Sorry I started the confusion, when I typed Ultegra, instead 'ultraman' came up. But sailormoon and baja hitam, that is a whole new level of madness...only our BH Kor can decipher for us

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: May 12 2013, 02:26 PM

the latter

impossibru

nothing to decipher... jus me likes sailormoon...

there is no need to understand... jus addd ur nonsense to the conversation and watch it spin out of control

Cadel is in with a shout. Now, need to moved up one place in the GC only.

Cervelo P5 ...... RCA works .... Not doing it for Ryder Hesjedal at the mo..

Ha ha ha......Sir!

This post has been edited by Mac Wai: May 12 2013, 06:10 PM

apparently, the Sir threw his bike again yesterday, but did not see it, not on youtube yet

Perhaps that's an advantage that comes with the title of... Sir, can chuck things around out of frustration and doesn't give a flying fark.

it's too soon to tell... it is coming into nibali's terrain in the coming stages.. and wiggins will have a tough time as the next TT is an uphill TT...

yeah... he had a puncture and a bike change... he threw the new bolide??? tats surprising..

he doesn't give a flying fark whether he is a sir or not....

Hi All ..
I would like to ask can I install road bike crank set 50/34 into my mountain bike? Current one is 22/36/44

technically it will install into ur mtb with no issues... the question here is nit whether you can use or not but rather the mtb frame was not designed to be used with such a big chainring... issues like whether the fd can be relocated further up seattube or chainline problems or the chain ring hitting chain stay and those sort of probability

1. MTB's cranks usually have a 42 or 44T big chainring and a 20 or 22T granny while road cranks have 50 to 53T big rings and a 30T granny. The larger chainrings may not clear the frame's chainstays since MTB frames often have fat chainstays that are flaired to clear fat tires.

2. You will probably need a different bottom bracket. Your bb shell may be either 73 or 68 mm wide. All road cranks are made for a 68 mm bb shell so your chainline may be off.

3. You will almost certainly need a longer chain to make up the 6 to 11T big chainring difference.

4. Your front derailleur cage won't be curved to match the larger chainring and will have to sit way too high to clear it so shifting will be very poor. A road fd will be needed to shift properly but won't index correctly with your MTB shifters.

I think looking for a mountain bike 48 tooth crank is a better choice. There are such sizes for mtbs.

Sorry for the late reply, we were away for the weekend and to my surprise, so many replies on our plight. We would like to say thank you to all those who responded.

We went to Rodalink in Botanic last Friday. We were told the following for my partner 192cm height, he should be riding:
A) Polygon at 56cm
B) Colnago at 54cm

The reason was Italian brand (Colnago) is usually following European size, thus 54cm enough. Meanwhile, Polygon is following Asian size, so need 56cm. However, when we visited few bike website, 190cm is at least the following sizes XL / 60 or (61 for Trek).

We were also told that people these days ride 1 size smaller, so he should be at least a 58cm. We are trying to get this right to prevent spending 5k on the wrong size, causing discomfort and him giving up the sports, burning the 5k.


vin_ann,
We have been a to few bike shops (I've only been to 2) but my partner goes around with his friends. We agreed that most bike shops owner / salesperson are very snobbish so its very hard to go into details, it's equally as hard to ask more technical questions because people see us like "dont want to buy, ask so much for what?" That's how I ended up resorting to this online forum solution.

I am not sure if my partner is going to like cycling or for how long. He does a lot of things but sometimes, halfway. Noticed that men are like that but for now, it's mainly for working out, cycling with friends. If further, he'd probably join triathlon but that's far fetch for now.

We are just thinking ahead with the resale value, as mentioned my partner is quite tall at 190cm++ and to buy a regular frame and upgrade means to sell this regular frame. As his size is quite large, it would be harder to sell unless the price is lowered, thus loss of money there. If the resale value is very poor, might as well get a better frame and not upgrade further. Not sure if this thoughts is rights but I stand to be corrected. Appreciate your wise input.


