QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 4 2013, 08:42 PM)
I based my experience on the legendary AD07, which the AD08R has replaced...used 3 sets...I also used 2 sets of PS3.
Those reviews are good as a reference...but as I'm not newbies at performance tires, It should be remembered, those tires are new, or probably scrub. I use to think how even Hankook can produce so good UHP tires...and even bought them to try out...when new it was superb when new, exactly like the reviews...but after 20K KM....performance drop like fall down from a cliff
Extreme performance use the mainly the compound and deeper groove for the wets, unlike most other tires that rely mostly on the thread design and less of the compound
But after a while, when the grooves are thinner, extreme tires simply cannot be driven fast without dangering everyone.
But to say AD08R performs better than PS3 in the wets is really pushing it to far, maybe when it is new...but after 10K KM is totally another story
umm, you do know that when top of the line gets replaced typically a lot of changes will be made, right? and you're basing your ad07 experience as rebuttal?
somemore it's technically TWO generations of replacement (ad07 > ad08 > ad08r), where by even the ad08r is somewhat different compared to the ad08, where tirerack's reviews/benchmark echoes: wet wasn't good on the 08, but it all changed with the new compound which as their orange oil formula in it
it is to the point where dry traction is toned down where by i KNOW of ACTUAL USERS IRL that are NOT satisfied with the dry performance on track (sepang, btw)
of course, he factored in pricing which isn't exactly all too fair since for the same price you can get semi slicks such as R888 which will destroy the ad08r that isn't even in the same category (A048/A050 if you want a fair comparison, or Toyo's R1R against ad08r)
at this point i can't give you the answer for post 10k km since my tire usage is only in the 5-7k km range (i swap my tires on and off for my daily ride comfort tires) been using them since august.
maybe after my tires are definitely >10k km and/or at least 50% worn, and there's open track days in wet/raining condition i'll DEFINITELY write back