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 Lenovo Z400 vs Y400, discussion for purchase!

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raymondtong94
post Apr 7 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 08:21 PM)
What is SSD for? A lot of people to me to get it, but what is it?
What?! So means i can't take off the battery like any other laptops can?!  vmad.gif
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SSD is solid state drive. its a hard disk that doesnt have moving components in it, so it helps in boosting the read/write speed.

yes, they have no release clips for battery removal and the battery is located inside the laptop. this issue only apply to ultrabooks and ultrabook size laptops. sweat.gif
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post Apr 7 2013, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 08:21 PM)
What is SSD for? A lot of people to me to get it, but what is it?
What?! So means i can't take off the battery like any other laptops can?!  vmad.gif
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I bought my Z400 a few days back, and I had a bit of problem knowing that the battery is not user removable... But my other choice was the z480, which the shop only had one unit left or something >< (z480 was replaced by z400 and they stopped making the z480). But the keyboard is backlit and the design looks better.

Anyways, this laptop has around 4 hours or normal usage (intel HD4000) usage and around 3 hours when I played Need For Speed Most Wanted 2012 on full graphics (since the resolution is not 1080p, i guess it's not that much heavy? not sure), and the game didn't lag at all. but you need a num pad to play this game >_>

And lemme answer some of your other questions biggrin.gif

(2) I read that both are around the same, but one the 600 series use DDR3 and 700 series use DDR5. But I can't tell the difference about which is better. But I think DDR5 has VRAM which is waaay faster than nor computer RAM.

(4) I bought mine from the Lenovo outlet at Midvalley. 2199rm + 120rm (4gb ram). Friendly staff and did all the work for me (installing a lot of software and registering the antivirus (3 years McAfee). You can get the SSD from there as well. And it is advisable to get the extended warranty biggrin.gif Normally is 2 years warranty. But add 99rm for an extra 1 year, for a total of 3 years. The last day to add the extra warranty is 90 days before your warranty expires. But 3 years is the limit for the warranty....

(5) From the Lenovo outlet, I'm really sure it's official warranty xD

(6) I think the warranty I talked about on (4) is international, you can ask the staff when you buy.

(7) They offer MSOffice from the official outlets. You can from there as well (I think)

(8) McAfee 3 years, I mentioned on (4) xD

(9) Important if you want to work while traveling. Around 4 hours for normal MS Office usage for my new laptop (few days old) and around 3 hours for gaming. There are Powerplan options which you can save battery or use more power~ (And there is a cool dust removal thingy button where you press it, and it increases the fan speed to max I think, I use it to cool down the laptop while playing games xD)

(10) Touch screen makes Win 8 look cooler wink.gif But for normal usage, for me, non-touch screen is good. Prolly better biggrin.gif
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post Apr 7 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(raeimad @ Apr 7 2013, 08:55 PM)
I bought my Z400 a few days back, and I had a bit of problem knowing that the battery is not user removable... But my other choice was the z480, which the shop only had one unit left or something >< (z480 was replaced by z400 and they stopped making the z480). But the keyboard is backlit and the design looks better.
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Nice reviews. rclxms.gif
Wow, 4 cells battery can last for 3 hours of gaming, its amazing. brows.gif
Use dust removal feature to improve cooling is a good idea. laugh.gif
Z400 is a portable budget gamer choice. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by ytlay: Apr 7 2013, 09:44 PM
TSEclipse123
post Apr 7 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 7 2013, 08:27 PM)
SSD is solid state drive. its a hard disk that doesnt have moving components in it, so it helps in boosting the read/write speed.

yes, they have no release clips for battery removal and the battery is located inside the laptop. this issue only apply to ultrabooks and ultrabook size laptops. sweat.gif
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How much does SSD cost? So if i have a 1TB HDD, i change it to 1TB SSD in order to increase speed?

So i have to keep the battery in the laptop for the rest of my life?

and also, are you saying that ultrabooks are having this concept too?


QUOTE(raeimad @ Apr 7 2013, 08:55 PM)
I bought my Z400 a few days back, and I had a bit of problem knowing that the battery is not user removable... But my other choice was the z480, which the shop only had one unit left or something >< (z480 was replaced by z400 and they stopped making the z480). But the keyboard is backlit and the design looks better.

