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cyh03176
post Sep 25 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Sep 25 2013, 10:32 AM)
Can you practice in the UK after your BPTC ? Have you considered doing your Solicitor's course over in the UK instead ? Thanks.
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Nope. Permanent residence is a requirement now.

QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 25 2013, 11:14 AM)
Not really?
If he gets a training contract or a job there, I think no issues.

The issue is, it's hard to get job there now.
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True. It is HARD to find pupillage.

QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 25 2013, 01:37 PM)
I don't get it. Why are you upset? You want to practice in Singapore or Hong Kong? What do you want us to enlighten you on?
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I just don't know if taking BPTC is the right choice. I think I will practice in Malaysia though.
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post Sep 25 2013, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Sep 25 2013, 02:42 PM)
Nope. Permanent residence is a requirement now.
True. It is HARD to find pupillage.
I just don't know if taking BPTC is the right choice. I think I will practice in Malaysia though.
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I think you need a Tier 1 visa, working and long term stay rather than PR hmm.gif

It's quite hard to find pupillage nowadays, UK just don't want more lawyers for the time being.

Well, consider this your "CLP" then. Come back M'sia can work still what.... laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2013, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Sep 25 2013, 02:42 PM)
Nope. Permanent residence is a requirement now.
True. It is HARD to find pupillage.
I just don't know if taking BPTC is the right choice. I think I will practice in Malaysia though.
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If you intend to practice, then doing the bptc is more beneficial than the CLP, both in terms of skills development and general perception. Plus, a couple of Inns have a pretty strong local alumni, which can be beneficial.
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post Sep 25 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Sep 25 2013, 02:49 PM)
I think you need a Tier 1 visa, working and long term stay rather than PR hmm.gif

It's quite hard to find pupillage nowadays, UK just don't want more lawyers for the time being.

Well, consider this your "CLP" then. Come back M'sia can work still what....  laugh.gif
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Yea, no hope. Hope Malaysia has job opportunity.

QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 25 2013, 07:08 PM)
If you intend to practice, then doing the bptc is more beneficial than the CLP, both in terms of skills development and general perception. Plus, a couple of Inns have a pretty strong local alumni, which can be beneficial.
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Hope so
BravoZeroTwo
post Sep 26 2013, 10:13 AM

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Thanks guys for the infor asked.
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post Sep 26 2013, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Sep 25 2013, 09:29 PM)
Yea, no hope. Hope Malaysia has job opportunity.
Hope so
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Hope so? What are your concerns really? Did you research before you enrolled for the course? Are you sure you want to try out practice? Did you do internships at law firms?
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post Sep 27 2013, 01:43 AM

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Hi. I am currently a Year 2 law student. Doing UKT.

I have 3 core subjects which are Tort, Land and Evidence and I have to choose between Family and Company as my elective subject.

I would like to seek advice in choosing whether to do Company or Family law. What are the pros and cons of these both subjects, if any. and which will be more useful in the future. And also what are your opinions on these two subjects?
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post Sep 27 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Sep 27 2013, 01:43 AM)
Hi. I am currently a Year 2 law student. Doing UKT.

I have 3 core subjects which are Tort, Land and Evidence and I have to choose between Family and Company as my elective subject.

I would like to seek advice in choosing whether to do Company or Family law. What are the pros and cons of these both subjects, if any. and which will be more useful in the future. And also what are your opinions on these two subjects?
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Personally, I find Company law more interesting to family.

Maybe because I had a similar subject while doing another program, it is quite a breeze for me.

And company law does help you understand structures and certain limitations of the companies.

I would say it's a good thing to have, if you are interested.
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post Sep 27 2013, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 26 2013, 01:52 PM)
Hope so? What are your concerns really? Did you research before you enrolled for the course? Are you sure you want to try out practice? Did you do internships at law firms?
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what's my concern? my concern is that i am able to find a job and live a life. that's all.

i did not do any internships though.
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post Sep 30 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(cyh03176 @ Sep 27 2013, 07:18 PM)
what's my concern? my concern is that i am able to find a job and live a life. that's all.

i did not do any internships though.
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Finding a job in the legal profession is not difficult. Turnover is pretty high.

