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felix83
post Nov 11 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(tysher5316 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:15 PM)
hi, may i know anyone done the lasik at ISEC (mid valley) or Sun eye laser center? Anyone know these 2 center that i mentioned?
Between, may i know how much it cost for the examination at the Optimax? smile.gif
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Not sure about the 2 centers you mention but for Optimax - the FULL examination is RM120



QUOTE(eksk @ Oct 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
For those who have undergone Lasik has myopia ever come back? an aunt of mine did it more than 10 years ago but now she says her myopia is coming back...
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where did your aunt do her Lasik ?

as i know both Optimax and Vista centre provide lifetime re-enhancement surgery in the case that your myopia(short-sightedness) returns ...

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post Nov 11 2009, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(eksk @ Oct 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
For those who have undergone Lasik has myopia ever come back? an aunt of mine did it more than 10 years ago but now she says her myopia is coming back...
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That is possible.
It is not a recurrence but rather a continuation of the condition.
Just redo the lasik.

Check with the lasik center if they cover it under warranty (i think they'll redo FOC if power increase more than 200).
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post Nov 11 2009, 05:13 PM

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huhu.
actually after SPM,i will do ths lasik operation...
coz i want be a pilot...
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post Nov 11 2009, 07:23 PM

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don't think you guys shud do tho. If fail u jadi buta. Be glad for wht you have now.
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:33 PM

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The minimum age to be eligible for this surgery is 18 right? My aunt has night-blindness and cant really drive at night after doing it.
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post Nov 11 2009, 10:58 PM

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i've done mine while i was 23 years old. cost about 2.8k in puchong. possibility to get blind is quite low, no worries
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post Nov 12 2009, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:23 PM)
don't think you guys shud do tho. If fail u jadi buta. Be glad for wht you have now.
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Well I among million others did it anyway.
ignoring all these paranoid statements.
I'm not saying the risk isn't there, just take a look at the rate of failure & rate of blindness caused by lasik operation
Failure rate is very low. Even if it fails, usually the correction is incomplete.

QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 11 2009, 10:33 PM)
The minimum age to be eligible for this surgery is 18 right? My aunt has night-blindness and cant really drive at night after doing it.
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I do feel the light points at night seem a little brighter which is a known side effect.
But after a week, that didn't bother me at all.

The advantage is undeniable & worth taking the risk.

QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Nov 11 2009, 10:58 PM)
i've done mine while i was 23 years old. cost about 2.8k in puchong. possibility to get blind is quite low, no worries
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Failure rate is very low.
Getting blind is extremely rare.
I haven't heard anyone in Malaysia getting blind due to the operation.
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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 11 2009, 05:01 PM)
Well I among million others did it anyway.
ignoring all these paranoid statements.
I'm not saying the risk isn't there, just take a look at the rate of failure & rate of blindness caused by lasik operation
Failure rate is very low. Even if it fails, usually the correction is incomplete.
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Well, its laser and your eyes are very important, really, even tho risks are low, who knows you're one of those 'lucky' person who got it? not cursing but better be safe than sorry.

However there's a natural way to cure shortsightedness. I still remember when I was 12, my teacher, who wore a super thick glasses, don't need glasses anymore. Me and my friends did ask her how she did it. She told me she eats carrot everyday, look at green trees and grasses everyday, rest her eyes, does not strain her eyes etc.

You guys can try that tho, it works on her, why not you?
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
Well, its laser and your eyes are very important, really, even tho risks are low, who knows you're one of those 'lucky' person who got it? not cursing but better be safe than sorry.

However there's a natural way to cure shortsightedness. I still remember when I was 12, my teacher, who wore a super thick glasses, don't need glasses anymore. Me and my friends did ask her how she did it. She told me she eats carrot everyday, look at green trees and grasses everyday, rest her eyes, does not strain her eyes etc.

You guys can try that tho, it works on her, why not you?
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I'm a very business minded person (i think)
Taking calculated risks is what I do all day long.
Driving on the road is far more dangerous than doing lasik. Just look for the statistics.
Yes our eyes are very important but our life is much more important. Yet just about everyone drive a car.
I took a lot of risks in my life & lasik is one I categorized as among the least risky.