Anyways, this laptop has around 4 hours or normal usage (intel HD4000) usage and around 3 hours when I played Need For Speed Most Wanted 2012 on full graphics (since the resolution is not 1080p, i guess it's not that much heavy? not sure), and the game didn't lag at all. but you need a num pad to play this game >_>

And lemme answer some of your other questions  biggrin.gif

(2) I read that both are around the same, but one the 600 series use DDR3 and 700 series use DDR5. But I can't tell the difference about which is better. But I think DDR5 has VRAM which is waaay faster than nor computer RAM.

(4) I bought mine from the Lenovo outlet at Midvalley. 2199rm + 120rm (4gb ram). Friendly staff and did all the work for me (installing a lot of software and registering the antivirus (3 years McAfee). You can get the SSD from there as well. And it is advisable to get the extended warranty biggrin.gif Normally is 2 years warranty. But add 99rm for an extra 1 year, for a total of 3 years. The last day to add the extra warranty is 90 days before your warranty expires. But 3 years is the limit for the warranty....

(5) From the Lenovo outlet, I'm really sure it's official warranty xD

(6) I think the warranty I talked about on (4) is international, you can ask the staff when you buy.

(7) They offer MSOffice from the official outlets. You can from there as well (I think)

(8) McAfee 3 years, I mentioned on (4) xD

(9) Important if you want to work while traveling. Around 4 hours for normal MS Office usage for my new laptop (few days old) and around 3 hours for gaming. There are Powerplan options which you can save battery or use more power~ (And there is a cool dust removal thingy button where you press it, and it increases the fan speed to max I think, I use it to cool down the laptop while playing games xD)

(10) Touch screen makes Win 8 look cooler wink.gif But for normal usage, for me, non-touch screen is good. Prolly better biggrin.gif
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So did you manage to remove the battery yourself? Or do i have to keep it in it for the rest of my life?

Since you bought the laptop, is there any way to turn off graphics and turn on power saving mode in order for battery life to last longer? That's what the promoter told me today if i want to save battery.

(2) yupe, DDR 5 is some sort faster, but i don't think there are any significant difference.

(4) So your specs are the i5 with 8GB RAM? Did you get the SSD? If you did, how much was it?

(9) Does the powerplan option really save a lot of battery while doing MS office work? Can it be an increase from 4 hours to 5?

There's a dust removal button? Like to remove dust IN the laptop? I didn't know.

and an additional question: What cooling pads do you recommend?
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QUOTE(ytlay @ Apr 7 2013, 09:42 PM)
Nice reviews.  rclxms.gif
Wow, 4 cells battery can last for 3 hours of gaming, its amazing.  brows.gif
Use dust removal feature to improve cooling is a good idea.  laugh.gif
Z400 is a portable budget gamer choice.  biggrin.gif
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Hey ytlay, do you know anything about cooling pads?

This post has been edited by Eclipse123: Apr 7 2013, 11:05 PM
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post Apr 7 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:03 PM)
How much does SSD cost? So if i have a 1TB HDD, i change it to 1TB SSD in order to increase speed?

So i have to keep the battery in the laptop for the rest of my life?

and also, are you saying that ultrabooks are having this concept too?
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SSD is expensive yo. assume 120GB = RM330. and so far, 1TB SSD is not yet available yet in 2.5" form.

yes, you have to keep the battery in the laptop for the rest of your life but it is replaceable. so dont worry.

ultrabooks are having this concept too. even hybrid laptops are like that. so some manufacturers released extended battery cell to improve battery life. the lenovo ideapad z series is an ultrabook like laptop but they are heavier compared to a real ultrabook.
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Kingsoft? Uninstall and instsll microsoft office...easy as ABC...want to get full version? Google brows.gif
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:04 PM)
Hey ytlay, do you know anything about cooling pads?
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Use a u2 cooling pad + dust removal button to turbo boost the fan speed will maximize the laptop cooling. biggrin.gif



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post Apr 7 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:18 PM)
SSD is expensive yo. assume 120GB = RM330. and so far, 1TB SSD is not yet available yet in 2.5" form.

yes, you have to keep the battery in the laptop for the rest of your life but it is replaceable. so dont worry.

ultrabooks are having this concept too. even hybrid laptops are like that. so some manufacturers released extended battery cell to improve battery life. the lenovo ideapad z series is an ultrabook like laptop but they are heavier compared to a real ultrabook.
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I still don't get the idea of SSD. So do i replace my HDD with SSD? or is SSD just an extra component? Will it be a significant difference?


