...

SELLER THAT CHEATED ON CUSTOMERS TO MENTION HAVE SHOP BUT ACTUALLLY DONT HAVE ....

IF YOU HAVE TIME TO FOCUS IN CRITICAL US .... WHY DONT YOU FOCUS AND PROVIDE BETTER CUSTOMERS SERIVCES ??

SELLERS THAT KEEP CRITICAL ON OTHER AND TELL PEOPLE HOW GOOD HOW GOOD HE OR SHE .... IT IS REALLY A BIG JOKE !!!

SHARP56 ALREADY APOLOGIZE TO US .....AND PLEASE MIND YOU OWN BUSINESS ...





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QUOTE(Sixter @ Jun 17 2013, 09:02 PM)
bump.. this seller is my friend. He is damn good. Even I bought a China phone from him and he allow me to own him RM680 for two months. LOL
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QUOTE(macpro2 @ Jun 16 2013, 07:50 PM)
Sharp56..you right..1st. Customer always right
in fact Sharp56..buy few item from us ..  this person great biggrin.gif

2nd . the other seller is troublemaker.. takes 2 week to delivery item OMG ..
then refund afetr long arguements.. etc.. doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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SELLER THAT DONT EVEN WILLING TO PAY ANY EXTRA MONEY TO RENT OR OWN A SHOP OR OFFICE ...BUT CHEAT ON CONSUMER MENTION HAVE SHOP ...

STILL WANT TO SAY ANY WARRANTY ??? AS YOU ( MELODYWORLD OR MARPRO ) NOT WILLING TO PAY RESPONSIBLE TO CUSTOMER TO FIND YOU FOR ANY WARRANTY MATTER ..

STILL WANNA MENTION ANYTHING ????

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO ,, AND WHAT YOU GET , THANK


WHO GOOD WHO BAD , PEOPLE WILL HAVE experience , and will knew at last.


[SIZE=7] what you do , what you done ... people have eye and brain .. to Judge ...

What kind person , what kind of seller it is ??

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