Neh, my friends asked me whether my dog is purebreed or not. I told them, that I love my dog for what it is, not because of whether he is pure breed or not.

This post has been edited by jdreamer: Apr 12 2006, 09:46 PM

If it's not a JRT, i wouldn't be that active in the JRT thread already.

Hun, you saw Benni b4 also rite?

Got, saw him few times liao hahah... Benni is a nice JRT also, hope the pups will be like both parents.... hahah... if one pup sits like Piper, then you gotta keep it loh heheheh....

Neither for or against certified pure breeds but a crucial point 2 b considered is whether d pooch is able 2 perform d functions as it was originally intended n bred 4. Dat is d very basis 4 d different shapes, sizes n breeds of dogs v hv today. All dogs r bred 4 a purpose, b it 4 companionship, hunting, retrieving, herding etc. Not much use having a certified pure breed protection dog if it dun hv good bite or a certified pure breed hunting dog if it dun hv d prey drive. If dey arent reasonably adept in d field, den dey dun really represent d 'pure breed', even if dey come with a cert.

D cert only gvs an indication dat d breed u r going 2 get is within d specs as established by d kennels, n even dat is not guaranteed. Hence, u may still end up with an off-spec pedigree.

Given dat most dogs nowadays r kept purely as companions n arent really tested in d field, den having a cert or not dun really matter n is only of use if u intend 2 parade ur dog at d conformation shows

Wld like 2 borrow a quote from a friend of mine (Reality Dreamer), 'Pedigree indicates wat d animal should b. Conformation indicates what d animal appears 2 b. But performance indicates wat d animal actually is.'

This post has been edited by groovemaster: Apr 12 2006, 11:59 PM

Hmm fake certs are easy to obtain, Certs doesnt guarantee the "pureness" of a certain breed.
There has been a well know case, a well known dog shop in Penang that produces its own certs. The owner is a "somebody" in the dog arena. I bet many other petshops do the same thing.

Dogs with certs are sold with a higher price, while dogs without certs are sold cheaper. I don't really think certs are necessary unless your dog is for show or breeding. If I m not mistaken a real cert contains the dog's lineage, that includes the dog's parents, grandparents etc...

Plus MKA is just an organization which takes money and produces the cert, its not somesort of Gov body that can guarantee purity of a breed.

how she sits ?
got photo ?
interested....

not many others....dont because of a shop make you think that others is also doin like that
dont because of a bad apple make customer lost trusted on other shop

The whole fiasco started when a fellow forumer claimed that the ACS that darren-c is selling for his friend is not PUREBREED because it doesn't have cert. Thanks to MKA for instilling that assumption to most ppl.

But who cares? do any of you give a d@mn thing about cert when you feel in love instantly with a dog right infront of you? To me, as long as we're not showing the dog, to hell with cert.

The latest Berita Anjing had 2 pages of a list of registered mini schnauzers that have been deregistered just because the coat is WHITE in color. Pedigree has been revoked and why it that i asked myself. That piece of thing is to show the lineage just as how a birthcert means to us, humans. Why the hassle over DEregistering them just because they don't conform with the breed standard? It is STILL a Mini schnauzer to me.

darren, a sample of the pic is already posted in the JRT thread.

edit: here's the pic

This post has been edited by nairud: Apr 13 2006, 09:46 AM

m'sia cert dont mean anything for me, even a cert dog, u can see they r out of standard like a mix breed.

the most important is, study more about the breed u want to buy, don't pay a CERT dog price, but get a mix breed with cert.

but all dogs are priceless, even u pick them up from road side, they will be your precious.

Must ask nairud for pic loh... even my dog tried to sit like that.... but ah... still cannot beat Piper's way of sitting hahahah....

MKA.... bah.... they don't know anything.... white is caused by a gene mah.... they actualy aren't pure whites... just very very light silver, like a diluted salt and pepper... already other countries accepting white MS... as long not albino.

True.... the cert's here don't mean anything. My dogs got certs but what I do with them? Hahahah.... I just like to see the family tree only... nothing else... show? Not showing at all coz they don't come to the right standards...

All dogs, no matter mix, pure or mongrel.... still dogs, still our companions.

yep too pity those whose cert was recalled =.="
why mka issue the cert to them at the 1st ?
this is their fault !
and....alot of my customer when registering dog, the just pay not enough RM0.30 only
the cert delay until 7months+
he keep waiting but then mka din inform him
then in the end he phone to check....they told him still have to pay RM0.30
haih...
msia cert doesnt mean anythin...you're right
cert is for the family tree...or the lineage, mating with certed dog, show
otherwise no use with the paper...

Well, many white MS gets registered as Salt and pepper... I dunno how MKA works lah coz I've not bred dogs before.... as I know, petshops lable white MS but they also put the cert on display and I see it says Salt and Pepper....

White and Salt & Pepper does makes differences. Its funny how they register the white ms to salt & pepper ms.

'ghost fight ghost' in cantonese !
hahahahaha

Hahah.. yah loh.

Well, what to do? Some breeders purposely breed whit MS coz they think unique and can ask for higher price.... we won't know for sure but I think that's how that white gene got spread around so quite a number of MS carry the white gene...

normally white ms cert got chop not for breeding 1 mah
haih
dont know what they doin inside
conflict all

Actually, I've always wanted a white MS too.

Yah loh... like white boxer mah.... but it is so funny. Coz another forum got this lady's MS gave birth to 4 or 6 very pale salt and pepper... like white lah.... and MKA told her that her pups cannot be registered I think.... so funny....

You should see a silver one. Then you would all over it ghahahah....

the colour lighter not mean that it is totally 'white'
maybe it lack of copper
copper is for the colour tone
maybe can add more supplement on copper
so far never see a supplement that only concerntrate on copper...
mostly i recommend multi vite for my customer

hahaha..silver. yes! when you see one, you'll hun and i saw one b4.



Just because it's not following the standard, they still have to provide the cert..it's about linage we're talking about here. Put a chop saying cannot breed or whatever la..adui.

This post has been edited by nairud: Apr 13 2006, 04:45 PM