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Prospective Law Students Gateway V2, A basic guide to become a lawyer
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sengyik90
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Aug 23 2013, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(ebony_my @ Aug 23 2013, 05:04 PM) Can someone enlighten me on the difference between CLP and the UK Bar? Will it be a total waste to practice in malaysia after being admitted to the Bar? And also please highlight the different route between these two. Thanks  It is not a waste if you ask me. The experience cannot be measured in monetary terms. Of course it cost a lot more. Judging at the economic downturn now, it is rather difficult or close to impossible to secure a job there, so you will most likely come back after your BPTC. Higher salary? No. Better prospect? Maybe. Ultimately your attitude determines your altitude. If it is affordable(120-150k), then go for the experience. It is more practical, but bear in mind that you will have to learn all the Malaysia law again when you are back.
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ebony_my
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Aug 23 2013, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(sengyik90 @ Aug 23 2013, 05:42 PM) It is not a waste if you ask me. The experience cannot be measured in monetary terms. Of course it cost a lot more. Judging at the economic downturn now, it is rather difficult or close to impossible to secure a job there, so you will most likely come back after your BPTC. Higher salary? No. Better prospect? Maybe. Ultimately your attitude determines your altitude. If it is affordable(120-150k), then go for the experience. It is more practical, but bear in mind that you will have to learn all the Malaysia law again when you are back. How many subjects are there altogether for CLP and the duration? Would it be advisable to work whilst studying for CLP?
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kael90
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Aug 23 2013, 07:44 PM
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Hi guys, I'm planning to take up part time UOL LLB as I have a full time job currently. I'm wondering if it would be better for me to do self study or enroll into one of the institution? Any advice from senior out there?
This post has been edited by kael90: Aug 23 2013, 07:45 PM
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sengyik90
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Aug 23 2013, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(ebony_my @ Aug 23 2013, 05:58 PM) How many subjects are there altogether for CLP and the duration? Would it be advisable to work whilst studying for CLP? 9 or 10. Not so sure. You can always check with those institutions. It really depends on your own capabilities. If you can cope then it's fine. It can be done.
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earlgrey77
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Aug 23 2013, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(ebony_my @ Aug 23 2013, 05:58 PM) How many subjects are there altogether for CLP and the duration? Would it be advisable to work whilst studying for CLP? I am going to work and study at the same time .. but only till CNY .. CLP is bulky so it is not really advisable to work and study at the same time .yes i am taking risk . which institution are you from ?
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earlgrey77
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Aug 23 2013, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(kael90 @ Aug 23 2013, 07:44 PM) Hi guys, I'm planning to take up part time UOL LLB as I have a full time job currently. I'm wondering if it would be better for me to do self study or enroll into one of the institution? Any advice from senior out there? i guess you need assistance as UOL is not an easy paper .i am not an UOL student , but i sort of know how tough is their paper .
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sengyik90
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Aug 24 2013, 12:19 AM
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Agree with earlgrey. I just graduated from UOL. I must say your own efforts play the most vital role but guidance from lecturers are very cardinal too.
There are just certain principles that are so difficult to comprehend, and lecturers can help you out with it.
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kael90
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Aug 24 2013, 12:42 AM
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Hmmm...I thought so as well but then its just that i'm a lil worried of my current job now that probably restrict me to attend some of the classes and not be able to cope up. Unless the classes are really flexible. And I believe you guys did your own studies most of the time right rather than totally rely on lecturers notes/tips?
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sengyik90
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Aug 24 2013, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(kael90 @ Aug 24 2013, 12:42 AM) Hmmm...I thought so as well but then its just that i'm a lil worried of my current job now that probably restrict me to attend some of the classes and not be able to cope up. Unless the classes are really flexible. And I believe you guys did your own studies most of the time right rather than totally rely on lecturers notes/tips? Haha, I skipped quite a lot of classes actually. Not a morning guy, can't wake up for 9am or 10am classes. I would say my lecturers were really dedicated and helpful. One particular lecturer can spend with me another hour just to explain those parts that I did not understand. I credit my success to them.
