hi everyone, my car is a cheap flx, as you all know the soundproof really sucks, so i am wondering is it worth to spend some money to do the soundproof to the car?
is the effect significant? anyone who has his car soundproofed, do you recommend to others? did you regret? please share your experience, thanks

There are a couple of members at the Saga thread who have extensively soundproofed their cars, you can ask them there. To do it properly, it won't be cheap, a few grand at least.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 19 2013, 09:13 PM

yes..worth of money if u get the proper material and right spot

slightly for fun or self satisfaction maybe.
but not really if u spend too much money, nvh will never on par with higher segment. better keep the money for future car upgrade.

after your sound proof improved, probably more sound will be significant. when you fix a sound, you will hear another soon.
most know that, but most also trying hard.

I soundproofed mine with dynamat. Cost RM 1k.
Definitely a lot of improvement.
Problem is now I hear sounds which I have never heard before - squeaks from the dashboard.
You can never win !

Not worth it.

Once your doors are sound proof silent - you will start hearing every damn creak on the dash, loose coins, loose plastic panel etc.

might as well let wind noise sound proof your car for you from all these noise

I think since Saga has a lot of plastic, you sound proof-remove outside sound, the dashboard, and stuff inside rattle. So no use also.

If wanna comfort ride.

In the 1st place shd change into quiet tyre and follow by normal doors + bonnet and behind dashboard sound proof cause usually the sound will enter from behind dashboard of engine noise and follow by wheel spin noise.

The rest can't help much.. Unless u change car

At least soundproof give better audio experience and lesser strain when driving long distance.
Using cheap material is okay to balanced the NVH and funny sound from inside itself
Start with good engine hood sound proofing and 4 doors.

From my experience on preve is material is no difference with saga series.

Look like toy plastic on dashboard.

thank you everyone for the advises, i will consider about it

you need to be firm and clear on what you want and what you're getting.

let me ask you this, to fully sound proof a car typically cost between rm1k to 10k or so.
any "higher segment" car with DECENT STOCK sound proofing cost between 100-300k and beyond not including a long term high interest rate bank loan.

do you need mathematics lessons to calculate which is cheaper?

yeah thats what i did - hood and doors, although i only sound proof 2 doors, f*** the rear door.
however i've surprisingly gotten good comments that my rear doors are solid too... that's probably due to the new rubber linings/seals i've replaced not too long ago. and my accessory installer mentioned that despite being empty, old iswara's door plate is thicker/heavier than most car makes today hence the sturdiness

kinda true.... the best thing is. switch on your stereo and blast it to FULL.
no more annoying noise.

Rear door is always had a solid feel as it not as often being used as the front door. Unlike those limo cab with more frequent rear door usage.
The main issue on local cars with good aftermarket soundproof installation is vibration and rattling issue here and there which is a rail pain to cure.
Padding does help but it not being able to hold for long time.
Good thing, sound proofing increased the comfort ride as better NVH mean less fatigue.

I think some worth it sound proof is the

fender area to reduce some tire noise
roof to reduce rain noise

the rest, hmmm not sure. maybe another door seal.

if wan total sound proof, sound proof your ears with ear plugs. more worth it. RM5 je, can get it from daiso. hahahha j/k.

the best way is to compare the same car's model/make which has been soundproofed. sit in it and compare it with ur car.

however, the thing about sound is ur memory of it highly depends on ur mood. ur mind can shut out sound when u're relaxed. so the accuracy of the sound u remembered during the time u spent in the soundproofed car and later in ur car might be different.

so my suggestion is to install a sound/noise checking app in ur phone. switch it on in ur car, then drive around a bit. most noise checking software will indicate the highest and lowest noise levels (in decibel) as well as the mean. then compare the numbers with the soundproofed one.

at least this way u can be absolutely certain, empirically, about the amount of sound reduction and compare it with the amount of money u're going to spend.

but this only applies wear and tear, i replaced all my worn and torn parts, door/chassis rubber lining/seals even entire door panels due to accident/rust and corrosion.

consider it new, except it is stock.
the same goes to the front doors, except they are way more solid with thick sound proofing materials underneath them

i sound proof my BLM doors...did not notice much difference...passing motorbike sound maybe reduced 5%

the noisiest part is still from the firewall and tires...

basic car is basic car...upgrade till max, u still cant make the car feel premium...with all the money spent on upgrading, better get a better car from the beginning

try KLauto..they got promotion on new material for malaysian car like saga..

i think really worth coz less rm1k for near close to whole car

check it out

QUOTE(siong630 @ Mar 19 2013, 08:34 PM)

hi everyone, my car is a cheap flx, as you all know the soundproof really sucks, so i am wondering is it worth to spend some money to do the soundproof to the car?
is the effect significant? anyone who has his car soundproofed, do you recommend to others? did you regret? please share your experience, thanks

nvh will never on par with higher segment

i am just trying to tell TS that even he is willing to spend much, it will not be on par with those better car.

why are u quoting me, trying to ask me, and trying to be a financial advisor and trying to talk about loan interest?

i dont need mathematics lesson, but u probably need english lesson. please read and understand i) TS question. ii) my answer - before you trying to show your so called pro-ness here.

actually whats wrong with u? butt hurt? just my 2 cents.

yup, those claiming soundproof improve this and that by %%%% is really subjective.
unless the expectation is real low, then spending few K for it might be worth.
i have done soundproof on my blm before, there is improvement. but lol, even a stock persona can pawn it upside down.

