My Wife id end streak at 44 win
Time to get another Lilith but hmm
I think I try to rearrange the deck to the one who defeated superman
Btw
His fujin is alm?

Mine ended at 43 - maniacal fail to ohko shinrru and fail to sd

look again at this pic ... really damn GG .......

but u guys can go battle him , since i edi bought away his alm sonic fujin ...

hmmmm ... i'm in the middle of some work can't think now ..

other sifu can help out here ?

your deck if alot phy .. lilith will be the killer ..

but for now top elite , lilith usually kill 1 only , cox no chance to evace ..

other than march, morri and odin is phy ..the other 8 cards is ele caster .. hence no chance at all for your lilith to kill 2 ..

some even change morri to QS ele4 LS .. lagi no chance for u to move ..

yes boss .. alm fujin .. and move 1st against my rb ace odin as starter ..

so sure is alm sonic fujin ... u know what ? i bought the alm sonic fujin from the same guy who whack my ass !

LOL ! now he no more alm sonic fujin as starter ...


wow ... maniacal cant ohko damn shinryu ?

that's the gambling luck u need to pay for using maniacal ..

i think next time when i'm near 30 streak , 40 streak and 50 streak ...

i will remove all gambling card and insert pure muscle alm ...

like alm sonic dom , alm sonic fujin , alm sonic lamia , alm wise golbez ..

This post has been edited by supermac: May 2 2013, 03:40 PM

My dead id ended at 39
Mine lunar ended at 47
Mine maniacal failed to sd also

Tonight insert my alm fujin
Take out maniacal

i also think june too far.. that's y hope there will be a gathering in May.
What does Night & Funny think??

Yup.. i promised something exciting & fun for all who attend.. physically..
virtual attendance doesnt counts..

If u dare to dance Gangnam style + Nobody, i'll throw in an ALM just for you

Ok my friend sort of found out a way on how the Agi works. But we need help to prove it. Yes, I am pointing this to supermac since he always do social fights analysis.

This is what we think. The algorithm is like a Agi basket. And each turn will take 2500 Agi point (*assume) in allowing ur guadian to make one move.

Now this is the case, if I am using an ALM Sonic S.Bird. My fs base agi is 5204 vs my opponent beserk behe (normal) with agi 2573.

So now my Agi basket is 5204 and my opponent Agi basket is 2573. Hence my S.bird will make the move 1st since my Agi basket is higher. When i make the frist move, my agi basket will reduce by 2.5K which become 2704 and assume my bird cannot kill that bold behe.

Then in order to make a 2nd move, they will compare the Agi basket again. My basket now have 2704 agi vs my oppoent 2573. Again, my Agi basket is higher. So i will make the 2nd move to kill that bold behe. So now my agi basket only left 204 and oppenent has 2573 + 3258 (RB Ace cagnazzo fs). So now my opponent will make the move first since my agi basket only have 204 points. And my bird got kill my cagnazzo... Now my agi basket is 204 points and my opponent has 3331 agi point (2573 + 3258 - 2500).

Then my 2nd card comes in Ace RB Domi with Agi 3608. So now we will compare the agi basket again, I have 3812 (3608 + 204) agi point and my oppenent have 3331. So I will get to move since my agi basket is higher. Then the calculation continue....

I am not sure if our understanding is accurate, but lets see if someone can prove this and find out the Agi point required for one move.

And what if both agi basket become 0 when both guardian cannot kill each other? I think each person will get one move until someone get kill.

supermac can you tell us more about ur lilith fight without +4 skill? Did she hit and evade, hit and evade until one card get kill?

This idea is like the old school game where u need to wait for ur agi bar to be fully filled before u can make a move.

Note: Agi 20/25 buff will add the additional Agi points into your basket. So it would benefit ur next guardian or overall deck agi.

