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 Lenovo Z400 vs Y400, discussion for purchase!

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[PF] T.J.
post Apr 8 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:42 PM)
Don't mean to douse the enthusiatic discussion on Z400 / 500.
But anyone who plan to buy them need to see this video.
It tell you how to get access to the RAM, HDD, and clean dust ...
The video is 18min.
User has to take out ODD, take out keyboard, before taking out back panel.
Good luck smile.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JojX_vwR7K0
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Reminds me of my old Toshiba M100, wanna upgrade RAM also headache laugh.gif
But I guess its worth it since we only need to do it once tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Apr 8 2013, 03:42 PM)
Reminds me of my old Toshiba M100, wanna upgrade RAM also headache  laugh.gif
But I guess its worth it since we only need to do it once tongue.gif
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no, its twice a year. including the cleaning of fan and heat sink.
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Apr 8 2013, 03:42 PM)
Reminds me of my old Toshiba M100, wanna upgrade RAM also headache  laugh.gif
But I guess its worth it since we only need to do it once tongue.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 04:13 PM)
no, its twice a year. including the cleaning of fan and heat sink.
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Yup, I supposed when users buy it and want to upgrade RAM & SSD, the re-sellers will assist (but I think some of them will hate to do it tongue.gif )

As for those users who have more steady hands, I supposed practice make perfect. Once users take out the keyboard a few times, it should become 2nd nature laugh.gif But still 17 (or was it more? ) screws shakehead.gif laugh.gif

This post has been edited by nexus2238: Apr 8 2013, 04:23 PM
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post Apr 8 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:30 PM)
yeah you wont run low storage on HDD.

but i wonder, where did your SSD come from? laugh.gif
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I was just saying if i get the SSD upgrade tongue.gif


QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:42 PM)
Don't mean to douse the enthusiatic discussion on Z400 / 500.
But anyone who plan to buy them need to see this video.
It tell you how to get access to the RAM, HDD, and clean dust ...
The video is 18min.
User has to take out ODD, take out keyboard, before taking out back panel.
Good luck smile.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JojX_vwR7K0
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Holy shit, how many times do i do that a year? 4 times? I'm going to die trying to remove the components
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post Apr 8 2013, 05:40 PM

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haha....just got the Z400 today

It is indeed a pain...my reseller had to google when I asked him to upgrade mem....damn lot of screws...
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post Apr 8 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 8 2013, 12:01 PM)
Thank you for your answer! Really clears up a few problems!

I personally don't think i'll go for the SSD, maybe i would just stick to i7 eventhough its not advisable, But i will still reconsider on i5.

Do you play any games? How are the benchmarks for the GT740M?
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I play the old need for speed most wanted on Power Saver mode and Intel HD graphics. So not much gaming xD

But I played Need for speed most wanted 2012 on highest video options and didn't lag at all biggrin.gif

Btw, the ram I bought (4gb) was for 120rm and the warranty extension from 2 to 3 years costs 99rm.

And when you're buying the laptop please do check for problems! What I checked was if all the usb ports were working. Later found 2 dead pixels and they didn't replace the screen nor the laptop =/= they said it needs minimum 3 dead pixels to do anything about it >_>

But it's still at the lenovo shop and they're trying to fix it.

Btw, if you're going to travel a lot, I'll tell you that the bag that comes with is it is not that good. It only have two parts, the laptop part and the other part to put in the adopter, books, mouse etc. And only one side part for a water bottle or something. (The free mouse is also average)

You can buy the laptop, additional 4gb memory, warranty extension for 2420 (from the price I calculated) and with the remaining almost 400, you can get a good laptop cooler, mouse (if you need one) and also a strong laptop bag!
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(raeimad @ Apr 8 2013, 06:19 PM)
I play the old need for speed most wanted on Power Saver mode and Intel HD graphics. So not much gaming xD

But I played Need for speed most wanted 2012 on highest video options and didn't lag at all biggrin.gif

Btw, the ram I bought (4gb) was for 120rm and the warranty extension from 2 to 3 years costs 99rm.

And when you're buying the laptop please do check for problems! What I checked was if all the usb ports were working. Later found 2 dead pixels and they didn't replace the screen nor the laptop =/= they said it needs minimum 3 dead pixels to do anything about it >_>

But it's still at the lenovo shop and they're trying to fix it.

