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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V7 thread ★★~, Are you game to be a Guardian Master?

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shiroikun
post May 2 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 04:03 PM)
i also think june too far.. that's y hope there will be a gathering in May.
What does Night & Funny think??
Yup.. i promised something exciting & fun for all who attend.. physically..
virtual attendance doesnt counts..
If u dare to dance Gangnam style + Nobody, i'll throw in an ALM just for you
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hmm, clubbing kah? else how u gonna dance, haha


QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 05:12 PM)
Bros, i remember reading that who moves first is based on ATB bar.. One move is 10,000 agi pt
So, say alm dom agi is 5,200 and opponent is sbird agi 4800
First round atb bar: our deck 5200 - opponent 4800
Second round alm dom will move after 4800 agi pt, opponent agi is 4800 +4800 = 9600
Alm dom kill sbird
Next opponent gilga come out
So now
Atb bar for alm dom is 0 and opponent is 9600
So after 400 agi pt, our atb bar is 400 and opponent is 10000 so ffv gilg move and kill alm dom
So now new card come out, atb bar is 400 and opponent atb bar is 0
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if this is the calculation, then getting 10 sonic cards in whole deck will be in advantage

This post has been edited by shiroikun: May 2 2013, 05:31 PM
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post May 2 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 04:45 PM)
Just my suggestion, it's better to test if let's say Supermac deck is all fsemp max level. Where opponent's deck is all 1* or 2* (if can get same species same type better) + select those 1* that has lower agi, so we can close up the gap between each guardian.

Cause if we set the deck in this manner, we can tell more accurately what is the agi points required per action.
Let me illustrate,

Let's say Super 1st card is ALM Dom fesmp - agi 5200.
Then Negisf's 1st card is Banshee Lv1 - agi 600, obviously alm dom move first can kill first.
Then my 2nd banshee - agi 600, comes out again. Kena killed also.
Continue to 3rd banshee - agi 600, comes out kena killed too.
Finally, the forth Banshee comes out, get to move finally n scratch alm dom.

Then let x be the agi required per action,
so we can roughly estimate that x is,

2,400 < X > 1,800.

If this theory is correct,  after the forth banshee move and died,
subsequent banshee will all move n scratch the alm dom first before get killed,
cause the ALM Dom agi bar alrd kosong by now.
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another maths pro ! good idea ....

i will use my main ID battle all the main ID of all the bros ..

then use my 2nd ID battle bro negisf mention deck with similar 1* or 2*

then let see we can come out with what ! smile.gif

QUOTE(FallenOut @ May 2 2013, 04:50 PM)
i hate maths
i always hate maths
i failed at maths
I HATE MATHS
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LOL ~ same here , that's why i crack my head i also cannot figure out how agi works !

untill our bro here detail and simple explanation .. we understand the basics of Agi ! hahahahah

QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 04:51 PM)
Cause those perfectionist want to gauge battle better..

But i believe it's no use la in battle.
Cause u won't know what is your opponent cards until u battle them..
Even if u know what card, u don't know what type and exact stats.

I believe lar, if u really take down all your opponent cards every battle,
then swap your cards to match their weakness, that is more than enuf to dominate the battles
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yeap ... actually this theory is not determine winning chances in colli , just the curiosity on agi ~

we paying high bucks for high agi guards but sometimes his mood good he move twice , he not happy he dont move lolx ..

beh song lo .. if know edi then no need blame luck , is ownself tak pandai arrange lor ahhahaha ...


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post May 2 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(shiroikun @ May 2 2013, 05:30 PM)
hmm, clubbing kah? else how u gonna dance, haha
if this is the calculation, then getting 10 sonic cards in whole deck will be in advantage
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I'm very sure this is what i read long time ago. smile.gif
Sonic will always gain agi but weaker in other stats means ohko rate will drop. smile.gif

Btw bro tested ur deck, don think behe is good as starter wor
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post May 2 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 05:06 PM)
@bro supermac - my current deck is without oceon too u can try it as non oceon deck

The lilith abba comment i gave is referring to opponent deck

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hahahah okok ... tonight have much GC homework to do ..

