My first car was Proton Iswara Sedan 1.5. I used it for almost 8 years and never have major problem with it. Very worthy with the price.

my 1st car Proton Saga now already 20 years and serves me well, until recently got radiator problem (it's 20 years old radiator what would u expect?)
bought another saga flx se and serve me well also
u get for what u paid, want a very good quality car but dont want pay much, how?
recently volkswagen just recall all their i think passat car due to gearbox problem so? it's Volkswagen not Proton but no one bash
my office mate just bought vios trd full spec and after ride with my saga flx se he said :

other than engine which saga (campro) is louder, all the other thing is just the same or almost, why the hell i paid more for vios?

not a vios basher or any car basher but u cant expect RM50k car to have quality like RM90k car - that's it

* my personal opinion

The first gen Vios is better than later gen vios even. Those buggers are built like tanks

Proton got warranty ma no nid worry at all, just claim until u satisfied and its free, my ex persona oso very reliable used for 4 years no break down at all, power window oso no rosak lol.

But of coz u drive proton ppl sure look down on u la,
If got money buy 100k+ car, else juz stick to proton,perodua and save for better car nxt time,dun bother with those <100k made in thailand, it's not any better, proton is reliable.

QC bad, but the car is still reliably driveable, I can accept. Most Proton have little to no mechanical problems, just poor fit and finish and minor parts that fail sooner than their Japanese counterparts.

But if you wanna talk about poor reliability that causes the car to breakdown on the road, I think some conti brands are worst than Proton. Ever heard of a conti brand that have almost 100% gearbox failure rate (It's almost not a matter IF it will breakdown, it's WHEN it will breakdown). Conti cars drives nicely and often features new tech, but reliability is not their strong suit. The worst parts is, you pay more for them, so most owners just keep quiet.

Japanese have better reliability, though most of them drives like a freaking boat or/and features old tech (Which is why it is reliable, I guess)....

nobody mention the crony part suppliers?

Well, I guess the thread starter got his/her answer. Overall, OK cars but inconsistent quality. Don't expect the best of the best-lah, just cars that will get the job done... eventually

Every car that is assembled in Malaysia and uses locally made parts buy them from cronies, not just Proton.

It is what it is.

i own persona

previously drive wira and perdana

Proton car, sini bunyi sana bunyi, bunyi bunyi everywhere.

but i don't really care because i am driving, not like i am studying for exam and i need a quiet environment. turn on the radio and you can hardly hear any noise liao but normally i don't on radio anyway.

for the 10+ years of driving proton car. i got these problem

wira (year 1997)
1) power window failed 2x.
2) gearbox failed 1x Jerking jerking onli. not breakdown. it aged nearly 10 years that time. family car
3) engine top overhaul when aged 11.
4) alternator kong <- tis one workshop problem. no check properly
5) brake oil leaking <- tis one workshop problem oso. I told them leaking liao. they check then say no problem arrrr, very perfect. perfect mah arse, after 1 week it suddently leak everything out.

perdana v6 (year roughly 2002 i think)
1) gearbox kong after 7 years old. After intense google-ing can conclude, workshop and my own problem oso. perdana gearbox should change filter more often. they never know anything about the filter.
2) timing gear chip. donno what happen really.
3) aTF fluid completely leak. The workshop problem again. they say they saw liao the hose bengkak during my last service. i ask them why never inform me? they say still can use mar. Hose baru RM20+, towing car RM200+
4) power window failed initially. then found out actually is the rubber sticking the window becase long time no open.

persona (year 2010)
1) battery kong in slightly 1 year +. breakdown in basement parking. workshop no check lagi
2) vibrating noise from air vent.
3) rough aircon compressor. aircon pomen say compressor kong liao. thats like half year ago. but till now still kicking cold.

basically proton have no major problem, it is a very direct problem like this problem you change this part. mostly are because workshop didnt check properly and lack of owner knowledge on car. thats why starting with my own buy persona, i reasearch as much information i can to prevent any breakdown.

compare to some other foreign car, some can't be solve till they sell the car. will i buy proton again, yeah sure I will, for this segment/price range. it's the most affordable good handling car. not to mentioned, cheap parts and service.

N 1 more thing I salute proton is they r very open to critic, no like japanese brand they tend to hide all their defect, rmb last time preve test drive unit tyre pull out? They didnt hide it n even publicly admit it, while when almera test drive unit tyre pull out, they hide it in like 1 day time, and then hide n hide n pretend nothing had happened, tats y u know why their reputation is so good =.="

actually its this too. what do you expect when proton commands like almost half the cars on the roads at a certain period?
surely small issues will escalate very quickly because of the volume. look at roads, those contractors, sayur sellers, taxi drivers. many still using protons. if its really so bad, long ago already the cars cannot jalan or use anymore.

eg. the lexus having brake problems. you wont hear many people talking about it because not many owners. it takes an crowd clapping to be heard. 1 person clapping, nobody hears. and words get passed around real quick with internet.

to be frank, older proton models are plagued with quality issues. recent ones since the... lets see... i believe persona era.
thats about the time proton starts making better cars. if today i'm considering a car purchase, proton i will surely consider if it has something i want.

proton car sux big time laa...dun get one la...pls laa...get vios 2003...cheap n reliable...persona eat fuel like thirsty dinosaur...ancient GB...preve tayar easily kopak...u can google it...some more turbo engine also lazy to move...

how much is ur budget for a new car? u paying cash or loan? better u get old 20years old toyota...the rest of ur money get properties la...or invest in whatever u can invest...

big no to proton...

ya..agree on that..
proton recall their saga flx due to gearbox problem within 1 year after this model come out.
perodua recall their myvi within 1 year too due to electronic power steering problem
but toyota only recall after few years the model are on the road.

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/10...or-fire-hazard/

This post has been edited by shen1716: Mar 29 2013, 09:35 AM

oh I remember this one! the almera drive unit case, nissan quickly hide the story. even requested online websites to remove the pictures!

please go to this page http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/499062

u can here many story about proton...n u can close this thread...

Go ram your car onto a road curb, see how many tires kopak.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 29 2013, 09:46 AM

my vios 2003 not kopak la...

My cheapo saga ok je.
Of course la after a while there will be minor2 things like door lock cannot go up etc etc. but thats minor. A quick run to SC will solve issue.
If you read the car clubs section and follow the problems at other brand also have many other problems..
After all its man made.The difference is more ppl using proton cos its cheaper and of cos u will hear more complaints.

logic that just make sense.

This post has been edited by riezzien: Mar 29 2013, 09:51 AM

I guess it goes down to handful of lucky Proton. I heard horror stories from friends and families.

But then, used to drive a 1.3 Iswara Aeroback and no issue on anything except for the failed brake pump and the infamous power window issue.

And one tank of petrol could go 600km+.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/499062

u all didnt read this thread kaa? got dedicated thread to discuss proton problem maaa...cant not understand meh?