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 Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R tires, brand new just released in Japan

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post Nov 23 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 23 2013, 09:23 AM)
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fully agree with your views/opinions.

although just one thing i'd like to point out, even on the larger sizes, most semi slick brands (not the bigger boys like dunlop/bfg/yokohama/bridgestone/pirelli etc) are STILL cheaper than most extreme performance from the major makers sad.gif

don't know how the rest of the world does it, but Japan has this thing to market their top of the line/flagship at VERY premium prices, at very limited supply (to create a "high demand" ) and see, it sells and it gets people wanting for more because it is "limited".

no reason to lower pricing when everyone sells around the same price and people are still buying it.
the only reason why the ad08r is much lower in price probably due to natural (and probably cheaper) ingredient - orange oil.
and perhaps they want to go really aggressive in gaining momentum slipped during the ad07/ad08 era. they are REALLY aggressive in marketing all around the world, particularly japan/SEA/Australia regions with numerous invitations to bloggers/media etc to experience/review their tires. (which is unheard of on other makers)

to us consumers - it'd only mean good as the competition gets tougher. we get better tires for cheaper price wink.gif
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post Nov 23 2013, 02:59 PM

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Agree, especially the last paragraph.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 23 2013, 09:36 AM)
fully agree with your views/opinions.

although just one thing i'd like to point out, even on the larger sizes, most semi slick brands (not the bigger boys like dunlop/bfg/yokohama/bridgestone/pirelli etc) are STILL cheaper than most extreme performance from the major makers sad.gif

don't know how the rest of the world does it, but Japan has this thing to market their top of the line/flagship at VERY premium prices, at very limited supply (to create a "high demand" ) and see, it sells and it gets people wanting for more because it is "limited".

no reason to lower pricing when everyone sells around the same price and people are still buying it.
the only reason why the ad08r is much lower in price probably due to natural (and probably cheaper) ingredient - orange oil.
and perhaps they want to go really aggressive in gaining momentum slipped during the ad07/ad08 era. they are REALLY aggressive in marketing all around the world, particularly japan/SEA/Australia regions with numerous invitations to bloggers/media etc to experience/review their tires. (which is unheard of on other makers)

to us consumers - it'd only mean good as the competition gets tougher. we get better tires for cheaper price wink.gif
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Kinda surprised at AD08R pricing
If only Dunlop ZII,Bridgestone RE11A and BF Goodrich Rival have same fate
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I will let the results speak for itself. Though I am still shy from my target of 2.40s, but using this tyres and improvising my lines and know how of track driving. Previously on Achilles 123S, my personal best was 2.47. Like I say, just a tyre change would not shave that 6 seconds off, but improvements was made on other things. Base on my 2.41 run, I was 30mm short of wheelbase diameter as I removed my 20mm spacers and was running on a 235 width tyres. Objectively, I would prefer a 245 width tyres but there was none in stock - so beggars cant be choosers.

For short, this tyres hold up to my requirements especially when pushed hard. I have even tried to push the tyres to the extent I was fighting the tyre grip with steering in an understeer condition and surprisingly it held up and was beyond my expectations - especially turn 15 when I WOT before clipping the apex. Was fun and an eye opening experience, but I need more track time for data logging.
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QUOTE(phobian @ Dec 26 2013, 03:14 AM)
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QUOTE(phobian @ Dec 26 2013, 03:14 AM)
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I will let the results speak for itself. Though I am still shy from my target of 2.40s, but using this tyres and improvising my lines and know how of track driving. Previously on Achilles 123S, my personal best was 2.47. Like I say, just a tyre change would not shave that 6 seconds off, but improvements was made on other things. Base on my 2.41 run, I was 30mm short of wheelbase diameter as I removed my 20mm spacers and was running on a 235 width tyres. Objectively, I would prefer a 245 width tyres but there was none in stock - so beggars cant be choosers.