hope i'm free to do it smile.gif

QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 05:12 PM)
Bros, i remember reading that who moves first is based on ATB bar.. One move is 10,000 agi pt
So, say alm dom agi is 5,200 and opponent is sbird agi 4800
First round atb bar: our deck 5200 - opponent 4800
Second round alm dom will move after 4800 agi pt, opponent agi is 4800 +4800 = 9600
Alm dom kill sbird
Next opponent gilga come out
So now
Atb bar for alm dom is 0 and opponent is 9600
So after 400 agi pt, our atb bar is 400 and opponent is 10000 so ffv gilg move and kill alm dom
So now new card come out, atb bar is 400 and opponent atb bar is 0
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ya .. this is something i read too ... 10,000 point something like that

but after read it also dun understand what is it .. lolx ....

i need simpler explanation cox my maths is bad ..
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post May 2 2013, 05:50 PM

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have u all see a card almost 8k HP ????

no leh ! this is a card i always dream to owned ...

noting but the "ALMIGHTY GOLD SLIME"

最強ゴールドスライム

http://www.guardiancrossx.com/jp/card.asp?code=152309


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post May 2 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ May 2 2013, 05:50 PM)
have u all see a card almost 8k HP ????

no leh ! this is a card i always dream to owned ...

noting but the "ALMIGHTY GOLD SLIME"

最強ゴールドスライム

http://www.guardiancrossx.com/jp/card.asp?code=152309
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walao. 8k life gold slime with 3304 attack is quiet a good card in a cool type. lol
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post May 2 2013, 06:06 PM

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lilith is a must get for elite team... then followed by abaddon.. lilith can play hide and seek with odin/gilga ffv/marcho/SE physical like nobody's business.. my best evade so far was 4-5 times and b**** slapped 3 times... 3 times b**** slap can even kill a marcho i think..
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QUOTE(supermac @ May 2 2013, 05:42 PM)
hahahah okok ... tonight have much GC homework to do ..

hope i'm free to do it smile.gif
ya .. this is something i read too ... 10,000 point something like that

but after read it also dun understand what is it .. lolx ....

i need simpler explanation cox my maths is  bad ..
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My explanation not simple ah? •_•
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jz able to collect a cool abaddon. lol. quiet expensive price for this guy. can't get fast type. lol sad.gif
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post May 2 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ May 2 2013, 07:08 PM)
jz able to collect a cool abaddon. lol. quiet expensive price for this guy. can't get fast type. lol sad.gif
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Oh free apple you grow quite fast wor smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 06:06 PM)
lilith is a must get for elite team... then followed by abaddon.. lilith can play hide and seek with odin/gilga ffv/marcho/SE physical like nobody's business.. my best evade so far was 4-5 times and b**** slapped 3 times... 3 times b**** slap can even kill a marcho i think..
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yup ... 100% hide and seek game for lilith to look for those phy attacker , if meet them 70-80% will evade ...

but if hide and seek fail and found a ele attacker , might still able to kill 1 then die lolz ..

and i noticed , when she evade the 1st hit following hit sure will evade and evade and evade untill that guardian die ...



QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 06:13 PM)
My explanation not simple ah? •_•
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simple ah ! only those crazy maths fomula shown on wiki is damn confusing ..

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 07:24 PM)
Oh free apple you grow quite fast wor smile.gif
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every bro join our home here grow fast in GC i think ...

SE stop spamming new guardian and give us a guild system .. then we can form our own guild and do guild war !

we have many elite taikor here ...

the legend level --> MBR , JKleeJK , Negisf , FallenOut , FunnyBoss

the New Hero level --> KitFox , Uzura , JustaNovice , Tabs , Mcblade and many more !

the coach --> one and only "NightHeart"

the Bench Warmer --> Last Wolf
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post May 2 2013, 09:13 PM

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Meet few of our LYN member in elite coliseum ..

the new LYN super elite player " Kitfox "

i think d very long .. in the end click your deck for battle lolz




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Then after Total win bonus ~ shoot my rank up abit and thx to Sifu JK tips on deck arrangement ...

i met Our Legendary " JkleeJK"

i quickly use Deft Step evade away this Sifu ! 3600+ dmg .. looks easy to beat ? touch it and bye bye !

1 Word " GG "

Rank S+ Top30 Elite player !