Have helped my colleague done the soundproof on all his Saga FLX 4 doors. It does improve into a lot cabin quietness.

Buying the material online and paying my worker to install it, the cost is very minimal and satisfying.

I have done STP Gold audio package for front doors, while roof/rear doors/floor board material was bought from yohannes and installed with my worker. My Preve is very much a quiet cabin though, cruising happily on the PLUS highway while enjoy the ICE.

Worth it or not? If you ask me, definitely. Just need to do it in the right way.

V12Kompressor did on his Saga, ask for his opinion

This post has been edited by allenultra: Mar 25 2013, 10:11 AM

here's the thing: NVH improvement can easily exceed a higher segment stock car when done properly.
those jobs will require stripping your car down to the bare metal chassis and slowly apply various materials to them similarly how a luxury car such as BMW/audi/merc would have, and those sorta sound proofing/insulation is definitely not available on supposedly "higher segment" such the 120-160k range c/entry d segment cars.

so what i am saying here is when you are putting down absurd figures (eg: 10k) into sound proofing, you can easily exceed a higher segment (eg: civic/altis being c segment) car despite being a lowly saga.

do look into the matter more before starting your hostilities and playing around with various forum colors

kindly share what was done, where was it done, how much was spent

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 25 2013, 10:23 AM

ts ask a question, i stated my opinion.
then someone try to lecture about loan interest for 200k-300k car
so who started it first?


a heavily soundproofed saga can pawn a stock teana in nvh? i dont think so. not even on par with sylphy.

it is just my opinion. no need quote and tell me teana cost 140K. saga + 20K only 60K.

2 layer door, roof, hood, bonet, wheel arch, dont nearby my house. cant remember total damage but around 3K.

just sharing for fyi, no need advice installer no pro, material cheapo, etc, etc.

since you're so firm on your opinions, you're free to keep them

a good sound system is more worth the money

gotta agree that lol

diminishing returns - when too much it doesn't make any difference.anyway start to treat your outer fender with quiet tyres.

If you plan to keep the car for long, then you can consider to soundproof it. As some people can just change car every 5 yrs...

Well, noise toleration level is subjective. What others can tahan, you might think that guy is crazy already with such noise... Same like how people like their car to have the strongest bass possible, some just like it simple and nice.

So far, the only regret that I have seen in soundproofing is wrong expectation and also those talk only installer skills.

Your expectation has to be right when sending your car for soundproofed. What to be done, and what sort of a result you can get.

Installer can tell you this and that, and give you a nice %. In the end, what they have done is simply shitty work...

Soundproofing definitely help to reduce NVH, just a matter of how you do it and what sort of results that you are expecting.

Experience installer definitely can tell you more and provide you with better options.

Sorry, but I would just like to add in.

A good car sound system, definitely will have soundproofing done. Unless your definition of good sound system is those that comes with stock car.

lol soundproof and ICE tai lou talking here

No lar, just sharing experience nia.

The expectation has to be set correctly, and your budget is always the best you can get.

as long can cover the other annoying sounds (like a nagging GF) lol

is good to have sound proofing for good sound system especially if you travel on highway frequently. The wind & road noise would mask the music.

Its very easy to tell the difference. Install a decent sound system into your vehicle (have a friend installed those entry level component speaker).

We did soundproof half way and hoop into the car, the sound quality from door left (with soundproof) much more superior than the one without soundproof (door right).

The difference will be much more obvious on those more expensive setup. There are still a lot things for you to explore before come into any conclusion of whether soundproof or good sound system more worth the money.

TS probably wanted only some decent sound proof to improve his ride road, rattle and vibration noise.

if not then better move thread for ICE expert to advice for which sound sytem and where to soundproof first.

blasting music is good for hiding rattles, squeaks and road noise, even without sound proof done.
if you want quality in your car audio, you need a quality system and then sound proof.
if u want a silent and comfortable car without rattles, vibration or road noise without playing your music in car. i think better keep the money or spend it on better tyre.

Agree. Before venture into soundproofing, a good or decent tyre has to be considered as well.

Tyre is one of the source that generate a lot of noise.

both goes hand in hand
(yes i have both too)