if you are talking about the squatters beside the new road tago is building, they are lot 13717 and lot 13718, daerah kuala lumpur, mukim batu. i saw it in a map from ho chin soon.

Noted. Let me get further clarification on just which plot of land my agent was talking about! Will get back to you guys on the land search haha

My agent says that someone close to Alan Tong told him that the land on which the squatters are occupying is owned by AT. Agent hasn't verified if its true or not. Will try to do a search on the lands next week, if possible

which means the squatters would need to move out soon, when he wants to develop the land?

actually where/which plot of land? just right outside of Anjali (before school area)? or those nearby MK/below NKVE?

hi goo2. Apparently Alan Tong owns the land fronting anjali/the school. But the information is really hearsay at this point. Would be great news if Bukit Kiara Properties owns those parcels of land but I don't want to be too optimistic just yet lol. I'll believe it when I see it - land search. Anyways, Alan Tong has never come out to say he is looking to develop in segambut dalam (or has he?). So I'm actually alil' sceptical

Hey abd, runner tells me i need the hsd numbers to do a land search. Do u know them? Haha

nope, unfortunately i don't have those numbers. but thanks for trying haha...

i found something else though:

http://www.e-warta.com.my/ewds/docs/a_gn/W...11102013%29.pdf
http://www.e-warta.com.my/ewds/docs/a_gn/W...12092014%29.pdf

govt docs listing those land that might be acquired for construction of jalan segambut-mont kiara. the lots 13717 and 13718 are included.

i guess only after the road is done that the land owner will do something with it.

Interesting! Are they acquiring the whole or only part of those lots?

Oddly i found the PT numbers for the respective lot numbers from e-warta after looking at your attachments. I've asked the runner to try to do a search with those PT numbers. Not sure if they are the right numbers but am hoping for the best.

i have been looking at this area recently, either Scenaria or Anjali.
Pros and Cons?

Great! hope the PT numbers are useful. I'm guessing due to cost they won't acquire wholly if the land isn't completely within the road alignment.

welcome, a lot of pros and cons discussed in previous pages of this and Scenaria thread. Have a look at the discussions and visit both galleries a few times, you might find the project that is for you

Hahahihihehehoho, well, the short answer would be.. Pro: Anjali, Con: Scenaria. I jest!

On a more serious note...

I was actually between Anjali and Scenaria. I went to Scenaria first but wasn't happy with the fact that it was a bare unit. Not even an aircon. Further, I was offered a corner unit somewhere on the 21st floor which was roughly about 5 feet away from the edge of another building block. I reasoned with the agent that I could essentially jump from one block to another block! In other words, it's quite a densed condo. On top of that, I think that the road in to Scenaria will probably be a little more congested than Anjali's, what with all the cars parked up by the side of the road already. I note that Prima Tiara 1 & 2, as well as Villa Crystal which is due to be completed in mid-2017, are all situated on the same street as Scenaria.

Anjali however has its pitfalls too. Initially some were concern about the abandoned Azaran Hill Condominium situated just across the development. However, I understand a company based in Muar called Wisdom Realty Sdn Bhd has undertaken refurbishment works on the dilapidated Azaran Hill Condo, it looks really nice now. Now, the biggest concern, at least for me, are some of the squatter-like homes built at the entrypoint of the access road leading to Anjali. Sometime in 2007, I read on E-Warta that the authorities had evicted squatter homes on these lands and flattened it. But there are still homes there now! So I am a little curious as to the rights of the persons occupying those lands. Other than this, the only other thing that I would be cautious about is that the Anjali developer is considered, and I quote my banker, "a Grade B/C developer". They have a rather modest portfolio till date. This is obviously in contradistinction with Scenaria which is developed by a far more reputable company i.e. UOA which has, to state the obvious, an impeccable track record in KV.

In any event, I personally think Anjali is a better choice in this area, at least for me and those who purchased LOL. The developer's vision and desire to impress, has appealed greatly to me. I am betting on the execution bit however. Anywhos, with Anjali, if you pay a little more, you get a low density condo offering 11ft ceilings; fully kitted bathrooms; aircons; a somewhat private lift; and..... a pretty cool kitchen fitted with TEKA ovens and the like. Anjali's architecture and concept, I believe, will draw more of the younger home buyers. It's got so many more "cool" points over Scenaria.

Anyways, this is only my opinion. I am sure many will have their reasons to distance themselves from my perspective of the two condos. After all, no two persons are guaranteed to see things the same way. As such, I suggest you go look around the area, visit the showrooms, do some research online, and see what suits your needs best. Cheerio!

This post has been edited by andrew7787: Jan 29 2015, 06:26 PM

Guys, it appears that Kiaramas Development (Asia Quest) owns parts of the land in front of the school! The rest are owned by malay individuals (family members I believe).

Will upload the land search tomorrow when I get it from the runner.

Edit:

1. Kiaramas Development owns only about 7/20 of Lot 13717, the rest is owned by other individuals (about 11 of them I think). Unfortunately, Lot 13718 is owned entirely by individuals (from the rather blur image of the land search, I gather about 10 different individuals).

2. Kiaramas Development bought their now 7/20 share in Lot 13717 sometime around late 2012. MOT around Dec 2012.

3. Very negligible portions of both lands were acquired from the govt to complete the roadworks.

This post has been edited by andrew7787: Jan 29 2015, 07:27 PM

Thank you very much Andrew!

Great to hear about Kiaramas Development, I've been to their high end condo Ayuria, and they have a few more in MK.

I'm sure they will buy up the rest of the land, because what can they do with 7/20 share? LOL

Actually, you've got a point haha. Yah hopefully the individual owners are desperate for cash with the impending recession and decide to cash in on their lands

really appreciate your detailed analysis on both developments.
i didn't know scenaria comes as a bare unit.. however, i am quite interested in the 5+10% discount offered.

however, leaning towards anjali because the dual key concept looks interesting.
the smaller room can be a weekend home for me or my parents

I did some banker check before i purchased the unit in ANJALI and my banker friend told me the developer is a grade A one so im not sure about that now (coz andrew7787 banker check is grade B/C) XD. But anyway, just hope that ANJALI can deliver an excellent job for their first high rise project. Finger cross.

Yes, my banker told me the developer is cash-rich and grade A too.

Haha. Yes, the Anjali developer is definitely cash rich. My former firm used to (perhaps still) services this company.

Guess my statement about humans having different opinions applies to banks as well! LOL.

PDF land searches are attached.

Apparently if I had the H.S.D numbers instead of the PT numbers, the search would have given more accurate results. Not sure what that means though.

Asia Quest's share in Lot 13717 is also confirmed in http://www.e-warta.com.my/ewds/docs/gn/borang%20D.pdf.

Future looks bright yo!


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