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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post May 26 2017, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(sedwel @ May 26 2017, 12:29 AM)
Hi, I would like to ask after I  signed my loan offer letter for years, but recently I am trying to keep track the principal and interests for my instalment together with term and condition in order to leverage my investment plan.

I tried to approach the nearest bank of my place. However, the staff told me try to refer back to the Banker that I dealed with in the offer letter. So I tried to contact my banker, however it has been years and now I think she blocked me now due to lazy to entertain my queries.

So my question is who should i check with after sales service for my offer letter? Is the banker i deal or any bank branch will do? If the banker do in this way, is there any legal action or channel can I complain the banker  who lazy entertain my queries regarding my signed loan offer letter?
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The bankers that entertained you before is doing sales, so after-sales service must be his/her lower priority.

You should just walk in to any branch and get the LO printed out for a fee. But why do you need the LO if all you want to know is the principal and interests? Why not just ask for a LOAN STATEMENT? These are mailed to you every 6 months anyway, maybe update your residing address while you are at it?

QUOTE(sedwel @ May 26 2017, 03:56 PM)
Must be the branch from the banker ?
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Any branch and banker will do, since they are paid to serve you. The ones that dont serve you... well.. .you can ask to talk to the branch manager and escalate from there.
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post May 31 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Home Hunter @ May 31 2017, 10:07 AM)
Hihi,

Wondering if anyone is considering a MBB Full Flexi home loan?  How does it rate compared to other full flexi loans out there? I have read somewhere that it is different from the others, please advise if that is true?

What is the best possible interest rate if you have both great credit profile and score? (Long term customer, good FD savings, premiere wealth customer, good credit card payment records over 10 years, regular income, no other loan commitments)

Thanks!!
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I tis true, because MBB full flexi product is actually a combination of OD and term loan. The installment would flucturate a bit if you pay into the OD account due to the fact that with OD you are only responsible to pay the interest, and not the capital (since you have already paid for it anyhow by dumping money into that OD)

The rates would be dependent on the loan amount, you can get 4.25% starting from RM500k loan amount.

Hope that helps.

QUOTE(onejme @ May 31 2017, 12:58 PM)
Guys, i have a question and situation if anyone can help.

1. My late father left a property valued at around 1.3 million. Bank balance is about 300k++. I have been paying the monthly payment for the pass 2 years since this property doesnt have mrta or mltt.
2. I already have the 'Letter of Adminstration' for all my father asset.

Can i refinance the house to settle all the balance since the loan or the name on the grant is not my name?
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Yes you can, although I would suggest that you apply for a change of name by getting a transfer. Transfer is cheap, you can do so at pejabat tanah, supported by the Letter of Administration. At the same time, you can also "finance" to generate capital if you have a good investment scheme to invest in
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QUOTE(Jitty @ Jun 1 2017, 10:33 AM)
Good morning Guys, i am a newbie here into housing loan.
Recently i just booked a condo@Rm500k.
need a 90% loan from bank.
Applied CIMB as it is the panel banker for that development.
May i know what is the bank of the choice at the moment? the interest rate is quite high for me at 4.55% under semi flexi loans.
Wish all sifus can guide me.

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If you are buying underconstruction properties, there should be a list of panel banks that are the end-financers for the project. Have you found out which banks those are? You can apply to those banks, through the agents located at the sales galary, directly at the branches, and brokers as well. Based on recent approvals that I got for my clients, at 450k, you an easily get 4.35% rate with other banks.

QUOTE(Jitty @ Jun 1 2017, 11:13 AM)
no i havent yet.
Need some advice before proceeding my next steps.
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As above, just find out the banks that are panel to the project and proceed with that.
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post Jun 7 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 11:43 AM)
I would like to check my maximum loan amount for first house loan

Age 26
Income 80k annually

Commitment:
House 0
Car 0
Personal loan 0
Credit card outstanding 0 (every month paid statement bal)
Ptptn 0
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Assuming a conservative DSR of 80%, and rate of 4.5%, both of which can be better, but for the sake of pre-approval calculation, I kept them conservative.

