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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post Feb 21 2018, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(neooren @ Feb 20 2018, 05:27 PM)
just got approval for my loan from CIMBI..interest 4.55%
good rate?
should I go all-out send the application to all bank?
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Rate is quite good from CIMB, perhaps you may appeal for lower rate. Any MRTA attach with this application?
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post Feb 24 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(deckhand @ Feb 22 2018, 12:50 PM)
Hey Sifus,

Just wanna ask. If I were to apply housing (Islamic) loan for property price RM306k (90% loan = RM275k) what is the rate I should expect (package with MRTA/ MRTT)? And how much will it cost for MRTA/MRTT?

My Credit Scoring is 7. No any other loan, only possess credit card from CIMB, MBB and HSBC (Paid on time).

Planned to send application to MBB, PIB, CIMBI, HLIB and BIMB (Or any other bank you can suggest that have a best rate?)

It is my first house, so the Stamp Duty exclusion will be ONLY SnP or SnP AND Loan Agreement?

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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MRTA/MRTT may varies from bank to bank's quotation as they are collaborate with different insurance companies.

PBB, MBB, HLB and RHB been giving good interest rates (4.5% - 4.6%). You may try these banks to get desired package.

As for waiver, you'll enjoy RM 5,000 waiver on SNP stamp duty whilst RM 1,500 waiver on loan stamp duty.

If purchase price below RM 300k, you'll enjoy 100% waiver.
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post Feb 27 2018, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(terence38 @ Feb 27 2018, 12:26 PM)
any loan specialist here,

if I'm a sole prop owner, paying salary to myself constantly every month with EPF and socso deduction.

can the salary used to calculate DSR? Which bank is acceptable in this case?

Thank you very much
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QUOTE(terence38 @ Feb 27 2018, 12:33 PM)
May I know which bank is acceptable in this case? If my sole prop only established for 6 months?
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QUOTE(terence38 @ Feb 27 2018, 01:00 PM)
Thanks. For the 2 years min requirement, may I know which bank you are referring to?
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QUOTE(terence38 @ Feb 27 2018, 01:15 PM)
I think this is a little too general, and a little confusion here.

If were to derive my income from the salary paying to myself, which is supposed to be employment income. and so in this case I have to be employed for more than 2 years only eligible to take loan?
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QUOTE(terence38 @ Feb 27 2018, 01:40 PM)
In that case I should consider registering the sole prop with my wife's name and paying me salary for 6 months to a year then I am eligible for loan cause bank doesn't care whether how long my employer has been established. This is the credit system for all banks in Msia?
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For self employed, bank will use 6 months company bank statement and income tax to derive. Not to mention, bank will require at least 2 years company establishment.

Sole prop could write any amount in pay slip hence bank will need company bank statement to justify business income. Come to ground, if you're sole prop and also receiving salary with EPF contribution from other company, some banks do accept dual income.

If you wish to know more about your loan eligibility, do share us your monthly commitment and company turnover & income declaration.
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post Mar 1 2018, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(iamsolucky @ Mar 1 2018, 11:24 AM)
Dear sifu,
Refinancing enquiry :

Bought a house at SPA 220000
Refinanced once when balance left RM200000 and house value at RM310000

After refinanced, Bank separate loan into 2 account :
Account 1 RM200000
Account 2 RM79000

Questions :
If i want to refinance again, let say now house value is RM500000, LTV 70%, so loan RM350000.
The refinancing 10 years DSR calculation is RM350000 - A .

The A is RM200000 (account 1) or  RM279000 (account 1+2) ?
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QUOTE(iamsolucky @ Mar 1 2018, 11:50 AM)
Thanks for reply.
I know 71k cash out.
My question is the 10 years DSR calculation is base on which scenario?
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For new refinance the max loan amount RM 350k shall deduct the existing loan RM 279k (total loan amount).