Btw, if you're going to travel a lot, I'll tell you that the bag that comes with is it is not that good. It only have two parts, the laptop part and the other part to put in the adopter, books, mouse etc. And only one side part for a water bottle or something. (The free mouse is also average)

You can buy the laptop, additional 4gb memory, warranty extension for 2420 (from the price I calculated) and with the remaining almost 400, you can get a good laptop cooler, mouse (if you need one) and also a strong laptop bag!
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Where did you get your z400 from?
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:58 PM

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can i ask 1 thing?did u guys notice the F1 - F12 buttons? its use for the laptop function keys, i wonder how can we swap it? meaning function keys only enable when we hold down Fn key. its so inconvenient when play dota2 sad.gif
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Apr 8 2013, 03:42 PM)
Reminds me of my old Toshiba M100, wanna upgrade RAM also headache  laugh.gif
But I guess its worth it since we only need to do it once tongue.gif
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oh damn. havent even thought about that yet /:
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(tennytyy @ Apr 8 2013, 08:13 PM)
Where did you get your z400 from?
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midvalley, lenovo outlet. second floor centre court.
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QUOTE(squallz05 @ Apr 8 2013, 08:58 PM)
can i ask 1 thing?did u guys notice the F1 - F12 buttons? its use for the laptop function keys, i wonder how can we swap it? meaning function keys only enable when we hold down Fn key. its so inconvenient when play dota2 sad.gif
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I dont play dota so I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand |:
did you ask the shop where you bought it from? or you can call lenovo and ask.
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(raeimad @ Apr 8 2013, 09:04 PM)
I dont play dota so I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand |:
did you ask the shop where you bought it from? or you can call lenovo and ask.
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sigh...not sure is it the model still new, not much resources on internet. :/
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post Apr 8 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(squallz05 @ Apr 8 2013, 08:58 PM)
can i ask 1 thing?did u guys notice the F1 - F12 buttons? its use for the laptop function keys, i wonder how can we swap it? meaning function keys only enable when we hold down Fn key. its so inconvenient when play dota2 sad.gif
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Found this: (Source:http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/A-M-and-Edge-Series-ThinkCentre/Can-I-use-my-function-keys-as-function-keys/td-p/475431)

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There are two suggestions on this thread which may help.

1) There seems to be a setting in the BIOS..

"In BIOS settings, under config/keyboard & mouse, I have an option labelled "Fn Key Lock". With this option enabled, the F1-F12 keys work as you described - ie changing volume, brightness etc. With this option disabled, the F1-F12 keys work as normal F keys."

2) There may also be a program included with the system that allows some remapping of the keys...

Obviously, preloads can be different between models and depending which OS you are running, but you might check out another customer's observation that "... a small program that's loaded on the PC titled 'Lenovo Slim USB Keyboard'.  Clicked on that program, and it's only function appears to be to allow you to change how the function keys operate."


Try the 2nd method, it should be available icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 10:25 PM

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both have the backlit keyboard right??shifu..please recommend me the best bang for buck model..ASAP!! tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(noorimanyosh @ Apr 8 2013, 10:25 PM)
both have the backlit keyboard right??shifu..please recommend me the best bang for buck model..ASAP!! tongue.gif
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yes, both have the backlit keyboard but Z400 is white coloured. the best bang for buck model is lenovo Z400.
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Apr 8 2013, 10:08 PM)
Found this: (Source:http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/A-M-and-Edge-Series-ThinkCentre/Can-I-use-my-function-keys-as-function-keys/td-p/475431)
Try the 2nd method, it should be available  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i've tried to set on the bios, but unfortunately the bios version doesn support any hotkey mode.
will try 2nd method now. thanks bro!
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 09:26 PM)
yes, both have the backlit keyboard but Z400 is white coloured. the best bang for buck model is lenovo Z400.
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yeah but lenovo z400 got several model right...touch and non touch one...so which is the best for a college student??
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QUOTE(noorimanyosh @ Apr 8 2013, 10:32 PM)
yeah but lenovo z400 got several model right...touch and non touch one...so which is the best for a college student??
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stick with the non touch is better. the touch screen is just a marketing gimmick, and only comes useful under a convertible laptop usage.
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 09:40 PM)
stick with the non touch is better. the touch screen is just a marketing gimmick, and only comes useful under a convertible laptop usage.
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oh yeah...thanks for the enlightment..the non touch models got 3 types right??
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QUOTE(noorimanyosh @ Apr 8 2013, 10:47 PM)
oh yeah...thanks for the enlightment..the non touch models got 3 types right??
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no. the non touch have 2 types only. one is newer with core i5 and GT740M (currently discussed), while another is older with core i7 and GT645M.

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