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This post has been edited by supermac: May 2 2013, 09:18 PM
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post May 2 2013, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 07:06 PM)
lilith is a must get for elite team... then followed by abaddon.. lilith can play hide and seek with odin/gilga ffv/marcho/SE physical like nobody's business.. my best evade so far was 4-5 times and b**** slapped 3 times... 3 times b**** slap can even kill a marcho i think..
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kind of agree. so far best 10 card for elite as for me:

1. Alm Wise Golbez
2. Alm Sonic Dom
3. Alm Sonic Specter/Alm Berserk Jugg (Jugg always has special place for deck arrangement)
4. AceR Lilith (best 5*)
5. AceR Abbadon (2nd place)
6. AceR Morrighan (3rd place)
7. AceR Marchosias
8. AceR Barbie
9. AceR Sphinx Empress (yes this card is back to adore!, she can tank elem att!)
0. AceR Odin

Above is latest Billboard chart after Lilith appearance! This is only my preference & so far S+ rank in elite. All folks almost use the same cards! insane!

Bench:
1. AceR FFV Gilga (this card is the culprit lose battle, he is still too slow for my liking though he is fastest LSer)
2. AceR Siren (it is quite good, but coz it is unstable)
3. AceR Golbez (this is special special card can really counter elem att. it is a keeper)
4. AceR H-Nix (the revive rate is quite good, sometimes it is good for a change)
5. AceR Cagnazzo (same reason as Golbez)
6. Alm Sonic Lamia (still a good card, but coz got other card is faster now)
7. AceR Omega (still special card, coz it has v high HP & can tank elem att) >>>i didnt own 1 ...lol


***For now before new new ocean guardian is out, LSers is stone age. QS & DS rules! lol


Outdated folks
1. Nuada
2. Thor
3. Atlas
4. Alm Bold Behemoth
5. Alm Sonic S Bird
6. Alm Wise Xmas
7. Alm Sonic Shiva (quite a good card, decent speed & can tank elem att)
8. Alm Sonic Aspara

Potential impact card
1. Alm Sonic Fujin (my observation, can cincai pawn morrig, odin, alm golbez, got damn high HP)
2. Cthulu (i am still finding the buff disable full potential)
3. Poseidon/Ungur (havent experience & encounter much, not sure about it)
4. Alm Sonic Baha (still a very good card, coz can be either phy/elem att, also can tank both phy/elem att, if play correctly still can perform, that is y T. Calvin still use it)

This post has been edited by jkleejk: May 2 2013, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(supermac @ May 2 2013, 10:13 PM)
Meet few of our LYN member in elite coliseum ..

the new LYN super elite player " Kitfox "

i think d very long .. in the end click your deck for battle lolz
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Then after Total win bonus ~ shoot my rank up abit and thx to Sifu JK tips on deck arrangement ...

i met Our Legendary " JkleeJK"

i quickly use Deft Step evade away this Sifu ! 3600+ dmg .. looks easy to beat ? touch it and bye bye !

1 Word " GG "

Rank S+ Top30 Elite player !
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dun touch applejam, he is more dangerous than me whistling.gif me cincai can kaotim la...
i am lucky still can get 12wins at S+ rank, ended by no#1 spot ...ur buddy killerque ...my abba sap failed, his SD success...all haywire .. sweat.gif

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post May 2 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:19 PM)
kind of agree. so far best 10 card for elite as for me:

1. Alm Wise Golbez
2. Alm Sonic Dom
3. Alm Sonic Specter/Alm Berserk Jugg (Jugg always has special place for deck arrangement)
4. AceR Lilith (best
5. AceR Abbadon
6. AceR Morrighan
7. AceR Marchosias
8. AceR Barbie
9. AceR Sphinx Empress (yes this card is back to adore!, she can tank elem att!)
0. AceR Odin

Above is latest Billboard chart after Lilith appearance! This is only my preference & so far S+ rank in elite. All folks almost