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post Jun 7 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 11:50 AM)
wow fast response. thanks a lot!!
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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 12:14 PM)
1 more question please, my partner worked in SG can loan with me ah??
no epf no ea form

if yes can help calculate maximum loan amount also?

Age 25
Income 29k SGD (convert MYR around 89k) annually
Income already deducted rent commitment

other commitment 0 also.

tq for answering all expert...
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Your partner? Okay so I assume that he/she is the opposite sex to yours; if he is, then it should be easy.

Malaysians working in SG can get loans from Malaysian banks, it simply takes a little bit longer (extra a few days) because it takes time to credit controllers to verify the cross-border documents

Can you give me his/her gross income without any applicable deductions, including the house rent?

As it is though, here is the calculation

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post Jun 7 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 12:19 PM)
Malaysian.  Put either name or both,
yr suggestion?
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1. You should only do joint-application if you can't afford to get the loan you want (or the house you want) based on a single application. As it is, your loan eligibility is pretty high, at above 800k, that is a big/luxury house even in KL. You can do joint-application no problem, especially if you need to buy bigger

2. There are 2 agreements, the Loan Agreement and the Sale-Purchase Agreement, so joint has different application ya.

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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 12:23 PM)
gross income 2900 sgd (around 8900 myr)
rent 470 sgd per month (around 1450 myr)
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As usual, rate of 4.5% and DSR or 80%, which can be better, but for the sake of being conservative, we stick with these figures. He should start getting a few commitments in Malaysia to build his credit here, I recommend a few credit cards.

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QUOTE(twl04046 @ Jun 7 2017, 12:29 PM)
Thank you @wild_card_my and @lifebalance .

If i need yr services in future will pm u directly.
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QUOTE(chern5307 @ Jun 11 2017, 12:33 AM)
dear all sifus, may i know for the PBB home loan, if i pay rm500 extra every month to reduce the principal, will it become available withdrawn amount or must pay rm1k above only available for withdrawn during emergency?
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Wait I do not get your question. Are you asking about the minimum total payment required to start withdrawing, or are you asking about the amount to withdraw has to be multiples of RM1000 (like RHB)?
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QUOTE(chern5307 @ Jun 14 2017, 12:54 AM)
dear all sifu, just signed with pbbank islamic loan. One more question, may i know if i want to pay extra to reduce my principal is it i must do that over the counter or i can use online banking as well? my agent told me that i must go to pbbank branch only allow to prepayment for principal?
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To reduce principle, directly pay to the loan account, it can be done over the counter, ATM, or online.

Advance payment on the other hand, just let the money sit in the savings account and wait for the monthly deduction.
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QUOTE(MC Mong @ Jun 18 2017, 11:42 PM)
Dear sifus,

I'm a commission earner for a enterprise company. I do not have basic pay, nor epf contribution. If my commission for that month is 10k, I will receive full exact amount via cheque payment.

May I know any bank will accept if i would like to apply mortgage?
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the bank will consider two things:

1. Declared tax on Borang B
2. 10-20% of the average 6 months deposits in your company bank account statement

Some banks will look look either one, whichever higher, others whichever lower, but a tax payment is essential for an enterprise that is running a business (as opposed to those that exists for tax purposes for a contracted person)

Also, if you are running a business, the salary, epf, etc that is paid to you as a person from your own company is not worth anything to the bank; because as the owner of the company, you can manipulate your income however way you like.
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QUOTE(MC Mong @ Jun 18 2017, 11:52 PM)
I'm not self employed bro..  what i mean is i'm working with a enterprise company as a staff. commission based
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Ah my mistake, must be due to the time.

Yes, as long as your income is documented by the company, and the company is in good standing (banks may run RAM credit checks on them), then you will get 80% of your income calculated as part of your gross income. No EPF deductions will be applied, but banks may apply its own tax table deduction on the income.

But you are in good hands. Just make sure:

1. Your payment vouchers are documented for the past 6 months
2. You can tally the nett pay on the payment vouchers for the past 6 months bank statement
3. You get a letter of appointment from the company
4. It doesn't hurt to show that you are paying taxes. Are taxes deducted from your pay?

