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 What is the powerbank?, Updated with Xiaomi Powerbank

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post May 30 2013, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ May 30 2013, 04:26 AM)
They rather add more cells than to purchase the 3400mAh cells. For example the YB-655 rated at 15600mAh means each cell is 2600mAh, but if you use 5x3400mAh you can achieve a higher capacity plus a smaller power bank but it's just not economical for them I guess.

Or either could you pass me a few pieces of your resistor and maybe your DMM so I could test it myself and post the results here as well? Your DMM comes with logging features?

And if you're talking about people who use unprotected cells, for eciggs once the battery reach a certain voltage the flavour and smoke amount will be different so that's a sign that the capacity is running low. Similar for a flashlight, once the battery reaches a certain voltage the light output will lower down showing the battery's almost up. Usually when this happens the battery should still be above 3.0v but unless the user is completely ignorant then yes he can run the battery down way past 2.7v and maybe even down to zero. By then the battery had been permanently damaged and had to be disposed of. That's why users who handle unprotected li-ion cells should be educated on it's characteristics and charging/discharging methods.
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can't also. my fyp still need use these tools.
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post May 30 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(UnifiAgent @ May 30 2013, 08:22 AM)
If anyone of you are looking for high quality power bank, feel free to visit my thread. Satisfaction guaranteed. Check out the feedback about it.
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don't have price ? how you determine it is high quality powerbank ?
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post May 30 2013, 08:30 PM

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hello,do u noe yoobao 13000mah..usually can charge s3 for how many times?

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post May 31 2013, 09:05 AM

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i opened up my fake yoobao 11200mah powerbank.
inside only got 4x2200mah 3.7v batteries. rclxub.gif


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post May 31 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ May 31 2013, 09:05 AM)
i opened up my fake yoobao 11200mah powerbank.
inside only got 4x2200mah 3.7v batteries.  rclxub.gif
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how do you know it is 2200mAh?
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post May 31 2013, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(x-treme @ May 31 2013, 09:08 AM)
how do you know it is 2200mAh?
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post May 31 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(nghj @ May 31 2013, 09:21 AM)
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i see. may be the actual capacity will be lower than that. hmm.gif
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post Jun 1 2013, 05:58 AM

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i also opened my original Yoobao before, found 4x 2500mAh cells instead sweat.gif

weird thing is it's confirmed an original.
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post Jun 1 2013, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(x-treme @ May 31 2013, 10:24 AM)
i see. may be the actual capacity will be lower than that.  hmm.gif
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ya, maybe its low quality cell. i dont 'feel' that it lasts as long as it should.
8800mah@3.7v should be around 6512@5v. after 87% eff, its around 5665.
should be able to fully charge my phone (2100mah) around 2.7 times.
i only use to charge phone at night with airplane mode on, i can only use for 2 nights. after that, the powerbank is flat.

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post Jun 1 2013, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jun 1 2013, 05:58 AM)
i also opened my original Yoobao before, found 4x 2500mAh cells instead sweat.gif

weird thing is it's confirmed an original.
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swapped with fake unit?
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post Jun 1 2013, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jun 1 2013, 06:06 PM)
ya, maybe its low quality cell. i dont 'feel' that it lasts as long as it should.
8800mah@3.7v should be around 6512@5v. after 87% eff, its around 5665.
should be able to fully charge my phone (2100mah) around 2.7 times.
i only use to charge phone at night with airplane mode on, i can only use for 2 nights. after that, the powerbank is flat.
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may be you can try buy the 18650 cell on your own and replace it.
See whether there is improvement or not. icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(x-treme @ Jun 1 2013, 08:28 PM)
swapped with fake unit?
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nope it was an ori. confirmed original from the SN and also matches all 'original' markings found online
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post Jun 2 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jun 2 2013, 03:38 AM)
nope it was an ori. confirmed original from the SN and also matches all 'original' markings found online
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oh i see. may be the powerbank produced in different batch will use different type of cell. so only some powerbank have better quality. We can't see what cell used inside, so it just depend how lucky you are. thumbup.gif
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How to prevent the powerbank from frying your phone motherboard?