Just get good grades and your options would be potentially wider.
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post Oct 1 2013, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Sep 30 2013, 01:35 PM)
Finding a job in the legal profession is not difficult. Turnover is pretty high.

Just get good grades and your options would be potentially wider.
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I believe I got a good honour for my degree, but well, not the best. I am interested in legal field. I can't imagine myself doing anything else. So, hopefully what you said is true. cry.gif
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HI everybody, i'm currently a 2nd year student of UKT transfer , what concern me now are

1) which elective subjects to choose between company and family law, do you guys have any idea or opinion about these 2 subjects? What are the job prospect differences for the subjects?

2)Which subjects do students normally choose during final year?

Any comment would be appreciated. Thx smile.gif
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post Oct 1 2013, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(zone3310 @ Oct 1 2013, 05:22 PM)
HI everybody, i'm currently a 2nd year student of UKT transfer , what concern me now are

1) which elective subjects to choose between company and family law, do you guys have any idea or opinion about these 2 subjects? What are the job prospect differences for the subjects?

2)Which subjects do students normally choose during final year? 

Any comment would be appreciated. Thx  smile.gif
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similar question to previous.

they are so different in terms of content. "job prospect differences"? it doesn't really matter what subjects you read during your LLB...it does more to serve you in determining which areas you think you might be interested in.

I chose juris, company, succession and EU for my third year in the external UOL LLB.
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post Oct 2 2013, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 1 2013, 09:52 PM)
similar question to previous.

they are so different in terms of content. "job prospect differences"? it doesn't really matter what subjects you read during your LLB...it does more to serve you in determining which areas you think you might be interested in.

I chose juris, company, succession and EU for my third year in the external UOL LLB.
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Why did you take EU ? Does it have any relevance to our M'sian laws ? Thanks.
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post Oct 2 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 2 2013, 08:29 AM)
Why did you take EU ? Does it have any relevance to our M'sian laws ? Thanks.
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no relevance to local law. wanted option to do bvc, but decided against it.
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post Oct 3 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:48 AM)
no relevance to local law. wanted option to do bvc, but decided against it.
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What is BVC ? Why did you change your mind thereafter ? Thanks.
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 2 2013, 10:48 AM)
no relevance to local law. wanted option to do bvc, but decided against it.
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What is BVC ? Why did you change your mind thereafter ? Thanks.
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post Oct 3 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 3 2013, 08:57 AM)
What is BVC ? Why did you change your mind thereafter ? Thanks.
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bvc = called bptc at present.

i was 80% certain I wanted to do corporate work, so didn't want to spend an extra rm80 to 100k on something I don't need. Took CLP instead. But just did it, in case I changed my mind throughout the year. options are important at times.
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post Oct 3 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 3 2013, 01:30 PM)
bvc = called bptc at present.

i was 80% certain I wanted to do corporate work, so didn't want to spend an extra rm80 to 100k on something I don't need. Took CLP instead. But just did it, in case I changed my mind throughout the year. options are important at times.
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Meaning you just sat for BPTC after your passing of CLP ? Thanks.
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post Oct 3 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(alsree786 @ Oct 3 2013, 12:30 PM)
bvc = called bptc at present.

i was 80% certain I wanted to do corporate work, so didn't want to spend an extra rm80 to 100k on something I don't need. Took CLP instead. But just did it, in case I changed my mind throughout the year. options are important at times.
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err, no, meant did eu law in case i change my mind. obviously, if money is not an issue, i would still recommend doing bptc over clp, even if you intend to do corporate. i forgot 80% of the things i learnt in clp within a few weeks from the exam.

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