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post Apr 12 2006, 04:59 PM

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A cert just give proof of the parentage, lineage.... it's only important if you want to show the dog. Buying a certified purebreed is just a way of knowing what you paid for in the end.

A certless but pure breed is purebreed lah... tak akan mix breed? From the photos I can see it is a cocker spaniel and not anything else.

People buy certless dog coz more affordable. As long comes from good responsible home breeders that do not over breed their dog, then it is ok.

Some petshops these days duplicate or buy dead MKA dog's certs to use during their sales... Not all ah, just a few.... all for the sake of making sales.... So sometimes we can't even trust petshops that say certified dogs.... lol, got this info coz happened to my friend lah....

Anyway, MKA dogs comes more expensive, certless purebreeds cheaper. As long you just want the dog, then cert is nothing lah. There is no harm buying a dog without cert but it is best not to breed once bought coz there will just be overbreeding later on.... these are just my thoughts, even though I have breeded dogs, never breed them coz I believe the pros should do it.

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post Apr 12 2006, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 12 2006, 05:10 PM)
yes agree
thats why i invest a scanner in my shop to prove that it is real mka registered dog
or else
people look for certless purebreed cause of affordable....as what you said
if say certless dog are not pure breed....i guess alot of dog will suffer for no home to stay =p
hahaha
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rclxms.gif Good that you have a scanner. Not many petshops have a scanner and mostly we gotta call MKA to find out if the dog is really registered.
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post Apr 12 2006, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 12 2006, 06:14 PM)
But some kiasu ppl would care. Sometimes when i bring Piper out, they'll ask..got cert or not.. doh.gif
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Hahaha.... I also kena like that.... then when I say got, some also ask, "can provide stud service ah?"

I'd reply "Sorry, my dog cannot produce liao" rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2006, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 12 2006, 06:19 PM)
laugh.gif Piper and Benni, you want or not tongue.gif
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Hahah... how I wish to have.... but already I got 4 leh heheheh sweat.gif
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post Apr 12 2006, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 12 2006, 08:33 PM)
piper is jrt ?
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Yah, a very nice JRT coz she has the standard size and nice head. I also like the way she sits hahahah....
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post Apr 12 2006, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 12 2006, 09:54 PM)
If it's not a JRT, i wouldn't be that active in the JRT thread already. whistling.gif

Hun, you saw Benni b4 also rite?
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Got, saw him few times liao hahah... Benni is a nice JRT also, hope the pups will be like both parents.... hahah... if one pup sits like Piper, then you gotta keep it loh heheheh....
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post Apr 13 2006, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 13 2006, 02:21 AM)
how she sits ?
got photo ?
interested....
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Must ask nairud for pic loh... even my dog tried to sit like that.... but ah... still cannot beat Piper's way of sitting hahahah....

QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 13 2006, 08:43 AM)
The whole fiasco started when a fellow forumer claimed that the ACS that darren-c is selling for his friend is not PUREBREED because it doesn't have cert. Thanks to MKA for instilling that assumption to most ppl.

But who cares? do any of you give a d@mn thing about cert when you feel in love instantly with a dog right infront of you? To me, as long as we're not showing the dog, to hell with cert.

The latest Berita Anjing had 2 pages of a list of registered mini schnauzers that have been deregistered just because the coat is WHITE in color. Pedigree has been revoked and why it that i asked myself. That piece of thing is to show the lineage just as how a birthcert means to us, humans. Why the hassle over DEregistering them just because they don't conform with the breed standard? It is STILL a Mini schnauzer to me.

darren, a sample of the pic is already posted in the JRT thread.
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MKA.... bah.... they don't know anything.... white is caused by a gene mah.... they actualy aren't pure whites... just very very light silver, like a diluted salt and pepper... already other countries accepting white MS... as long not albino.

QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Apr 13 2006, 08:56 AM)
m'sia cert dont mean anything for me, even a cert dog, u can see they r out of standard like a mix breed.

the most important is, study more about the breed u want to buy, don't pay a CERT dog price, but get a mix breed with cert.

but all dogs are priceless, even u pick them up from road side, they will be your precious.
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True.... the cert's here don't mean anything. My dogs got certs but what I do with them? Hahahah.... I just like to see the family tree only... nothing else... show? Not showing at all coz they don't come to the right standards...

All dogs, no matter mix, pure or mongrel.... still dogs, still our companions.
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post Apr 13 2006, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 13 2006, 09:54 AM)
yep too pity those whose cert was recalled =.="
why mka issue the cert to them at the 1st ?
this is their fault !
and....alot of my customer when registering dog, the just pay not enough RM0.30 only
the cert delay until 7months+
he keep waiting but then mka din inform him
then in the end he phone to check....they told him still have to pay RM0.30
haih...
msia cert doesnt mean anythin...you're right
cert is for the family tree...or the lineage, mating with certed dog, show
otherwise no use with the paper...
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Well, many white MS gets registered as Salt and pepper... I dunno how MKA works lah coz I've not bred dogs before.... as I know, petshops lable white MS but they also put the cert on display and I see it says Salt and Pepper....
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QUOTE(jdreamer @ Apr 13 2006, 10:38 AM)
White and Salt & Pepper does makes differences. Its funny how they register the white ms to salt & pepper ms.
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Hahah.. yah loh.

Well, what to do? Some breeders purposely breed whit MS coz they think unique and can ask for higher price.... we won't know for sure but I think that's how that white gene got spread around so quite a number of MS carry the white gene...
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post Apr 13 2006, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 13 2006, 01:30 PM)
normally white ms cert got chop not for breeding 1 mah
haih
dont know what they doin inside
conflict all
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Yah loh... like white boxer mah.... but it is so funny. Coz another forum got this lady's MS gave birth to 4 or 6 very pale salt and pepper... like white lah.... and MKA told her that her pups cannot be registered I think.... so funny....

QUOTE(jdreamer @ Apr 13 2006, 01:33 PM)
Actually, I've always wanted a white MS too. laugh.gif
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You should see a silver one. Then you would drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif all over it ghahahah....

 

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