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 Monk Discussion V5 - 1.08 Live!, even better party king with 20%GL buff

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post Jul 15 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 14 2013, 05:22 PM)
5 or 6 are not much difference, so, try to aim for 25% skill dmg.

Other than that, WKL only has 2 random stat, one must be socket, the other hopefully Crit Dmg or Life steal, depending on what you need. gladfly has a good WKL, you can use it to check if it will get you more damage:

http://d3up.com/i/12674196
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hah..cow my WKL only got a perfection rating of 57% nia...where got good...sad.gif. p.s See you in game wanna settle hutang smile.gif

Anyways..just another point to chime in for WKL users (or potential users) since I been using 1 for the longest of time.

In a WKL set up, I realized that ASI is probably a more valued stat compared with say dex. Other than the obvious reasons that higher ASI generates more cyclones, higher APS means you are applying the +% lightning damage more frequently if you use FoT. Remember the +% lightning skills is not shown in the sheet DPS, hence the more times you apply the +% lightning skills, the higher you eDPS will be.

To sum it all up with an example, say your WKL has +25% Lighting skills, your FoT-Thunderclap actual damage is 110%+35%+25% =160%. Now the sheet dps only captures the 145% of FoT. Hence any pDPS increase by way of ASI, captures only the ASI increase x 145%, but in actual fact, in game the net increase damage translate actually ASI x 160%. This also applies to any +% Fot damage gear too. Hence the best pair for a DW WKL is a EF, due to EF's +0.2x attacks.

This all leads to the conclusion that %lightning skills is a much more desired stats compared with the +%elemental damage when choosing WKL.

WKL is an bloody enigma. Till today I still can find ways to squeeze more edps out of a WKL.
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post Jul 15 2013, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 15 2013, 02:13 PM)
hah..cow my WKL only got a perfection rating of 57% nia...where got good...sad.gif. p.s See you in game wanna settle hutang smile.gif

Anyways..just another point to chime in for WKL users (or potential users) since I been using 1 for the longest of time.

In a WKL set up, I realized that ASI is probably a more valued stat compared with say dex. Other than the obvious reasons that higher ASI generates more cyclones, higher APS means you are applying the +% lightning damage more frequently if you use FoT. Remember the +% lightning skills is not shown in the sheet DPS, hence the more times you apply the +% lightning skills, the higher you eDPS will be.

To sum it all up with an example, say your WKL has +25% Lighting skills, your FoT-Thunderclap actual damage is 110%+35%+25% =160%. Now the sheet dps only captures the 145% of FoT. Hence any pDPS increase by way of ASI, captures only the ASI increase x 145%, but in actual fact, in game the net increase damage translate actually ASI x 160%. This also applies to any +% Fot damage gear too. Hence the best pair for a DW WKL is a EF, due to EF's +0.2x attacks.

This all leads to the conclusion that %lightning skills is a much more desired stats compared with the +%elemental damage when choosing  WKL.

WKL is an bloody enigma. Till today I still can find ways to squeeze more edps out of a WKL.
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mauhahaha! i m 100mil richer! now, what should i buy...


gladfly
post Jul 15 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 15 2013, 02:33 PM)
mauhahaha! i m 100mil richer! now, what should i buy...
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Anything but cold res stuff....wuahahahahha

MEMPO!!!!!!! do a Decard Cain..buy unid.....and hope for the best
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post Jul 15 2013, 03:27 PM

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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! dont tell everyone that i m changing from poison to cold resist!!!! it's a secret!!!

i mean, ppl normally change from single resist to all resist...
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post Jul 15 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 15 2013, 02:13 PM)
hah..cow my WKL only got a perfection rating of 57% nia...where got good...sad.gif. p.s See you in game wanna settle hutang smile.gif

Anyways..just another point to chime in for WKL users (or potential users) since I been using 1 for the longest of time.

In a WKL set up, I realized that ASI is probably a more valued stat compared with say dex. Other than the obvious reasons that higher ASI generates more cyclones, higher APS means you are applying the +% lightning damage more frequently if you use FoT. Remember the +% lightning skills is not shown in the sheet DPS, hence the more times you apply the +% lightning skills, the higher you eDPS will be.

To sum it all up with an example, say your WKL has +25% Lighting skills, your FoT-Thunderclap actual damage is 110%+35%+25% =160%. Now the sheet dps only captures the 145% of FoT. Hence any pDPS increase by way of ASI, captures only the ASI increase x 145%, but in actual fact, in game the net increase damage translate actually ASI x 160%. This also applies to any +% Fot damage gear too. Hence the best pair for a DW WKL is a EF, due to EF's +0.2x attacks.

This all leads to the conclusion that %lightning skills is a much more desired stats compared with the +%elemental damage when choosing  WKL.

WKL is an bloody enigma. Till today I still can find ways to squeeze more edps out of a WKL.
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huh .. very details explanation. rclxms.gif
btw, the " 110%+35%+25% =160%. " is suppose to be 170%?

look like attack speed is vital for WKL user. i will try blazing fist & combi-strike see how it goes.
tq bro. blush.gif
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post Jul 15 2013, 09:03 PM

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Snipe another piece of gear at 1d11h... rolleyes.gif now with 667 resist (with OWE)... at 621k EHP... MP10? laugh.gif

VOTA MP10 in 7 mins!!! DW with no movement/mobility skill...