Do we need to check the output capacity of the power bank?

I had bad experience with the Yoobao 11200 mAh powerbank. I have to send my Samsung Galaxy Note for replacement of motherboard after charging overnight with it and later when I had the same experience with Nokia Lumia 900.

The Yoobao was original cost I had send it for repair earlier at the serveice center in Jalan Segambut.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
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post Jun 2 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(xyber9 @ Jun 2 2013, 10:50 AM)
How to prevent the powerbank from frying your phone motherboard?

Do we need to check the output capacity of the power bank?

I had bad experience with the Yoobao 11200 mAh powerbank.  I have to send my Samsung Galaxy Note for replacement of motherboard after charging overnight  with it and later when I had the same experience with Nokia Lumia 900.

The Yoobao was original cost I had send it for repair earlier at the serveice center in Jalan Segambut.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
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are you sure with only charging with powerbank will fry your phone motherboard? how about normal ac charger?

there is a built in circuit to limit the current on phone motherboard. i had tried using 5V 3A charger to change my phone. when i measure, it only accept the current upto 1.1-1.2A and not 3A.

there are also built in circuit for powerbank itself, that's why it will have 2 output : 1A and 2.1A.
the rating is showing the max current that it allow, not must be exactly 1A.

so far i tried my times for overnight charging no problem on my phone. i like the feature that it will auto cut off when my phone is fully charged.

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QUOTE(x-treme @ Jun 2 2013, 12:17 PM)
are you sure with only charging with powerbank will fry your phone motherboard? how about normal ac charger?

there is a built in circuit to limit the current on phone motherboard. i had tried using 5V 3A charger to change my phone. when i measure, it only accept the current upto 1.1-1.2A and not 3A.

there are also built in circuit for powerbank itself, that's why it will have 2 output : 1A and 2.1A.
the rating is showing the max current that it allow, not must be exactly 1A.

so far i tried my times for overnight charging no problem on my phone. i like the feature that it will auto cut off when my phone is fully charged.
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do yoobao have auto cut off feature?
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:06 PM

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Based on my estimation, PN-912 16800mAh will have 6 drycell?
1 cell=2800mAh
Am I right?
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Prince H @ Jun 2 2013, 12:56 PM)
do yoobao have auto cut off feature?
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sorry i don't know about that. you may ask the yoobao seller or users.
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Jun 2 2013, 01:06 PM)
Based on my estimation, PN-912 16800mAh will have 6 drycell?
1 cell=2800mAh
Am I right?
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yes, you are right. rclxms.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(x-treme @ Jun 2 2013, 11:17 AM)
are you sure with only charging with powerbank will fry your phone motherboard? how about normal ac charger?

there is a built in circuit to limit the current on phone motherboard. i had tried using 5V 3A charger to change my phone. when i measure, it only accept the current upto 1.1-1.2A and not 3A.

there are also built in circuit for powerbank itself, that's why it will have 2 output : 1A and 2.1A.
the rating is showing the max current that it allow, not must be exactly 1A.

so far i tried my times for overnight charging no problem on my phone. i like the feature that it will auto cut off when my phone is fully charged.
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There is no problem with normal AC charger. So I can use any type of power bank irrespective of the higher output rating of the mA compare to the smartphone input charging capacity.

Maybe I have a faulty Yoobao powerbank? How do I test using multimeter?

I do not dare to use another phone to charge again after it fried both my Samsung Galaxy Note and Nokia Lumia 900, fortunately both of them still under warranty. After charging both my phone went dead. Cannot on it back using what ever method.

So how do we test the power bank device that it is working properly?

How do we determine if the device has auto cut off when the batter charging is fully completed?

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