The first gen Vios is better than later gen vios even. Those buggers are built like tanks

QC bad, but the car is still reliably driveable, I can accept. Most Proton have little to no mechanical problems, just poor fit and finish and minor parts that fail sooner than their Japanese counterparts.

But if you wanna talk about poor reliability that causes the car to breakdown on the road, I think some conti brands are worst than Proton. Ever heard of a conti brand that have almost 100% gearbox failure rate (It's almost not a matter IF it will breakdown, it's WHEN it will breakdown). Conti cars drives nicely and often features new tech, but reliability is not their strong suit. The worst parts is, you pay more for them, so most owners just keep quiet.

Japanese have better reliability, though most of them drives like a freaking boat or/and features old tech (Which is why it is reliable, I guess)....

Every car that is assembled in Malaysia and uses locally made parts buy them from cronies, not just Proton.

It is what it is.

Go ram your car onto a road curb, see how many tires kopak.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 29 2013, 09:46 AM

Better FC, yes, but acceleration I think the dugong is better. That said, the old Vios at home is 7 years old, and the dashboard has yet to rattle unless it is on very bad roads. The engine is worn and it idles like a truck, other than that the other parts are still working well, still on the original absorbers

Bought new RM83k, now estimated value at around RM50k I don't think any Korean car can beat that

Downside is, I'd much rather drive my own car than that car even if my car rattles and have poor FC. That car is just so damn dull to drive.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 29 2013, 10:58 AM

Bro...si Daniel John was being sarcastic

Just an example.

Ford Fiesta, I'd driving one so I guess I can say something about it without sound like I'm bashing Ford. The Fiesta have several unresolved issues since it was launched here a few years ago. The most notable being leaking gearbox, clutch slipping and the exhaust muffler melting soundproof material in the boot. These are not isolated cases, it is well known among Fiesta owners. So why non-owners seldom hear of it? because it's a Ford and because there are not as many Fiestas on the road compared to Proton or Perodua.

These are not annoying problems like rattle or power windows, this is something that can potentially affect the car's driveability and possibly dangerous. And MANY Fiestas are affected.

Imagine there are as many Fiestas as there are Myvis on our roads. Imagine if the Fiesta is manufactured by Proton. We will be burning the car at Proton HQ. Imagine if VW's failure-prone DSG is used on Proton cars.

See what I'm getting at? We are willing to forgive all these VW / Ford / BMW / Audi / Merc / Renault cars by saying "Aiya, Conti cars all new tech ma deswai many problems.....but it is nice to drive and have powerful engines and when I drive I ade muka!"

But when Proton introduce a turbocharge engine and CVT, everyone say "Sei sor hai Proton R&D all this new tech for what, Power window also kenot do properly."......How many FLXs are on the road? How many of them have a failed or leaky CVT?

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 31 2013, 07:49 PM

Buy Inspira = Why you waste so much money buy a no class expensive proton

Buy Avanza = Bought a high class car cheap cheap, very smart spender



This post has been edited by dares: Apr 3 2013, 09:49 AM

Sometimes is not about status. It is incredibly aggravating when other people thinks you are stupid for buying what you bought, when you know they dunno jack about cars, especially your own family.

When I bought a Saga, my family ask me why I don't buy Myvi ("Toyota ma"). When I buy Fiesta, they ask me why I don't buy Vios ("TOYOTA MA" ). Apparently, the problem was not why I bought a Proton, it was why I didn't buy a Sushi

Vios

This is so full of win, I dont even know where to begin.

Let's begin with how many local cars are there on the road compare to "branded cars"?

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 4 2013, 09:59 AM

Are you sure? a few years ago I drove my junker iswara to the Palace of the Golden Horses. The bellboy came and open my door with a smile just the same as he did for other Beemers or Mercs. It was a bit embarassing actually because my central lock was broken

Maybe the bellboys are not as shallow as you are.

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 4 2013, 10:04 AM

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Please do that if you feel insecure about your status or bellboys won't open your door.

Just don't go around saying ppl that drive local cars are no class ppl, because you dunno who they are. I've seen five figure earners who drive a Proton, and I've also seen sales agents who earn RM2k a month buying a branded car and paying half his salary to the car installment alone.

Of course, there are high income earners who drive branded cars, I hope you are in this category.

I wonder those guys who wear Armani to work and buy LV / Prada for their GF, but drives a Myvi. What class are they in

replace with Carbon Fiber

Everyone knows that. many ppl judges you by what you wear, what you drive. It doesn't make it right.

You swore you will never drive a local car because you are worried what other ppl thinks about you, that shows what you think about those ppl who drives a local car. I'm just saying if you judge ppl just by the materials they own, it doesn't make you any higher class than them, it just makes you shallow.

I'd respect an honest businessman who drives a local than a dodgy salesman who drives a VW. I like the car, doesn't mean I like the driver.

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 4 2013, 10:59 AM

Nvm, you avatar cantek so I respect you

What about a young man who wears slippers, short pants and singlet but drives a beemer that he owns?

Let u in on a little secret: Foreign carmakers does not give a sh!t whether you support them. the good ones can hardly sell; The ones that can sell, no other countries want and is dumped here.

Marketing: We have a supporter in Malaysia!
CEO: Fnck him, let's talk about the US and China market.

Yes, pls move to a country that they actually care about.

This post has been edited by dares: Apr 4 2013, 11:53 AM