Mac Wai,
I think you can read my partner's mind. He is like what you said, branded bike will make him feel good but we want to know where to draw the line because we dont know the bicycle market. 5k? 10k? As we have commitments to handle, I would prefer the smaller budget the better, at the same time, not offending him with constraints and affect his hobby / lifestyle. If it is for exercising, spending time with friends, I highly encourage it but there is always a limit that we need to work on.

The front page has a list of 'range' for each type of bike, I think that is helpful, printed out for him as a guideline.


butthead,
It's not that easy to poison a family man and his financial director. He is quite careful person so he should be able to handle himself. I was told that carbon is stronger than aluminium. I'm not a science person so not sure if that's true. I just want him to be safe and happy at this new hobby and hopefully this hobby last, takes some weight off that tummy.

He tried a mountain bike recently, also noticed some stress on the tire. I am wondering if racing bike tire can sustain this weight 115kg???????????????

first of all... i'd like to correct a very dangerous word there.. a misunderstanding on the real meaning of the word means a world of difference...

carbon is stiffer than alloy metals but not necessarily stronger...stronger as a word means how far i can bend the carbon material before it takes form into that shape...

through years of development...carbon can be constructed to be fairly strong by laying carbon cloth in multiple directions but there are still chances that it could crack if impacted at a wrong angle or force...it is hard to find failures under rider duress... usually failures are tied to defects or crash impacts...

the only good thing about carbon is that it does not have the fatigue characteristics of alloy metals and if layup is done properly.. it could have dampening characteristics while being stiff at the same time... sounds impossible, but with some R&D magic... it has reach that level of advancement in composites today...

This post has been edited by butthead: May 13 2013, 11:57 AM

you hate wiggins but you like his bike

size wise... the internet ones are just to be used for a starting base... i have seen people riding size 54 and up... mostly guai los... and the bikes looks very huge...i can't imagine riding those bikes... i don't know about your husband although 190cm sounds really tall... i would say the safest bet is to find the bike and hop on it to get a feel...

the best scenario is that he could ride his friends or cousins bike (since they got him interested in the first place, loaning a bike should not be an issue) a fair bit to get a feel of riding...the frame size might not be right but at least he knows what criteria he is looking for... the longer the ride, the better...from there, he will be able to develop his set of criteria as in whether he want to be more stretched out sitting more upright to be more comfortable and etc...from there... there will be less possible for getting a wrong bike (Size wise at least)

as for brands... i can only say buy what suits your budget... typically, branded = more $$$ which i believe everyone agrees...that being said, does not mean that big brands don't have cheap bikes... even big bike brands make many bikes to cater to different buyers of different income tiers...they just spec the bike with cheaper parts to meet the same price bracket...

whether on the frame would be built better is a question that you have to ask yourself...it could be hocus pocus or it could be the real deal...what happens, (and i am not trying to sway you) with the big brands is that their entry level or cheaper frames are actually outsourced to mass frame manufacturers in taiwan or china to be produced while they only make or hand produce their top of the line frames that has some technology or special magic which they have labored over years that they do not want it exposed or leaked out...

tires would not be his worry... it won't blow up because of his weight... although he might benefit from riding fatter tires... his worry is more or less centered around the wheels as wheels nowadays are built scantily as they chase to satisfy the weight weenies... with less weight, there is less material to shoulder the stresses and the wheels can go bust easily with his weight... more especially if he is a person who has a lot of leg muscles...

i can only say hats off to you for understanding the needs of your partner and doing research on behalf of his interests...


i think a lot of buggers hear envy your partner and most likely crying in a corner now at their misery...bwahahhaha

I don't hate Wiggins, I just, don't fancy him. Underdogs underdogs!

But Pinarello Dogma 65.1 think 2, unless it's dopestrong's bike, it is impossible to not like it.

i don't like pina... it has strange curves and things don't look symmetric...my brain works in a very straight line manner... tat or i have OCD...

Hmmm I personally feel size 54 is rather small for someone 190cm. I'm only 180 cm with an inseam of about 33-34inch (86cm) and can ride a size 54/56/58 bike with adjustments to the stem length and saddle height. Depending on manufacturer this could be either a size medium or medium large.

Best is to do your own measurement first to make sure you have a general idea on what size you'll need

bike fit calculator

This post has been edited by yolk: May 13 2013, 12:49 PM