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 Samsung GALAXY S3 Mini OFFICIAL Thread v1, tweaks and tools for SGS3M's

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girl83
post Mar 21 2013, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 20 2013, 11:44 PM)
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wa.. first time charging, from night to morning battery only consume 3%

second time charge, ytd night till this morning, with no 3g, wifi, how come same thing battery consume 20%? suddenly eat battery so much?..... all i move all apps to homescreen will eat battery or widget to homescreen will eat battery? but its in idle mode right?
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QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 20 2013, 11:09 PM)
i did read up all your posts sifu.

thats mean when the RAM is almost full, it will auto close other application so it won't lag right?

when i first bought the phone, the startup not much lag, but when i install many apps, then the startup loading will be slow a bit because of the much RAM consume by apps ?

May i know what is ur free RAM?
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lag could be due to many reasons...

widgets running on homescreens...
apps that request for "run when phone starts" <-- gameloft games are notorious for this.


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post Mar 21 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(blueskylim @ Mar 20 2013, 09:14 PM)
but i dun think malaysia have 16gb version ?
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Yes , Malaysia has it.
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QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 20 2013, 11:31 PM)
true..

i try to "stop" the apps like wechat viber whatapps those consume lot of ram especially wechat but i cannot off. when i try to off wechat, it will automatically goes back and consume ram again. why we cannot turn it off and it will restart itself back?

or we have to use apps killer?
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Listen to me.

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QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 20 2013, 11:38 PM)
yeah guess i need to find the apps killer? lol...
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Hell no ! Don't ever use a app killer/task manager.

Don't u know ? App killer/task manager will damage your phone , I heard from a professional , but I forgot the link.

He says it will damage your phone , so his conclusion is : don't ever download it and use it.

He says he don't know it will damage which part , but it will damage la.
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post Mar 21 2013, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 08:58 AM)
lag could be due to many reasons...

widgets running on homescreens...
apps that request for "run when phone starts" <-- gameloft games are notorious for this.
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i guess during my first charge battery from night till morning consume onlt 3%

second charge night till morning consume 20%

i think due to widget in homescreen or wechat apps / ymail apps/ whatsapp apps etc.... i killed wechat task and it re-reun itself..

maybe those above i mentioned consume a lot of power during in idle mode? or my battery kong liao?

or do u have any battery watcher/ analyser apps to recommend? ...

this one good ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...e=search_result

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post Mar 21 2013, 10:23 AM

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Also, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...0ZXJ5LmZyZWUiXQ

calibrate your new battery using apps is recommended?
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QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 21 2013, 09:20 AM)
i guess during my first charge battery from night till morning consume onlt 3%

second charge night till morning consume 20%

i think due to widget in homescreen or wechat apps / ymail apps/ whatsapp apps etc.... i killed wechat task and it re-reun itself..

maybe those above i mentioned consume a lot of power during in idle mode? or my battery kong liao?

or do u have any battery watcher/ analyser apps to recommend? ...

this one good ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...e=search_result
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my personal experience... when i kill tasks on Android 4.x onwards, it actually caused battery to become warm and also drain very fast.

best way to be sure... uninstall the apps and reboot the phone.

update1:
* i usually leave my phone charging overnight
* if you're using 3g network at night and with those apps running, ya, not surprising since 3g drains more compared to wifi


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QUOTE(limyuyang @ Mar 21 2013, 09:14 AM)
Listen to me.

Your answer is below.
Hell no ! Don't ever use a app killer/task manager.

Don't u know ? App killer/task manager will damage your phone , I heard from a professional , but I forgot the link.

He says it will damage your phone , so his conclusion is : don't ever download it and use it.

He says he don't know it will damage which part , but it will damage la.
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For statements like this, be sure to back your claims with a source, and the source has to be credible as well.

Having said that, task killers have been shown to be unnecessary, but it does not "damage" your phone. If you have a source that can prove damage, please share it.
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 11:59 AM)
my personal experience... when i kill tasks on Android 4.x onwards, it actually caused battery to become warm and also drain very fast.

best way to be sure... uninstall the apps and reboot the phone.

update1:
* i usually leave my phone charging overnight
* if you're using 3g network at night and with those apps running, ya, not surprising since 3g drains more compared to wifi

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Don't charge your phone overnight.

Conclusion : don't overcharge your phone.
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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 21 2013, 12:01 PM)
For statements like this, be sure to back your claims with a source, and the source has to be credible as well.