The new cash out amount (RM 350k - RM 279k) will shown as term loan 2. And commitment will follow 10 years DSR calculation.
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post Mar 1 2018, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(iamsolucky @ Mar 1 2018, 01:19 PM)
10 years DSR calculation for RM 350k - RM 279k ,while
35 yeats DSR for RM279k,
Am I right ?
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That's right, new cash out portion (RM 71k) will use 10 years DSR calculation.
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post Mar 4 2018, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Mar 4 2018, 12:10 PM)
Hi all, i want to refinancing my house. Can anybody give good advice pls.

Currently loan with bank islam and already passed the lock in period.
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Hi,

Need following info to simulate loan package and your loan eligibility.

- Type of property
- Any title obtained? (Individual or Strata title)
- Single or Joint name on both SNP or loan
- What's the current loan outstanding?
- What's the current market value in surrounding?

1) Borrower info

Age
Occupation
No of borrower
Single/joint borrower
No of housing loan on hand

2) Income

A) Salary earner
Gross salary
Allowances
i) Fixed (average in 3 months)
ii) Variable (average in 6 months)
OT
Bonuses
i) Contractual (total amount in 1 year)
ii) Performance (total amount in 2 years)
Commission (average in 6 months)

B) Self employed
- Sole proprietor / partnerships / Sdn Bhd

6 months company bank statement(credited amount)
i)
ii)
iii)
iv)
v)
vi)

Income tax declaration
Net Profit/Loss shown in past 3 years audited report (optional)

3) monthly installment

Housing loan
Hire purchase
Personal loan
ASB loan
PTPTN loan
Credit card
Share margin
Other term loan
OD

4) supporting document

Rental
Savings
Fd
Asb dividend
Shares
others
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post Mar 6 2018, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(midmay @ Mar 6 2018, 10:42 AM)
hi, if today i would like to refinance just to remove my partner from the loan agreement but still keeping her in the spa(currently is both our name), is it feasbile and what type of expenses will be incur?

thanks
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QUOTE(midmay @ Mar 6 2018, 10:51 AM)
thanks for your quick reply, however wanna understand more, how do bank calculate my income when currently loan is 2 person. Some scenario below:

Current scenario - Total loan rm2500 / 2 = Rm1250 per person

Refinance scenario - will bank still take the rm1250 as my commitment and to calculate my income to support the rm2500 commitment?

or bank will straight exclude the rm1250 from my current commitment, if so i think my income can support the refinance amount of rm2500-2600 monthly.
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QUOTE(midmay @ Mar 6 2018, 10:56 AM)
means they will exclude the current committment of the rm1250 from the same propoerty right? then i believe shouldn't be a problem from my end. thanks for the advice.
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This application will be treated as 3rd party application.

Original :

SNP : A+B
Loan : A+B

New :

SNP : A+B
Loan : A

Hence the monthly installment RM 2,500 will be solely on you + other existing commitments to against your current net income.

May I know what's the purpose of refinance? Cash out? Debt consolidation? or remove borrower's name?

If you wish to proceed 3rd party application, I'll need following info to calculate your eligibility.

1) Borrower info

Age
Occupation
No of borrower
Single/joint borrower
No of housing loan on hand

2) Income

A) Salary earner
Gross salary
Allowances
i) Fixed (average in 3 months)
ii) Variable (average in 6 months)
OT
Bonuses
i) Contractual (total amount in 1 year)
ii) Performance (total amount in 2 years)
Commission (average in 6 months)

B) Self employed
- Sole proprietor / partnerships / Sdn Bhd

6 months company bank statement(credited amount)
i)
ii)
iii)
iv)
v)
vi)

Income tax declaration
Net Profit/Loss shown in past 3 years audited report (optional)

3) monthly installment

Housing loan
Hire purchase
Personal loan
ASB loan
PTPTN loan
Credit card
Share margin
Other term loan
OD