For short, this tyres hold up to my requirements especially when pushed hard. I have even tried to push the tyres to the extent I was fighting the tyre grip with steering in an understeer condition and surprisingly it held up and was beyond my expectations - especially turn 15 when I WOT before clipping the apex. Was fun and an eye opening experience, but I need more track time for data logging.
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What is the setup/mod of your EVO X??
2:41 on narrower tyre than stock is thumbup.gif
Fastest i have seen on street tyre is 2:37 ish so you are not that far off

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post Dec 26 2013, 07:49 PM

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how much is 17 215 45 AD08R
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QUOTE(phobian @ Dec 26 2013, 03:14 AM)
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I will let the results speak for itself. Though I am still shy from my target of 2.40s, but using this tyres and improvising my lines and know how of track driving. Previously on Achilles 123S, my personal best was 2.47. Like I say, just a tyre change would not shave that 6 seconds off, but improvements was made on other things. Base on my 2.41 run, I was 30mm short of wheelbase diameter as I removed my 20mm spacers and was running on a 235 width tyres. Objectively, I would prefer a 245 width tyres but there was none in stock - so beggars cant be choosers.

For short, this tyres hold up to my requirements especially when pushed hard. I have even tried to push the tyres to the extent I was fighting the tyre grip with steering in an understeer condition and surprisingly it held up and was beyond my expectations - especially turn 15 when I WOT before clipping the apex. Was fun and an eye opening experience, but I need more track time for data logging.
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post Dec 28 2013, 12:18 PM

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after reading all the pages, is it safe to say that this tires can generally last for 15k t0 20k km only?
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QUOTE(gunh @ Dec 28 2013, 12:18 PM)
after reading all the pages, is it safe to say that this tires can generally last for 15k t0 20k km only?
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depending on how you drive/car performance (eg: high powered all wheel drives), it could potentially be less
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looks like really cannot afford this rubber as daily ride use...
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QUOTE(gunh @ Dec 30 2013, 08:31 AM)
looks like really cannot afford this rubber as daily ride use...
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bro, extreme performance tire, you everyday extreme? lol
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Dec 26 2013, 03:31 PM)
What is the setup/mod of your EVO X??
2:41 on narrower tyre than stock is  thumbup.gif
Fastest i have seen on street tyre is 2:37 ish so you are not that far off
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Bone stock except for exhaust (manifold onwards) and lowered dress up springs. ECU remap to run using RON95.

I was pacing with a R35 GTR hence made many mistakes and learned a lot of things which I did not notice, and achieving optimum timing of 2.38 as per current car's status is possible. One more track time for data logging and hopefully I can achieve the optimum timing before I decide to move to my next line of mods and even achievement of time. But definitely, I am sticking to this tyres!
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unless you get a 2nd sets of rims to fit this rubber lo. Then every time want to go track or tounge, change to this tires. Which is quite hassle.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 30 2013, 10:00 AM)
bro, extreme performance tire, you everyday extreme? lol
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QUOTE(gunh @ Jan 2 2014, 10:56 AM)
unless you get a 2nd sets of rims to fit this rubber lo.  Then every time want to go track or tounge, change to this tires.  Which is quite hassle.
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that's what i do. some people just maintain 1 set of wheels since they tend to be more aggressive driver and/or their regular mileage not high.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 20 2014, 01:11 AM)
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ur review too details

many ppl will reply " AGREE WITH Quazacolt"
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Fitted AD08R on my Satria Neo CPS, need to downsize from 205/50/R16 to 205/50/R15 due to unavailability of stock for 16" cry.gif . But I got good deal for AD08R tires with 15" Advanti rim so I just proceed to get the taste of AD08R. I've been using these tyres for about 5 days covering the distance of 1000 km. My car is my daily ride to work and never been driven in track. I have changed the suspension to Kayaba RS adjustable suspension and using Project U brake pads, cross drilled slotted disc brakes and steel braided brake hose. So my impression will be based on this condition.