For the last piece, I just need 33 Cold Resist... which should not be difficult to get... problem is, not easy to find one that can give me same or better DPS (without spending beeezzz)

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post Jul 16 2013, 12:23 AM

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Holy cow, the last pcs is cold resist nat ring?
Spent all the way to match ur trifecta ammy? Bravo, I'm salute.. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jul 16 2013, 12:23 AM)
Holy cow, the last pcs is cold resist nat ring?
Spent all the way to match ur trifecta ammy? Bravo, I'm salute.. biggrin.gif
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Ya, still have not acquired the last piece... but feel powerful enough! Now, spend more time dealing damage, less kiting. Still not as good as high LoH / dual LS, but good enough for my play style.

Another MP10 VOTA run with 8 Elites and 3 Goblins, got like 6 DE. Pretty good run, especially trying to kill a Goblin with 2 packs and vortex trying to stop you.




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post Jul 16 2013, 10:34 AM

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huh.. nice video.
i thought the last goblin will be gone but u still managed to take him down, and ur bell is damn powerful! very good job with single LS only.. sweat.gif rclxms.gif

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post Jul 16 2013, 03:07 PM

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Almost tempted to spend hundreds of mils yesterday to buy some godly gears that can push my DPS to 300k DPS...

I am glad I didn't do it! Not worth spending beezzz / real money just to get another 10% DPS...

Still hunting for a cheap and good cold resist nat ring laugh.gif

Anway, some interview with Josh and Wyatt:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...iew#more-368822

Basically, nothing new...
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post Jul 16 2013, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2013, 03:07 PM)
Almost tempted to spend hundreds of mils yesterday to buy some godly gears that can push my DPS to 300k DPS...

I am glad I didn't do it! Not worth spending beezzz / real money just to get another 10% DPS...

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it will happen eventually biggrin.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2013, 03:07 PM)
Almost tempted to spend hundreds of mils yesterday to buy some godly gears that can push my DPS to 300k DPS...

I am glad I didn't do it! Not worth spending beezzz / real money just to get another 10% DPS...

Still hunting for a cheap and good cold resist nat ring  laugh.gif

Anway, some interview with Josh and Wyatt:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...iew#more-368822

Basically, nothing new...
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If i were you, I would have spent it.
It is considered extremely cheap to spend few hundred millions gold on a gear and get back 10K+ DPS in return.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 16 2013, 06:53 PM)
If i were you, I would have spent it.
It is considered extremely cheap to spend few hundred millions gold on a gear and get back 10K+ DPS in return.
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+1 the DPS more number v need tat should v pay for thumbup.gif

if the gold save now, one day should spend more gear up no the end.... icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Jul 16 2013, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2013, 04:07 PM)
Almost tempted to spend hundreds of mils yesterday to buy some godly gears that can push my DPS to 300k DPS...

I am glad I didn't do it! Not worth spending beezzz / real money just to get another 10% DPS...

Still hunting for a cheap and good cold resist nat ring  laugh.gif

Anway, some interview with Josh and Wyatt:

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...iew#more-368822

Basically, nothing new...
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u was change 4 item swap to cold resist become high AR nice ...however using single LS build , my opinion still not com4table ,if u always solo ingame i think np for u, but 4party ingame not so save ..... blush.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Jul 16 2013, 03:52 PM)
it will happen eventually biggrin.gif
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Agree. Planning to spend half of my battle net balance after itemization or expansion.

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 16 2013, 05:53 PM)
If i were you, I would have spent it.
It is considered extremely cheap to spend few hundred millions gold on a gear and get back 10K+ DPS in return.
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Sorry. It's actually a few millions per piece. >.<

QUOTE(present me @ Jul 16 2013, 06:45 PM)
u was change 4 item swap to cold resist become high AR nice ...however using single LS build ,  my opinion still not com4table ,if u always solo ingame i think np for u, but 4party ingame not so save ..... blush.gif
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Cannot afford LS EF... So try to boost resist. smile.gif Nat boot and TWH just 11 mil. Inna radiance 21mil. He he...
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jul 16 2013, 07:56 PM)
Agree. Planning to spend half of my battle net balance after itemization or expansion.
Sorry. It's actually a few millions per piece. >.<
Cannot afford LS EF... So try to boost resist. smile.gif Nat boot and TWH just 11 mil. Inna radiance 21mil. He he...
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Few millions gold to get 10K+ DPS upgrade. It's worth it. nod.gif
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post Jul 16 2013, 09:34 PM

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hmm.gif Gooding?
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post Jul 16 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Jul 16 2013, 09:34 PM)
hmm.gif Gooding?
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This build will be awesome even in solo after low ilvl legendary buff for Sledge fist.
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post Jul 16 2013, 10:36 PM

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just got my monk build for this ...but in low dps..

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/morph3u.../Monky/21289313
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post Jul 17 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(denze87 @ Jul 16 2013, 10:36 PM)
just got my monk build for this ...but in low dps..

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/morph3u.../Monky/21289313
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Nice tanky build.

In a parallel universe, i mean EU server, there is INVIS... 425k unbuff and 859k EHP with no LS at all. I've been told he walk MP10 like a boss... with no Serenity.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/invis-2291/hero/130395

I dont have nearly as much DPS and EHP, but I do want to experience how is it to have such DPS... So, I did it on MP8 which mobs has 50% HP. Result is just as satisfying!



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