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 Cycling V6 - Cycling season begins, General talks on Racing/road bikes

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post Jun 5 2013, 10:57 AM

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than boon foo is your best friend.. he has both those things and maybe even some old school shimano hubs if you don't mind the weight
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:05 AM

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no hope la tat one... 32 holes dt swiss never sells... unless you can settle for a 135mm disc brake version and figure out some ways to slam it in your frame...
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:09 AM)
huh? 32H not available eh? so what other options do we have here? shimano's freehub not that easy to maintain. need that special morningstar tool
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there is always ebay...

http://www.ebay.com.my/sch/i.html?_odkw=dt...0+road&_sacat=0

and even ebay also quite limited options... if my eyes is not wrong..i don't see a 32 hole version of the rear 240

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:10 AM)
? can u be more specific?
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i think he meant in what ways you want to get vin_anned?
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 11:15 AM)
Let's assume you gonna raise a building fund of RM2,700 being the same cost of your Fulcrum One. Will the end product has significance overall improvements, besides being aesthetically preferred and non mainstream.
I would think the cost of the material will compromises the quality of your build, no?
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it will definitely be much more tougher than the fulcrum one...for one...
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:21 AM)
itu 135mm untuk MTB punya lar
http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Hubs-MTB/240s-en

road punya 130mm ini maciam punya
http://www.dtswiss.com/Components/Hubs-Road/240s-en
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 11:21 AM)
32 spokes supposed to be a bunker wheels as in BOMB PROOF,is there a specific need to make your wheel that strong and stiff? Unless you have a massive body fame!
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maybe miao wants to go off-road downhill with his SL3

i for sure can't ride any low spoke count wheels without breaking spokes... even my current 28 spoked rear wheel has broken a few spokes... but that is due to my butt itchiness of lacing it radially on the non-drive side... so, it could be my fault for those few sacrificed spokes...
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 11:34 AM)
Have you re-laced it or let it be?
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let it be lar... where to find the spokes... all ordered in from US leh...

next time order.. .order more replacements already... this one was experimental only...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:34 AM)
ok i understand what u r trying to say. the reason why i choose 32H is because i want it to be durable and also the most obvious reason is, open pros available here are mostly 32H. correct BH?

truing a wheel with low spoke counts to perfectly even spoke tensions is very difficult. with 32H, it'll be much easier.

aesthetically it won't beat the racing 1. but it'll look real nice with an artsy fartsy steel frame smile.gif
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uhh... i think spoke tension with 32H is all over the place because the spoke tensions are generally very low with high spoke count wheels...

actually.... a combination of high spoke count and high crossing makes the wheel more durable... if you lace it like most performance wheels out there like 1 or 2 cross...i think it might end up weaker anyway...not sure lar, just felt that it is like that lar....

as for open pro 32h... boon foo has it and no thanks to me in part.. KH Cycle also...i asked them if they have 28hole open pro and they terus masuk 32 hole open pro into their KL store and tell me to go collect 'em... of course i lepas their kapal terbang lar... and made one more enemy along the way...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:35 AM)
haha! damn didn't see that. fail lah
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eagle eye FAIL!!!
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:51 AM

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actually if you don't mind... take this lar

http://www.bikehubstore.com/SuperLight-211-p/sl211.htm

got all sorts of spoke hole configurations...and almost as light as 240s...6 pawls high engagement count, and enduro dunno which grade bearings, full aluminum axle and freehub... the only thing is i felt the hub won't last long lar...quite a bit soft... so, you might have to buy a spare freehub jus in case the pawls f@k up or the cassette start digging into the freehub spine.. mine already a bit scratched...

and the best part...they have front hubs that are even lighter than zipp's 88 hub.. .and not to mention a wider flange spacing... 78mm vs 75mm

http://www.bikehubstore.com/SL85W-p/slf85w.htm

but all this say no use lar...it is f-in far away and shipping costs is nuts... and long term reliability is yet to be determined...i am a~hole who expect wheels to last 6-7 years... but none has lasted more than 2 for now...
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post Jun 5 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 11:49 AM)
eagle eye sore lah today.

u ordered 28H, but they brought in 32H?
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i know mavic produces 28, 32, 36 hole open pros... so i asked them if they can check if singapore KH has stock of 28 hole open pro... mana tau without confirming with me they straight away fly the 32 hole version in and tell me it is ready for collection... so, i didn't collect lar because i set my mind on the 28 hole hub already (because of sale price blush.gif )
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post Jun 5 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 12:05 PM)
eh what lah? first u promote and then u un-promote
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i did not promote dt swiss hubs mar...

so i did not do wrong...i always say shimano hubs...or some cheaplak novatec 4sb or something like that from ebay...rosak... kasi buang cos its so cheap...

QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 12:14 PM)
KH Cycle trust people so much? LOL

All these bike hubs talks are confusing me. :/
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i dun see them trusting me when i asked to buy the ROX 8.0... i had to pay full amount up front some more...

u suck lar

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post Jun 5 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 12:35 PM)
ok la. i kena belajar how to service shimano hubs la. shimano hub, open pro rims, dt champion spokes, brass nipples. good eh?
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watever yanks your chain...

dun need service lar... shimano hubs are so cheap... buy spares and replace aje lar...and shimano hubs dun need jack shit tools to service it lar... just 2 allen keys and i think every damn thing falls out and you will see balls rolling on the floor...

QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 12:36 PM)
The fall was really bad, who wants to go bike tech subang later?
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u think we all no need to work...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 12:37 PM)
baiktek subang
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tetek subang...

QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 12:41 PM)
I can't join because of shoulder inflammation
play with aeroplane too much...

QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 12:41 PM)
just wanna go there check my bike, no buy stuffs
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you dun need to tell us that... tell it to the person who matters most...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 12:43 PM)
ala... u just want to create a diversion from getting vinanned
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he sked of surprise buttsecks...

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 12:48 PM)
Let me add to the confusion too....

Lacing the damn thing requires a Degree here....heh, but no problem here as I suspect BH and Miao over qualifies.
Just for the sake of asking. The way the spokes are laced, wheather it is laced cross; straight, driveside, NDS- requires spokes of different length, or the differences in length are too insignificant and can be taken care by the threaded spoke end?
The way the spokes are laced are fixed depending on the hub flanges designed? rclxub.gif
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there is only so much a nipple can take (pun un-intended)...

everything from the Rim ERD, nipple length, hub flange height, spacing, all affects the spoke calculation... you can be off by an mm or 2 as the nipples can take up the slack but you will run out of threads real fast...

and yes, thanks for acknowledging that i am over qualified to talk c0ck... i am now studying for my phd in c0ckology..

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 12:52 PM)
i don't know how to build wheels la. i only know how to true. BH's my sifu/boss. he knows.

u can lace it anyway u want' la. i've seen some very fancy lace pattern, but obviously doesn't serve any purpose.
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i know jack shit too... i jus google the shit up and pretend i am the grandmaster blush.gif

twisted spokes
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twisted and soldered spokes
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it's like dafag...

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 12:53 PM)
Ouch!  ... Bad for your wheels but you seems ok and ready to .....flying on descents!
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he is always OK to be vin_annalized whistling.gif

QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 12:58 PM)
luckily stock wheels are Alex only tongue.gif If play fulcrum fulcrum like miao, i sure hide at home cry d
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Alex Mack... me likes...
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and then Y-F-O came and i was like OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!
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but then she dies in less than 1 season and i was like WTF!!! WTF!!! WTF!!!

sure you'd be crying at home... once you get vin_annalized... you will never look back because u won't dare too...

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 01:01 PM)
Don't compromise...go with DT Swiss and DT aerolite spokes, get carbon wheels rim since you already have the Alu.
dafag is wrong with u...

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 01:01 PM)
Remember, you will enjoy your ride even more with the esteemed pieces.
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i rather ride with a mila kunis cardboard print out tied to my back...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:02 PM)
i studied cocolee
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really... she is married you know???

i like nata de coco on the other hand... licks it day and night...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:03 PM)
aiseh this fella still dont understand ka... sudah panjang lebar cerita, still tak faham....
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he is in another universe...
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:01 PM)
fapfapfap too much. new method i guess
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fap fest...
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 01:08 PM)
My Mavic also had a small dent recently....no problem at all!
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dented or scratched?

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:11 PM)
dented rims are a bunch of mofos to be trued.
can mofos be trued?

i know they are not right though...so, you have to make them go


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post Jun 5 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 01:14 PM)
jatuh basikal la
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because of fapping too much the night before... or gotten surprise vin_annalization...
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 01:17 PM)
The dent is the size of a pea, got hit by a flying rock, but my alignment seems ok!
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you must be pea'sed...

wat sort of dent is that... as long as not on the brake track... f@k it...

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post Jun 5 2013, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 5 2013, 01:13 PM)
i wonder why beyonce no leave armpit hair??? it would be so much fun seeing her sing irreplaceable with armpit hair...

everyone will be vomiting to the left...

girls with armpit hair is so cool that it must be a turn on for lil...
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:22 PM)
huh? mila kunis at ur back? role playing or what? swapping?
romantic mar... carry your girl on the bike riding into the sunset... isn't it???

me likes happy endings... whichever way you look at it...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:22 PM)
STUDIED. past tense. but married oso okay laa... forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest? rite? or no rite?
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Rape and Raped is also the same.. an offense is an offense...if you get what i mean...

shemales is a forbidden fruit too... why you no think that taste sweet?

QUOTE(Mac Wai @ Jun 5 2013, 01:23 PM)
Between the nipples only rclxms.gif
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lil must be aroused reading this sentence....
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jun 5 2013, 01:25 PM)
u mofo!
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yes, i admit i am one.. isn't everyone??? they are bound to become mothers right?? except for those who play with lady boys la...

QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 5 2013, 01:25 PM)
must use tachometer to monitor the stroke rpm
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stroke-o-meter...
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