4) supporting document

Rental
Savings
Fd
Asb dividend
Shares
others
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post Mar 9 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(LYNshop @ Mar 9 2018, 01:25 AM)
hi there, want to inquire, my current housing loan is 600k, installment around 3k.
i got extra 200k cash, instead of parking in current account, i wan to lower down monthly installment, but housing loan cannot do these type of early settlement like car right, like pay 200k to lower down loan amount. so wad can i do? refinance it? or...
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QUOTE(LYNshop @ Mar 9 2018, 01:50 AM)
is it worth it? because my s&p price is 800k+. refinance will follow the market value ?
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QUOTE(LYNshop @ Mar 9 2018, 02:04 AM)
so meaning i refinance on the 600k loan? i just recently started, paid 2 months installment. so means i refinance it with extra 200k, new loan will be 400k? sorry im new to these loan thing  sad.gif
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Which bank property currently charged to? MBB, CIMB and HSBC has privilege where you park RM 200k into loan account, it will alter your monthly installment.

If your current bank is none of the above banks mentioned , then it is best opportunity to refinance your property.

Entry cost would be loan legal fees + valuation fees + stamp duty, you may choose to finance into loan or self pay.

Max loan eligibility = Market value x 90% (given your housing loan is only 2 and below)

For instance, your market value is RM 800k and your loan margin is eligible for 90%

Hence your max loan amount = RM 800k x 90% = RM 720k

RM 720k - RM 650k = RM 70k cash out.

You may choose to cash out from refinancing. RM 70k will base on 10 years DSR calculation to calculate as new commitment whilst RM 650k will base on 35 years/til your age is 70 years to calculate commitment.

This post has been edited by ngph988: Mar 9 2018, 10:36 AM
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post Mar 15 2018, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(melvin1985 @ Mar 15 2018, 03:13 PM)
Hi sifus, Second time home buyer here.
Kindly advise :

Desaru 600k,
My gross income: 3.6k SGD

Got monthly incentive in case hit target 200 mthly and quarter 500 come with AWS and bonus  1.5 mth minimum

Commitments:
Car            : RM263 (auto debit every month)
House loan : Rm2420 (2 person name so i pay half $1210)
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Please find DSR range as below.

70% : RM 769,478.40
75% : RM 846,763.11
80% : RM 923,867.82
85% : RM 1,001,062.53

Above simulation derived from core income and bonus against your car loan and housing loan.

Different bank will have different DSR calculation. I'll need to check your income document, CCRIS and CTOS before finalize my findings.

May I know if you're purchasing undercon projects or subsale? If undercon projects you'll have limited selection on financier.
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post Mar 22 2018, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Lina94 @ Mar 22 2018, 04:14 PM)
Hi,

Just wondering, can i submit application for home loan from the same bank but different branch? hehe.

i am first time home buyer.
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Yes, you may. This is a free market
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post Mar 26 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(kdevan @ Mar 26 2018, 04:14 PM)
Hi, guys. I am a first time home buyer. I just want to get expert opinion. Which is better full flexi loan vs semi/smart flexi?
The guy from the bank is encouraging me to take smart flexi Islamic loan.
My Net Income after deduction is around RM 9.5K and planning to get 90% loan for RM 830K property. No car or any other commitment. Please advice.
Thank you
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Please find the max loan eligibility base on DSR calculation.

DSR
70% : RM 1,405,156.98
75% : RM 1,505,525.33
80% : RM 1,605,893.69
85% : RM 1,706,262.04

Simulation base on 35 years repayment and interest rate is 4.5% p.a.

Since you're salaried employee, I suggest you to take semi flexi unless you often withdraw/deposit money regularly in/from your loan account.

Full flexi will require RM 200 + 6% GST setup fee and monthly maintenance fee is RM 10 + 6% GST.

Differences between conventional loan vs Islamic loan
- Islamic loan has no lock in period in general (except RHB)
- 20% waiver on loan stamp duty fees
- 20% additional charges on Legal fees due to Syariah compliance.

For conventional loan, if you have fully settle loan in lock in period you'll be liable for penalty charges.

