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post Apr 12 2006, 02:41 PM, updated 20y ago

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Refer to the thread for previous conversation

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=273650

what you all think of it ?

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post Apr 12 2006, 02:49 PM

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A dog can't be consider pure breed(pedigree) even if it doesn't have a cert. Many people avoid the hassle of registering their pups to MKA.

On the other hand, without a cert, there is no prove that pups are pure breed. The cert will show the dog's family tree as well as the award(if any) and origin.

A responsible dog owner will not simply breed dogs and not register them with MKA~! Nor will they mate with dogs with no cert....
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post Apr 12 2006, 03:01 PM

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becuase of mka new rule make alot people become 'irresponsible' dog owner
alot of my customer getting this case...
they din seperate their dog so it accidentally mate
they just realise the dog when saw it pregnant but its more than 28 days
so the application for the cert is not allowed
no need to say malaysia
many other country also have certless pure breed dog
they dont even care about the cert also
like some dogs mka doesnt admit 1 so that 1 not consider pure breed ?
thats the question starts again

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post Apr 12 2006, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(N0eL @ Apr 12 2006, 02:49 PM)
A dog can't be consider pure breed(pedigree) even if it doesn't have a cert. Many people avoid the hassle of registering their pups to MKA.

On the other hand, without a cert, there is no prove that pups are pure breed. The cert will show the dog's family tree as well as the award(if any) and origin.

A responsible dog owner will not simply breed dogs and not register them with MKA~! Nor will they mate with dogs with no cert....
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A owner who doesnt register them with MKA is irresonsible ? Why is that so ?
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post Apr 12 2006, 03:52 PM

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Certs are just a proof that whether it's pure breed or not. Most of the people will buy a dog with cert to avoid being cheated by dishonest seller, that's why you see that there's a huge price gap between a dog with cert and one without cert. For me, cert is just a piece of toilet paper unless i'm going to bring my dog to competition.
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post Apr 12 2006, 04:38 PM

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cert is to prove for the person who not trust the shop
but certless dog mostly are certain popular breed only
like shihtzu,poodle....etc
through customer's demand....70% of them are lookin for certless dog
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nowdays people are buyin dogs for gf, buyin dog for children....as long as the dog is pure breed, they dont care about the cert

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post Apr 12 2006, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(hao @ Apr 12 2006, 03:52 PM)
Certs are just a proof that whether it's pure breed or not. Most of the people will buy a dog with cert to avoid being cheated by dishonest seller, that's why you see that there's a huge price gap between a dog with cert and one without cert. For me, cert is just a piece of toilet paper unless i'm going to bring my dog to competition.
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Toilet paper ? laugh.gif Well,i think cert is like a guarantee that the dog is a pure breed. That's all. It's just to diffentiate between good lines and normal ones.
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A cert just give proof of the parentage, lineage.... it's only important if you want to show the dog. Buying a certified purebreed is just a way of knowing what you paid for in the end.

A certless but pure breed is purebreed lah... tak akan mix breed? From the photos I can see it is a cocker spaniel and not anything else.

People buy certless dog coz more affordable. As long comes from good responsible home breeders that do not over breed their dog, then it is ok.

Some petshops these days duplicate or buy dead MKA dog's certs to use during their sales... Not all ah, just a few.... all for the sake of making sales.... So sometimes we can't even trust petshops that say certified dogs.... lol, got this info coz happened to my friend lah....

Anyway, MKA dogs comes more expensive, certless purebreeds cheaper. As long you just want the dog, then cert is nothing lah. There is no harm buying a dog without cert but it is best not to breed once bought coz there will just be overbreeding later on.... these are just my thoughts, even though I have breeded dogs, never breed them coz I believe the pros should do it.

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yes agree
thats why i invest a scanner in my shop to prove that it is real mka registered dog
or else
people look for certless purebreed cause of affordable....as what you said
if say certless dog are not pure breed....i guess alot of dog will suffer for no home to stay =p
hahaha

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 12 2006, 05:10 PM)
yes agree
thats why i invest a scanner in my shop to prove that it is real mka registered dog
or else
people look for certless purebreed cause of affordable....as what you said
if say certless dog are not pure breed....i guess alot of dog will suffer for no home to stay =p
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rclxms.gif Good that you have a scanner. Not many petshops have a scanner and mostly we gotta call MKA to find out if the dog is really registered.
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give more guarantee to customer mah...
we doin long term business 1
since we're 1st dog shop in penang...
been heard alot case that happen
fake cert lar, dead dog's cert lar, print cert lar....
so we scan the number and the vaccination card got stick with the chip's barcode
then they dont believe can phone to mka to check whether the dog got register or not


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post Apr 12 2006, 05:48 PM

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I've always felt that those certs were a waste of time, and money to some lame ass so called doggy body.

Love the dog for what it is, not for it's godamnned breed.
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Apr 12 2006, 04:52 PM)
Toilet paper ?  laugh.gif Well,i think cert is like a guarantee that the dog is a pure breed. That's all. It's just to diffentiate between good lines and normal ones.
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Just like what pizzaboy has said:

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 12 2006, 05:48 PM)
I've always felt that those certs were a waste of time, and money to some lame ass so called doggy body.

Love the dog for what it is, not for it's godamnned breed.
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I bought the dog to be my companion, not because of its breed. So who cares (I mean me lar...hehe) about the cert?!
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post Apr 12 2006, 06:14 PM

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But some kiasu ppl would care. Sometimes when i bring Piper out, they'll ask..got cert or not.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 12 2006, 06:14 PM)
But some kiasu ppl would care. Sometimes when i bring Piper out, they'll ask..got cert or not.. doh.gif
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Hahaha.... I also kena like that.... then when I say got, some also ask, "can provide stud service ah?"

I'd reply "Sorry, my dog cannot produce liao" rolleyes.gif
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laugh.gif Piper and Benni, you want or not tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 12 2006, 06:19 PM)
laugh.gif Piper and Benni, you want or not tongue.gif
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Hahah... how I wish to have.... but already I got 4 leh heheheh sweat.gif
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post Apr 12 2006, 08:33 PM

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piper is jrt ?

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QUOTE(-DaRReN-C- @ Apr 12 2006, 08:33 PM)
piper is jrt ?
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Yah, a very nice JRT coz she has the standard size and nice head. I also like the way she sits hahahah....

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