This post has been edited by cvshi515: May 2 2013, 04:17 PM

damn bro !!! damnnnnnnnnnn !!! you are goooooooooooood in maths and explaining stuff ...

is so easy to understand with your explanation compare to those info i search back including ATB bar etc .... big ZzZZzZZZZZ for me ...

okay now i know how agi works .... but need to determine the *agi require to move point .. this need some real experiment here ...

my 2nd ID got some problem hence can do social battle between 2 deck ...

and your maths also prove that , in previous monster colli . i always encounter alm behe vs alm bird .. alm bird always move twice against alm behe !

not always , but confirm will move twice if alm behe vs alm bird ...


i've taken pix of your maths explanation , incase i forget i can always refer back ! LOL ~
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yea lilith scratch then evade then scratch then evade then scratch then evade ... for 6-7 round untill mp depleted ..

i notice when lilith kena QS , then opponent phy4 some times can evade some times cant ,

if opponent direct cast phy4 without QS , lilith always evade ....

another senario is when lilith evade the 1st hit , he always evade the 2nd or 3rd untill she ko that guardian ... else she wont stop evade ..

supermac
Hehe, we are not sure if this is really how it works. Thats why we need a social analysis like you to find out more in details.

If we can prove this is how the agi/move algorithm work, then we should reconsidering all the Agi buff/debuff guardian whether to take away their buff/debuff.

let's see who's free tonight .. i'll do a social battle as usual ... then i'll list out my guardian accordingly with agi .. and let say the opponent is fallen .. fallen will list out his deck arrangement and agi stats ..

buthen i need to type fast .. lolz to record down each movement each step ...

will try my best here ! let see tonight i can come out with something useful or not !

thanks for all the maths and detail simple explanation ...

No worries bro. Just trying to sort things out since I am looking for the same answer as well. Lets hope we all will find the answer soon. Hehe and now ur social fight will be more excited.

Oh, you can record the fight with ur second idevice then slow montion it hehehe.

LOL that sounds fun !

i'll pick bro negisf deck , but he currently on holiday ~ so have to go for the one and only " FunnyTone " for non ocean battle + "FallenOut" for ocean battle !

i try use 2nd device to do video recording then share to youtube and post the link here XD

Just my suggestion, it's better to test if let's say Supermac deck is all fsemp max level. Where opponent's deck is all 1* or 2* (if can get same species same type better) + select those 1* that has lower agi, so we can close up the gap between each guardian.

Cause if we set the deck in this manner, we can tell more accurately what is the agi points required per action.
Let me illustrate,

Let's say Super 1st card is ALM Dom fesmp - agi 5200.
Then Negisf's 1st card is Banshee Lv1 - agi 600, obviously alm dom move first can kill first.
Then my 2nd banshee - agi 600, comes out again. Kena killed also.
Continue to 3rd banshee - agi 600, comes out kena killed too.
Finally, the forth Banshee comes out, get to move finally n scratch alm dom.

Then let x be the agi required per action,
so we can roughly estimate that x is,

2,400 < X > 1,800.

If this theory is correct, after the forth banshee move and died,
subsequent banshee will all move n scratch the alm dom first before get killed,
cause the ALM Dom agi bar alrd kosong by now.

This post has been edited by negisf: May 2 2013, 04:48 PM

how come this is now about maths and formulas more than a game lolz

i hate maths
i always hate maths
i failed at maths


I HATE MATHS

Cause those perfectionist want to gauge battle better..

But i believe it's no use la in battle.
Cause u won't know what is your opponent cards until u battle them..
Even if u know what card, u don't know what type and exact stats.

I believe lar, if u really take down all your opponent cards every battle,
then swap your cards to match their weakness, that is more than enuf to dominate the battles

+100. i also damn hate maths due to always fail and slow compare to my friend.

haha, we will do the math and let u guys know the summary.

But like bro negisf said, there is still some loop in the theory that we trying to prove.

I have tested a wild guardian fight. The Alm Sonic S.Bird kill 3 cards then get scratch. Then opponent scratch bird. Then bird scratch again twice.

So there is some missing part in between..... more to find out.

@bro supermac - my current deck is without oceon too u can try it as non oceon deck

The lilith abba comment i gave is referring to opponent deck

Bros, i remember reading that who moves first is based on ATB bar.. One move is 10,000 agi pt
So, say alm dom agi is 5,200 and opponent is sbird agi 4800
First round atb bar: our deck 5200 - opponent 4800
Second round alm dom will move after 4800 agi pt, opponent agi is 4800 +4800 = 9600
Alm dom kill sbird
Next opponent gilga come out
So now
Atb bar for alm dom is 0 and opponent is 9600
So after 400 agi pt, our atb bar is 400 and opponent is 10000 so ffv gilg move and kill alm dom
So now new card come out, atb bar is 400 and opponent atb bar is 0

This post has been edited by justanovice: May 2 2013, 05:21 PM

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