May I know if you're intend to purchase undercon or subsale? And also your current age?

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post Mar 27 2018, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 27 2018, 06:10 PM)
Hi, wanna ask about the rate, I got the climb Islamic load ( they told me is fix rate), 4.75%,30 yr.. is this consider good rate?
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CIMB should be floating rate. Only AIA and MBSB (financial institution) offering fixed rate.

The rate will subject to your loan amount and scoring. How much is loan amount?
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post Mar 27 2018, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 27 2018, 08:48 PM)
Loan amount only 510k, how to know my scoring?
The banker told me the rate will not go up and down with the market , or I misunderstood the banker? Anyway, will clarify with the banker again when I get the document. So, anything I should take notes and ask the banker? I’m first house buyer.
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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 27 2018, 09:15 PM)
Before started to submit the documents to apply, i have asked the banker about the rate, the banker said the best only 4.6, and usually will get around 4.7-4.75..
How about the others ( cimb loan) at this forum?
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Bank will have risk assessment toward your application. For the scoring, no one knows how to calculate except credit officer and system itself.

I guess your application is under RG 3. Middle range
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post Mar 28 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:26 AM)
Really good rate.  Do you think the commercial title (condo) will make the rate higher? i only know that it limit my tenure to max 30 yr.
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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 28 2018, 10:27 AM)
Thank you for your reply, i will going to ask around at the bank.
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Commercial usually get higher rate than residential as nature of property is for business usage. Max tenure under commercial title is 30 years for individual application. Company application will be up to 25 years max.
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post Mar 28 2018, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(sin2010 @ Mar 28 2018, 05:32 PM)
Hmmm... do you think 4.75 is considered high among those commercial title condo?
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Well, is a standard rate among the banks.
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post Apr 1 2018, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Mar 31 2018, 01:08 AM)
Hi guys, im applying a loan for 270k,
Currently mbb, hongleong, standchart, rhb has approved my loan. The interret rate is about the same. My question is what is the important factor to choose among 4 of them? Mbb/rhb is mrta compulsory while hongleong/standchart is optional. Is there any other factor i need to consider in choosing a bank loan?
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Apr 1 2018, 02:49 PM)
Thanks alot.
Very good explanation from you
Im fine with semi or full flexi.
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More or less info from lifebalance. Full flexi or semi flexi will subject to your cash flow management. If you are often withdraw/deposit cash, full flexi will best option.

Take note that if you're under RHB Islamic loan, they do have lock in period. Generally, there's no lock in period for Isalmic loan.
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post Apr 2 2018, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(terence38 @ Apr 2 2018, 04:21 PM)
Hi

Any credit officer or one particular bank's banker here? Would like to enquiry about my income situation for loan purposes.

Sorry to mortgage consultant / agents, I prefer to understand from one bank specified banker.

Any banker /credit officer from mbb / hlbb / pbb?
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QUOTE(terence38 @ Apr 2 2018, 04:35 PM)
maybe you can intro some good guy to me please?

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Sorry, probably you'll find mortgage broker or insurance agent here. Rarely direct banker will come here and provide a general guideline to netizen.
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post Apr 3 2018, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(rainderain @ Apr 3 2018, 02:22 PM)
May i know what is the cost of S&P -  transfer name from joint name to single name ?thanks in advance
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QUOTE(rainderain @ Apr 3 2018, 02:32 PM)
follow the scale of payment also?
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SNP fees

Legal fees - according to transacted price.

Stamp duty - SNP price or market value, whichever higher.
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post Apr 4 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(rainderain @ Apr 4 2018, 04:27 PM)
oh ok thanks
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Let us know if you have any doubt
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post Apr 8 2018, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(ChickenWing @ Apr 8 2018, 12:52 AM)
Got offer 4.8% for 360k loan.semi flexi. Is this High?
Clean ccris. First time borrower. All this while got crrdit card only
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You could get better rate. Maybe around 4.6% to 4.7%

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