Bench:
1. AceR FFV Gilga (this card is the culprit lose battle, he is still too slow for my liking though he is fastest LSer)
2. AceR Siren (it is quite good, but coz it is unstable)
3. AceR Golbez (this is special special card can really counter elem att. it is a keeper)
4. AceR H-Nix (the revive rate is quite good, sometimes it is good for a change)
5. AceR Cagnazzo (same reason as Golbez)
6. Alm Sonic Lamia (still a good card, but coz got other card is faster now)
7. AceR Omega (still special card, coz it has v high HP & can tank elem att) >>>i didnt own 1 ...lol
***For now before new new ocean guardian is out, LSers is stone age. QS & DS rules! lol
Outdated folks
1. Nuada
2. Thor
3. Atlas
4. Alm Bold Behemoth
5. Alm Sonic S Bird
6. Alm Wise Xmas
7. Alm Sonic Shiva (quite a good card, decent speed & can tank elem att)
8. Alm Sonic Aspara

Potential impact card
1. Alm Sonic Fujin (my observation, can cincai pawn morrig, odin, alm golbez, got damn high HP)
2. Cthulu (i am still finding the buff disable full potential)
3. Poseidon/Ungur (havent experience & encounter much, not sure about it)
4. Alm Sonic Baha (still a very good card, coz can be either phy/elem att, also can tank both phy/elem att, if play correctly still can perform, that is y T. Calvin still use it)
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wahhhhh ~ thanks for the detail explanation !

with this info ... our bro here will have clear idea what to trade back for their deck in order to perform well in colli ..

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BTW i saw u in colli ... see above pic ..

i run far far away from u ...
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post May 2 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 09:18 PM)
So whats the result? tongue.gif
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Lucky Home win for me .. i sweat to the max when battle him .. close close call .. LOL

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:20 PM)
dun touch applejam, he is more dangerous than me  whistling.gif  me cincai can kaotim la...
i am lucky still can get 12wins at S+ rank, ended by no#1 spot ...ur buddy killerque ...my abba sap failed, his SD success...all haywire .. sweat.gif
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bro .. i'm still on this colli tix .. battle d the 1st u guy ...

along - Rank 31 - win

walker - Rank 57 - win

now left u , PeachJam , Xenoze ... dunno who to battle lolz .. any suggestion ?

buthen i will stay here for awhile cox tix now 1/5 ... wanna keep the streak going on .. so will wait till 5/5 only do colli again ..

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:19 PM)
kind of agree. so far best 10 card for elite as for me:

1. Alm Wise Golbez
2. Alm Sonic Dom
3. Alm Sonic Specter/Alm Berserk Jugg (Jugg always has special place for deck arrangement)
4. AceR Lilith (best 5*)
5. AceR Abbadon (2nd place)
6. AceR Morrighan (3rd place)
7. AceR Marchosias
8. AceR Barbie
9. AceR Sphinx Empress (yes this card is back to adore!, she can tank elem att!)
0. AceR Odin

Above is latest Billboard chart after Lilith appearance! This is only my preference & so far S+ rank in elite. All folks almost use the same cards! insane!

Bench:
1. AceR FFV Gilga (this card is the culprit lose battle, he is still too slow for my liking though he is fastest LSer)
2. AceR Siren (it is quite good, but coz it is unstable)
3. AceR Golbez (this is special special card can really counter elem att. it is a keeper)
4. AceR H-Nix (the revive rate is quite good, sometimes it is good for a change)
5. AceR Cagnazzo (same reason as Golbez)
6. Alm Sonic Lamia (still a good card, but coz got other card is faster now)
7. AceR Omega (still special card, coz it has v high HP & can tank elem att) >>>i didnt own 1 ...lol
***For now before new new ocean guardian is out, LSers is stone age. QS & DS rules! lol
Outdated folks
1. Nuada
2. Thor
3. Atlas
4. Alm Bold Behemoth
5. Alm Sonic S Bird
6. Alm Wise Xmas
7. Alm Sonic Shiva (quite a good card, decent speed & can tank elem att)
8. Alm Sonic Aspara

Potential impact card
1. Alm Sonic Fujin (my observation, can cincai pawn morrig, odin, alm golbez, got damn high HP)
2. Cthulu (i am still finding the buff disable full potential)
3. Poseidon/Ungur (havent experience & encounter much, not sure about it)
4. Alm Sonic Baha (still a very good card, coz can be either phy/elem att, also can tank both phy/elem att, if play correctly still can perform, that is y T. Calvin still use it)
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Acer SE u mean ele build or phys build?

This post has been edited by mcblade: May 2 2013, 09:33 PM
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post May 2 2013, 09:34 PM

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edited. mata juling
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ada la no#9 ...sphinx empress aka SE lorr..

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