Having said that, task killers have been shown to be unnecessary, but it does not "damage" your phone. If you have a source that can prove damage, please share it.
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Well , it's not me.

But it's a guy from YouTube ( I don't remember who is it ) , but he says it REALLY damage our phone.
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 11:59 AM)
my personal experience... when i kill tasks on Android 4.x onwards, it actually caused battery to become warm and also drain very fast.

best way to be sure... uninstall the apps and reboot the phone.

update1:
* i usually leave my phone charging overnight
* if you're using 3g network at night and with those apps running, ya, not surprising since 3g drains more compared to wifi

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i off my data network, i think it still will be 3G/HSPA because my area is with 3G?

i stop apps like ymail, wechat, whatapps they will return back automatically

charging overnight wont damage battery?
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QUOTE(limyuyang @ Mar 21 2013, 12:04 PM)
Well , it's not me.

But it's a guy from YouTube  ( I don't remember who is it ) , but he says it REALLY damage our phone.
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People can say whatever they want on the Internet. Whether what they've said is actually true or not .... maybe he had some bad luck and his phone was just waiting to die....

I know you're 14, so start thinking a bit more. It will be beneficial to you. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(limyuyang @ Mar 21 2013, 12:04 PM)
Well , it's not me.

But it's a guy from YouTube  ( I don't remember who is it ) , but he says it REALLY damage our phone.
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that guy is an article writer... for phandroid. chris chaves.

update1:
i believe it's more a personal opinion... but with good reasoning behind it.


QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 21 2013, 12:06 PM)
i off my data network, i think it still will be 3G/HSPA because my area is with 3G?

i stop apps like ymail, wechat, whatapps they will return back automatically

charging overnight wont damage battery?
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turning off your network data means you are not connecting to any mobile network (3G, H+, etc). but if you have home wifi, then it might still connect to home wifi.

as for overnight charging... i'm on of those who believe in keeping the battery at full charge. and also one of those that believe the smartphone is smart enough to know how to manage the battery charging... meaning stop the charging, etc...



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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 12:09 PM)
that guy is an article writer... for phandroid. chris chaves.

update1:
i believe it's more a personal opinion... but with good reasoning behind it.

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Well I've read those few articles that support why you don't need task killers, but they never did say outright that it will damage the device. For most things, opinions are fine but should not be taken as gospel truth tongue.gif unless proven true.
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QUOTE(joytest @ Mar 21 2013, 12:13 PM)
Well I've read those few articles that support why you don't need task killers, but they never did say outright that it will damage the device. For most things, opinions are fine but should not be taken as gospel truth tongue.gif unless proven true.
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agreed.

that youtube one... very sure its chris from phandroid. i know many mistaken him for 'Google Engineer'. smile.gif

that article of his... about not using Task Manager... well, i think what he says is logical. and ya, dun recall him saying it will damage the phone... though my personal experience when i did kill tasks manually on ICS onwards... it caused my phone to get warm and drain battery really fast. so, in a way, it can damage the phone. biggrin.gif

yes, i was killing tasks back in GB. that time, i do think GB wasn't really that good at managing the memory yet.
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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 12:09 PM)
that guy is an article writer... for phandroid. chris chaves.

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I see....Chris chaves .....
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QUOTE(limyuyang @ Mar 21 2013, 12:23 PM)
I see....Chris chaves .....
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this guy? smile.gif

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Christopher Chavez. he contributes to the site: phandroid.com


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post Mar 21 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Mar 21 2013, 12:09 PM)
that guy is an article writer... for phandroid. chris chaves.

update1:
i believe it's more a personal opinion... but with good reasoning behind it.

turning off your network data means you are not connecting to any mobile network (3G, H+, etc). but if you have home wifi, then it might still connect to home wifi.

as for overnight charging... i'm on of those who believe in keeping the battery at full charge. and also one of those that believe the smartphone is smart enough to know how to manage the battery charging... meaning stop the charging, etc...
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but when i off my network data, and i go to phone information, i can see my network is on HSPDA... but it wont download anything.

network data is off , when go to phone information says network is on HSPDA, consume battery? or i start to suspect my widgets on homescreen and that wechat consume battery...

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is it safe to remove original apps? need root to remove original apps?
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QUOTE(girl83 @ Mar 21 2013, 04:26 PM)
is it safe to remove original apps? need root to remove original apps?
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Yesssss

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