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QUOTE(ytlay @ Apr 7 2013, 11:46 PM)
Use a u2 cooling pad + dust removal button to turbo boost the fan speed will maximize the laptop cooling.  biggrin.gif
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Are you talking about this? http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6612

How much does it cost in Malaysia?
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post Apr 7 2013, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ytlay @ Apr 7 2013, 11:46 PM)
Use a u2 cooling pad + dust removal button to turbo boost the fan speed will maximize the laptop cooling.  biggrin.gif
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bro,where u find the dust remove button?haha
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post Apr 8 2013, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:49 PM)
I still don't get the idea of SSD. So do i replace my HDD with SSD? or is SSD just an extra component? Will it be a significant difference?
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SSD is a solid state drive. you are not necessary to replace HDD with SSD as SSD is an extra only. upgrading to SSD depends on the owner's decision whether now or in the future. and yes, there will a significant difference in performance, HDD is slower compared to SSD but SSD is more expensive than HDD.
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:51 PM)
Are you talking about this? http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6612

How much does it cost in Malaysia?
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CM u2 cost around RM60. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(squallz05 @ Apr 7 2013, 11:58 PM)
bro,where u find the dust remove button?haha
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check it with the Z400 owner~ raeimad. biggrin.gif
You can also try to check in Lenovo energy management software.



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post Apr 8 2013, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 12:09 AM)
SSD is a solid state drive. you are not necessary to replace HDD with SSD as SSD is an extra only. upgrading to SSD depends on the owner's decision whether now or in the future. and yes, there will a significant difference in performance, HDD is slower compared to SSD but SSD is more expensive than HDD.
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So even if i dont upgrade now, i have to do it in the future?

If i were to get SSD, what SSD should i get?
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:19 AM)
So even if i dont upgrade now, i have to do it in the future?

If i were to get SSD, what SSD should i get?
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not necessary. like i said, its an extra. icon_rolleyes.gif

if you wanted to upgrade to SSD, get Intel, the lowest RMA rate record holder. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:27 AM)
not necessary. like i said, its an extra. icon_rolleyes.gif

if you wanted to upgrade to SSD, get Intel,  the lowest RMA rate record holder. biggrin.gif
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hahaha, so it's just a luxury?

Oh mai, more and more terms. What is RMA?

So even SSD has different brands? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Eclipse123 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:31 AM)
hahaha, so it's just a luxury?

Oh mai, more and more terms. What is RMA?

So even SSD has different brands?  rclxub.gif
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not consider as luxury but high performance upgrade only. (not really necessary to upgrade the HDD to SSD.)

RMA - Return Merchandise Authorization, a process which is to claim the reseller/retailer/manufacturer to replace the product which turns out to be defective after purchase.

yes, SSD has different brands. so far, there is OCZ, Plextor, Samsung, Kingston, Crucial, Sandisk and more.

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Apr 8 2013, 01:36 AM)
not consider as luxury but high performance upgrade only. (not really necessary to upgrade the HDD to SSD.)

RMA - Return Merchandise Authorization, a process which is to claim the reseller/retailer/manufacturer to replace the product which turns out to be defective after purchase.

yes, SSD has different brands. so far, there is OCZ, Plextor, Samsung, Kingston, Crucial, Sandisk and more.
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Oh my, i don't think i'm going to get it.

But, if i were to get SSD, i should get Intel? o_o
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QUOTE(ytlay @ Apr 8 2013, 12:44 AM)
check it with the Z400 owner~ raeimad.  biggrin.gif
You can also try to check in Lenovo energy management software.
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There isn't any physical button, sorry xD
Yeah, it's on the Energy Management area, here's a screenshot.Attached Image

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