Side view of Neo CPS with 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
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Highway drive (and some uphill cornering) KL-Karak-Temerloh

Right after fitting the new set of wheels and tyres, I drove my car back to my home in Terengganu (I am working here) and it was raining heavily in Shah Alam. The car did not aquaplane when driven at speed of 80-100 km/h. So I can say the grip is on par with my previous Toyo T1Rs which is above average but still lags a bit behind from Michelin PS3 (fitted on my wife's Gen2 CPS). Overall, the grip is not disappointing considering this tyre is more focused on the dry grip.

Satria Neo CPS fitted with 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
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As I drove towards Gombak, the rain subsided. When I passed the Gombak toll gate, the road is still damp but I have started to feel the improvement. At this point, I am still trying to adapt my driving with the new tyres so I am still hesitating to push the tyres to the limit. But as I clear one corner to another, AD08R is starting to 'correct' my instinct when clearing bends in Karak. It is yearning for more! Since the sidewalls are harder than T1R, I can take the corner more confidently as I feel less flexing compared to the previous ones. Although I did not try to test the maximum speed I can do at a particular bends (since got my wife beside me) I can assure that negotiating a bend is way easier than before at the same speed (140-160 km/h). At this point, I started to understand the characteristics of this tyre, it gives more grip when you press more on the accelerator. A really scary experience I must say since the tyres are asking you to put trust on them.

Normal roads (Temerloh-Kuantan-Kerteh)

Upon arriving in Temerloh, I decided to take the normal road to Kerteh. I want to test how it behave in varying condition of normal road. There are some stretches that have old tarmac and loose but this AD08R perform vey well. Since I drive aggressively (a lot of late brakings), it does not even shown any hesitation. Grip on loose tarmacs is not a problem, cornering too, as long as you do not let go of the accelerator. It will give the grip you want. As for braking, the tyres does not sway to the left or right, it brakes in precision and the braking distance is noticeably shorter.

Close up of 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
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Daily drive to work

Since I drive sensibly on my journey to work, I will comment more on the noise level. Understanding of the tyres in this category is significantly noisier than comfort tyres, I see this as a reasonable trade off. BUT, I feel AD08R is a lot quieter than Toyo T1R (used two sets already). And when some car provoked me on my journey to or back from work, I can easily beat them in the corner. I love it as it can provide me the grip whenever I need it while not being impractical for daily use. So to sum up, I put my rating of the tyres I have used before to compare with AD08R.

Yokohama AD08R

Dry grip : 9/10
Wet grip : 7/10
Braking : 9/10
Noise : 8/10 (more is quieter)

Toyo T1R

Dry grip : 8/10
Wet grip : 7/10
Braking : 7/10
Noise : 6/10 (more is quieter)

Hope my noob review helps you to inspire. As Quazacolt said to me, AD08R is the tyre that you should try at least once in your driving life due to excitement and phenomenal characteristic it offer brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif It is good for somebody who seeks for near perfect dry grip but at the same time want it to perform above average in wet. Of course, if you want super grip on dry, get a slick tyre thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by afiqms: May 20 2014, 05:48 PM
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Fitted AD08R on my Satria Neo CPS, need to downsize from 205/50/R16 to 205/50/R15 due to unavailability of stock for 16"  cry.gif . But I got good deal for AD08R tires with 15" Advanti rim so I just proceed to get the taste of AD08R. I've been using these tyres for about 5 days covering the distance of 1000 km. My car is my daily ride to work and never been driven in track. I have changed the suspension to Kayaba RS adjustable suspension and using Project U brake pads, cross drilled slotted disc brakes and steel braided brake hose. So my impression will be based on this condition.