Side note: For commission earners, or partial commission earners (salaried sales men with commissions), most banks will only take up to 80% of the income as gross income, the reason is that these income is not fixed... the same goes with rental and dividends (UT, ASB, Tabung Haji, company dividends etc.)

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 19 2017, 09:12 PM)
Hi, may i know why the banker asking me give him a photocopy my previous  mortgage loan agreement (different house, from other bank that i borrow 7 years ago) when i apply loan for new house? Do i need to give him?
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The banker would probably use that to confirm:

1. Monthly installment
2. Match the loan amount with that on the CCRIS to confirm the installment
3. To check on number of borrowers if it is a joint loan
4. Based on 2, if your payslip has the installment stated in the payslip, the commitment will only be calculated once instead of twice.

A lot of good reasons to give the old LO/LoanAgreement to the banker. If you cant find the LA, you can try giving him the LO isntead
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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 19 2017, 09:42 PM)
What is LO?
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Sorry, LO is the Letter Offer from the bank. Loan Agreement, the LA, is the one you sign between you and the bank

The LO should have the bank's logo at the top, it is printed with the bank's letter head. You can use that in place of the Loan Agreement, usually that is what I request from my clients because not many people know where their LA is
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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 19 2017, 09:52 PM)
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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 20 2017, 02:25 PM)
Hi, may I know third party loan is guarantor? I mean A & B buy house but A apply third party loan only, B is guarantor?
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Yes and no, it depends on how you define guarantor. Most banks are not keen on using guarantors anymore now... so they will ask for documents for the guarantors, but they will not be able to hold them liable for any payment defaults by the borrower

Now, going back to your question, B is the chargor, and not a guarantor nor applicant.. The chargor is part owner of the house but is not part of the loan agreement. No financial burden will befallen him or her in the case of a default.
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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 20 2017, 03:23 PM)
For third party loan, Is that mean if A cannot pay the loan payment, bank will only sell this house but the debt (loan borrow by A) will not go to B, right? I mean the A debt not bear by B, correct?

Third party loan same as joint applicant? Because some bank  they have no third party loan, they told me joint applicant same as third party, I don't understand why joint applicant same as third party, I thought joint applicant is 2 people name borrow loan, am I wrong? What mean joint applicant for mortgage loan?
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1. In the event of a default and the preoperty is auctioned off, if the property is sold for higher than the outstanding amount, then you dont have to worry too much anymore about it as the bank would get their dues...

But to answer your question, yes the debt will not be transfered to B...

2. third party loan is NOT the same as joint application... joint application will take into account both the income and commitments of the joint applicant when considering to approve the loan... a chargor (part owner of the SPA but not part of the Loan Agreement) also known as B in your example, does not have his/her income adn commitments taken into account

3. In adition, the chargor "B" will NOT have the loan of "A" as part of B's CCRIS/commitment...


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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 20 2017, 03:46 PM)
Thanks for reply. For third party loan, if the property is auctioned off with lower than outstanding amount, A not able to paid the debt, will the debt go to B, B need pay the debt or not?
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Here's the thing about auctions.. the reserve price that you see stated on auctions already covered the outstanding amount that person A owes the bank... in any case, person B will not be liable to the debt because he/she is not part of the loan agreement, not part of the debt. Person B would lose the house, which is the asset, but he/she will not inherit the debts

QUOTE(Vingoh @ Jun 20 2017, 04:01 PM)
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Jun 21 2017, 11:40 AM)
what is mean by semi flexible?
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Semi flexi, full flexi.. well these are just terms that banks use to compare their own to another...

most banking products are now FLEXIBLE, meaning you can pay extra each month and the money will be used to deduct/reduce your borrowing/capital-outstanding, which is the actual amount that you borrow from them (which means it doesn't include the interest payments)

Now, for FULLY flexi, no 2 flexi products are the same:

1. Some have maintenance costs per month, others dont
2. Some have minimum withdrawal amount, other dont
3. Some link your mortgage account to a savings account, others dont

So how does a banker describe his product as full-flexi? i dont know, it is hard to tell. You need to ask all the details.

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