Interesting what your teacher did.
I like to see some study paper on clinical trials or something if u don't mind looking up for me.
Coz this is the 1st time I heard someone cured from shortsightedness without lasik or other surgery.
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 12 2009, 07:14 AM)
I'm a very business minded person (i think)
Taking calculated risks is what I do all day long.
Driving on the road is far more dangerous than doing lasik. Just look for the statistics.
Yes our eyes are very important but our life is much more important. Yet just about everyone drive a car.
I took a lot of risks in my life & lasik is one I categorized as among the least risky.

Interesting what your teacher did.
I like to see some study paper on clinical trials or something if u don't mind looking up for me.
Coz this is the 1st time I heard someone cured from shortsightedness without lasik or other surgery.
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Sif you need to drive to look at trees and grasses right? around your house don't have? plus you're driving to work everyday, you can still look at trees while you're driving. Sif I'm asking them to drive just to look at trees?

I did not say the word cured did i? smile.gif I was saying her eyesight got better, never said it was cured. Try googling what carrot can actually help for your eyes and green stuff too. Since I was 6 I knew youu always look at green stuff it actually helps your eyes. Don't tell me you're <insert your age here> and you don;t know? rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
Well, its laser and your eyes are very important, really, even tho risks are low, who knows you're one of those 'lucky' person who got it? not cursing but better be safe than sorry.

However there's a natural way to cure shortsightedness. I still remember when I was 12, my teacher, who wore a super thick glasses, don't need glasses anymore. Me and my friends did ask her how she did it. She told me she eats carrot everyday, look at green trees and grasses everyday, rest her eyes, does not strain her eyes etc.

You guys can try that tho, it works on her, why not you?
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imo, i think what your teacher told you was just a nice way of saying she got contacts.... to this day there is a lot of research for techniques to cure vision, so far lasik has the highest rate of corrective surgery, some people use the glasses with the lobang in it and those eye machines that flex and relax your eye muscles, most people using those will get results of reducing their power, but not to completely go without glasses.

as for lasik surgery, the complications that come from the surgery are usually after the surgery, there is a few days that the patient needs to take care of their eyes while it heals, its at this time that complications occur. not the actual laser burning through the eye.
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:47 PM

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super thick glasses -> don't need glasses anymore = cured to me
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sigh, you must thank God that I'm in a nothing to do mood today rolleyes.gif

Carrots:
http://healthmad.com/health/do-carrots-imp...-your-eyesight/

Carrots and green stuff:
http://www.booksie.com/non-fiction/short_s...e-your-eyesight

Ways to Improve Your Eyesight


1. Eat lots of carrots, and when i mean lots, i mean heaps. A carrot a day keeps the optometrist away. Your carrot should be boiled and be about 7 and a half inches long.

2. Look at the colour green a lot. Green is good for your eyes so it is especially good you look outside when you are driving through the country, or driving through a forest.

3. Eating either a boiled chicken liver or pork liver a WEEK is good for you. Liver contains a lot of vitamin a, so eating it once a week is enough.

4. When you are reading, always keep the book, newspaper or computer screen at least 30 centimetres away. This ensures your eyes don't get any worse.

5. Don't read, watch tv, or go on the computer for more than 45 minutes at a time. You need to take a break every half hour to 45 minutes. Your break should be doing something physical, as so your eyes can rest. This could be just walking around, talking to your siblings, or taking the rubbish out and doing other household chores. This is so your eyes won't get tired.


Now mr.whatever your name is, are you satisfied? Can't belive I knew it at 6 and you're <insert your age here> you still dunno.

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post Nov 12 2009, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 12 2009, 07:47 AM)
super thick glasses -> don't need glasses anymore = cured to me
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Define cure. 0? Well don't think so.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 12 2009, 07:46 AM)
imo, i think what your teacher told you was just a nice way of saying she got contacts.... to this day there is a lot of research for techniques to cure vision, so far lasik has the highest rate of corrective surgery, some people use the glasses with the lobang in it and those eye machines that flex and relax your eye muscles, most people using those will get results of reducing their power, but not to completely go without glasses.

as for lasik surgery, the complications that come from the surgery are usually after the surgery, there is a few days that the patient needs to take care of their eyes while it heals, its at this time that complications occur. not the actual laser burning through the eye.
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IMO, you will know if its contacts. its very obvious. check my above post.

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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 12 2009, 03:47 PM)
super thick glasses -> don't need glasses anymore = cured to me
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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:48 PM)
Define cure. 0? Well don't think so.
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id have to agree with caerulln here.... think about what you said...

1. your teacher had super thick glasses... you mentioned this.
2. your teacher no longer wears glasses... you mentioned this.

why doesnt she wear glasses?