Side view of Neo CPS with 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
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Highway drive (and some uphill cornering) KL-Karak-Temerloh

Right after fitting the new set of wheels and tyres, I drove my car back to my home in Terengganu (I am working here) and it was raining heavily in Shah Alam. The car did not aquaplane when driven at speed of 80-100 km/h. So I can say the grip is on par with my previous Toyo T1Rs which is above average but still lags a bit behind from Michelin PS3 (fitted on my wife's Gen2 CPS). Overall, the grip is not disappointing considering this tyre is more focused on the dry grip.

Satria Neo CPS fitted with 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


As I drove towards Gombak, the rain subsided. When I passed the Gombak toll gate, the road is still damp but I have started to feel the improvement. At this point, I am still trying to adapt my driving with the new tyres so I am still hesitating to push the tyres to the limit. But as I clear one corner to another, AD08R is starting to 'correct' my instinct when clearing bends in Karak. It is yearning for more! Since the sidewalls are harder than T1R, I can take the corner more confidently as I feel less flexing compared to the previous ones. Although I did not try to test the maximum speed I can do at a particular bends (since got my wife beside me) I can assure that negotiating a bend is way easier than before at the same speed (140-160 km/h). At this point, I started to understand the characteristics of this tyre, it gives more grip when you press more on the accelerator. A really scary experience I must say since the tyres are asking you to put trust on them.

Normal roads (Temerloh-Kuantan-Kerteh)

Upon arriving in Temerloh, I decided to take the normal road to Kerteh. I want to test how it behave in varying condition of normal road. There are some stretches that have old tarmac and loose but this AD08R perform vey well. Since I drive aggressively (a lot of late brakings), it does not even shown any hesitation. Grip on loose tarmacs is not a problem, cornering too, as long as you do not let go of the accelerator. It will give the grip you want. As for braking, the tyres does not sway to the left or right, it brakes in precision and the braking distance is noticeably shorter.

Close up of 15" Advanti rim + 205/50/R15 Yokohama AD08R
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Daily drive to work

Since I drive sensibly on my journey to work, I will comment more on the noise level. Understanding of the tyres in this category is significantly noisier than comfort tyres, I see this as a reasonable trade off. BUT, I feel AD08R is a lot quieter than Toyo T1R (used two sets already). And when some car provoked me on my journey to or back from work, I can easily beat them in the corner. I love it as it can provide me the grip whenever I need it while not being impractical for daily use. So to sum up, I put my rating of the tyres I have used before to compare with AD08R.

Yokohama AD08R

Dry grip : 9/10
Wet grip : 7/10
Braking : 9/10
Noise : 8/10 (more is quieter)

Toyo T1R

Dry grip : 8/10
Wet grip : 7/10
Braking : 7/10
Noise : 6/10 (more is quieter)

Hope my noob review helps you to inspire. As Quazacolt said to me, AD08R is the tyre that you should try at least once in your driving life due to excitement and phenomenal characteristic it offer  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif It is good for somebody who seeks for near perfect dry grip but at the same time want it to perform above average in wet. Of course, if you want super grip on dry, get a slick tyre thumbup.gif
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Great review.

I am currently using the Yokohama A13C that came stock with my Suzuki SS and am looking ahead for replacement tires. Can any sifu advise me on the character of the AD08R as compared to the A13C.

Thanks in advance.

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QUOTE(uss28 @ May 20 2014, 10:03 PM)
Great review.

I am currently using the Yokohama A13C that came stock with my Suzuki SS and am looking ahead for replacement tires. Can any sifu advise me on the character of the AD08R as compared to the A13C.

Thanks in advance.
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If can put both tyres at scale 1-5 (higher the better) A13C is 2 and AD08R is 4. The gap is huge. You will surely experience the improvement but you need to drive hard to extract the true potential of this tyre. If you are the kind of laid back driver, you won't feel the benefit of using this tyre very much, you might think it is waste of money. But if you are going to push your car to the limit, this tyre can bring you further.

But it takes more than tyre to improve handling. Suspension and brakes need to be factored in too. So, it is your choice. If money is not a concern, try this tyre.

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