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earlgrey77
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Aug 26 2013, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(kael90 @ Aug 24 2013, 12:42 AM) Hmmm...I thought so as well but then its just that i'm a lil worried of my current job now that probably restrict me to attend some of the classes and not be able to cope up. Unless the classes are really flexible. And I believe you guys did your own studies most of the time right rather than totally rely on lecturers notes/tips? ya , most of the time .but it depends also on what kinda of lecturer you get .if you got a oood one and explain well , well you will have less burden and you may focus your work .However , like i said UOL is not easy .Hence , you basically just have to balance your study and work properly if you are not going for class .But a lecturer guidance may make difference between passing and failing as well . good luck
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chiahau
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Aug 26 2013, 10:54 AM
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The hardest thing for UoL is probably self-discipline to study.
It's not really that hard of a paper if everyone has the discipline to put in 1 hour - 2 hours of good revision time daily without the need to sacrifice anything else.
Sadly, I'm somewhat lacking that particular discipline yet....
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kael90
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Aug 26 2013, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 26 2013, 10:54 AM) The hardest thing for UoL is probably self-discipline to study. It's not really that hard of a paper if everyone has the discipline to put in 1 hour - 2 hours of good revision time daily without the need to sacrifice anything else. Sadly, I'm somewhat lacking that particular discipline yet.... Then how did you manage your studies most of the time? Any tips?
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chiahau
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Aug 26 2013, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(kael90 @ Aug 26 2013, 11:57 AM) Then how did you manage your studies most of the time? Any tips? I just manage. I guess the experience in doing a professional paper before a external exam does help. I don't really have lecturers or tutorials to rely to on the 1st exam, thus, gotta learn to do it all myself. Won't say it's easy at all, but it's definitely possible.
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deknoi
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Aug 26 2013, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(ebony_my @ Aug 23 2013, 05:04 PM) Can someone enlighten me on the difference between CLP and the UK Bar? Will it be a total waste to practice in malaysia after being admitted to the Bar? And also please highlight the different route between these two. Thanks  Bar is useful if you want to be a litigator, CLP is better for corporate. LPC would actually be ideal for corporate but it's not recognised in Malaysia.
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jhong
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Aug 29 2013, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(deknoi @ Aug 26 2013, 06:59 AM) Bar is useful if you want to be a litigator, CLP is better for corporate. LPC would actually be ideal for corporate but it's not recognised in Malaysia. I would agree that BPTC does train you in legal drafting and advocacy, but not necessarily make you a better litigator. However, i do not think having passed CLP would pave your way in becoming a corporate lawyer? Technically speaking, this is a misconception, we do not recognise the BPTC nor LPC itself. It is barrister-at-law that is recognised having admitted to the English Bar and member of Inn. If you passed your LPC and you're admitted into the roll of solicitors in the UK, it will be recognised here as well. We tend to misunderstand due to the fact that a pupillage is not a must to become barrister-at-law; whereas, in order to admit to the law society in the UK, you will have to secure a training contract. http://www.lpqb.org.my/index.php?option=co...d=131&Itemid=77This post has been edited by jhong: Aug 29 2013, 11:01 PM
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lynnster93
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Aug 30 2013, 11:11 PM
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Hi there. I am doing my foundation in MMU now. Is it possible to change to UM or UUM for my degree next year as I wanna save cost and all? Thank you.
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chiahau
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Aug 30 2013, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(lynnster93 @ Aug 30 2013, 11:11 PM) Hi there. I am doing my foundation in MMU now. Is it possible to change to UM or UUM for my degree next year as I wanna save cost and all? Thank you. I think it's quite hard, but you can definitely try your luck, if there's any.
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lynnster93
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Aug 31 2013, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Aug 31 2013, 12:26 AM) I think it's quite hard, but you can definitely try your luck, if there's any. But I can definitely apply? Thank you.
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chiahau
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Aug 31 2013, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(lynnster93 @ Aug 31 2013, 12:43 AM) But I can definitely apply? Thank you.  I thought you would google but oh well http://um.edu.my/mainpage.php?module=Maklu...&id=175&papar=1Don't think MMU foundation could be used for entry program.
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