3. because she eats carrots and looks at green things... you mentioned this.


sounds like a cure for bad vision to me.


QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:49 PM)
IMO, you will know if its contacts. its very obvious. check my above post.
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you shouldnt eat "heaps" of carrots... you get a skin problem called carotenemia.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1104368-overview
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:47 PM)
sigh, you must thank God that I'm in a nothing to do mood today  rolleyes.gif

Carrots:
http://healthmad.com/health/do-carrots-imp...-your-eyesight/

Carrots and green stuff:
http://www.booksie.com/non-fiction/short_s...e-your-eyesight

Ways to Improve Your Eyesight


1. Eat lots of carrots, and when i mean lots, i mean heaps. A carrot a day keeps the optometrist away. Your carrot should be boiled and be about 7 and a half inches long.

2. Look at the colour green a lot. Green is good for your eyes so it is especially good you look outside when you are driving through the country, or driving through a forest.

3. Eating either a boiled chicken liver or pork liver a WEEK is good for you. Liver contains a lot of vitamin a, so eating it once a week is enough.

4. When you are reading, always keep the book, newspaper or computer screen at least 30 centimetres away. This ensures your eyes don't get any worse.

5. Don't read, watch tv, or go on the computer for more than 45 minutes at a time. You need to take a break every half hour to 45 minutes. Your break should be doing something physical, as so your eyes can rest. This could be just walking around, talking to your siblings, or taking the rubbish out and doing other household chores. This is so your eyes won't get tired.
Now mr.whatever your name is, are you satisfy? Can't belive I knew it at 6 and you're <insert your age here> you still dunno.
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I can't believe at 21, you still don't know how to differentiate published study paper from articles on website pages.
Mythbuster line: Everything on the web must be true.

Yes those things that they suggested is good & might help our vision.
What I want to know is the hard data. The numbers please.
I can provide numbers & data on lasik if u want smile.gif

btw, I'm tired of people using my words against me.
dont ask me for definition of what i said. U know what i meant.
As I said, to me, no need to use glasses (or contacts) is cured already.

just so u know, I'm not a medical student but I am studying something slightly related (what am i doing here. exam is next week!)
So i do know a little bit of stuff & I definitely know how a study paper look like smile.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 12 2009, 07:55 AM)
id have to agree with caerulln here.... think about what you said...

1. your teacher had super thick glasses... you mentioned this.
2. your teacher no longer wears glasses... you mentioned this.

why doesnt she wear glasses?

3. because she eats carrots and looks at green things... you mentioned this.
sounds like a cure for bad vision to me.
you shouldnt eat "heaps" of carrots... you get a skin problem called carotenemia.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1104368-overview
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doh.gif are you guys really that shallow? Cured = 0, now tell me, who's eyesight is 0? Anyway if I'm not mistaken, your power below 100 no need to wear glasses.

3 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif Seriously, I never said eat carrots every minute did I? everything have its boundries incase you don't know that. Such as working is good you can earn money thru working but takkan you work 24/7 daily? right? big FACEPALM for you.
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u really are a troll.

This is pointless.
I'm stopping this & I'm dragging us back to topic.
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QUOTE(caerulln @ Nov 12 2009, 07:58 AM)
I can't believe at 21, you still don't know how to differentiate published study paper from articles on website pages.
Mythbuster line: Everything on the web must be true.

Yes those things that they suggested is good & might help our vision.
What I want to know is the hard data. The numbers please.
I can provide numbers & data on lasik if u want smile.gif

btw, I'm tired of people using my words against me.
dont ask me for definition of what i said. U know what i meant.
As I said, to me, no need to use glasses (or contacts) is cured already.

just so u know, I'm not a medical student but I am studying something slightly related (what am i doing here. exam is next week!)
So i do know a little bit of stuff & I definitely know how a study paper look like smile.gif
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I never said I was 21 laugh.gif
You just can't face the facts that its proven carrots can help improve eyesight, not just might.
Yeah do provide data and numbers. I was just saying its a risk on lasik and you can improve it naturally w/o risking.

LOL. Means still shortsighted only at 50 etc la? I said can improve, and cured MEANS 0. Can improve till 50 so why not? sif got anyone is t 0 mark.

Just to let u know I'm not a medical student but I'm also studying something slightly related. And I know you're just only 17 laugh.gif
Good luck in SPM.

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