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 V10 - Property Prices (Up, Down or .....), and the debate goes on and on and on ...

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Steven83
post Apr 3 2013, 10:11 PM

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Making some deep thought, I must give PKR a chance to prove that they really care for the next generation. At least better than bn for keep postpone the issue. In long run it won't be good for investor and everyone if the market crash. More strict regulation is needed. I vote for strict regulation.
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post Apr 3 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cockee @ Apr 3 2013, 11:07 PM)
Steven, look at the big picture. PR took over Selangor but had to face many resistant from the remainders of the old regime. they spent first two years just to dig out and clean up the shit left behind.
More importantly, without strong opposition we will not know about those mega corruption like pkfz and cowgate. At least PR is fighting on issues like Syabas and Lynas.
Do I think PR is all saints and infallible? No. But they are our weapon against a corrupt regime now. when PR starts to do nonsense, then we vote BN back in next GE. Check and balance.
As for property prices, I rather loss money in short or mid term, but earn back in long term from a healthy economy with less leakages.
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I agreed with this part."Do I think PR is all saints and infallible? No. But they are our weapon against a corrupt regime now. when PR starts to do nonsense, then we vote BN back in next GE. Check and balance.". Lets do a mass cleaning and see how well the opposition can handle the nation, we are lack behind all the developing country. No time to waste.
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post Apr 4 2013, 10:37 PM

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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...5014&sec=nation

What happen to the owner if police found out the tenant was a drug dealer?
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:59 AM

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anyone interested in balik pulau ghost town?
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QUOTE(all blacks @ Apr 6 2013, 03:55 PM)
Don't worry, soon Sunway and P Setia will come out with some fancy large project and make the place "In demand and will turn it into next Batu Ferringhi"
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Serious? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 7 2013, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Apr 6 2013, 11:02 PM)
Since been living there for most of my life... I feel everything was going on smooth till 2008 where few huge developers from KL started to target Png.. So they introduced all this G&G concept with strata title which is quite unusual in Png.. Juz look at places like batu maung, Sungai ara, 5 years ago nt may ppl wanted to live there but now theres quite a number of new housing areas... The condo's back in Png was cheap, for those working in KL and wish to buy in hometown wouldn't be an issue at all but now almost all hitting 500K.. It's all caused by this new luxury fancy condo's which are introduced by this huge developers..

Ppl will come n tell that its nt bcoz of tat but Sg investors, but let me tell u that they have been investing in Png since long time ago and I wouldn't say they're the main ppl who caused the price to shoot up.. Png condo's are having mk situation right now and it might b worse bcoz ppl back in png dont have the same holding/earning power compared to those working in kl... n also the rental yield is extremely bad.. Most of the investors or expats target those condo's in batu ferringhi area but how bout those in town area, those near Jelutong, Green lane, Pantai Jerjak and Bayan Lepas area?  unsure.gif
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Agreed, since 2008 things went unsual. I only know my japanese boss love to stay in batu ferringi, its normal to see they travel everyday. even most of the jam are jam to batu ferringi. But when I ask them about batu maung area onward, they show no interest at all...but still hey..so many property appear there.
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Apr 8 2013, 08:37 AM)
Some of our END GAMES .....

BN manifesto
Building 1,000,000 new affordable homes, including 500,000 PR1MA houses priced at 20% below market rates.
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Tikaram, you are too good to update them....keep it secret, let 'them' surprised.
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post Apr 8 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Apr 8 2013, 09:08 AM)
okok.... my mistake.... i will let them not suprised.... "shocking suprised..." brows.gif
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but pls pm me. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 10 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Apr 10 2013, 10:10 AM)
we must thank the BBB group... they help to sustain our property price.
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what is BBB group?
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post Apr 10 2013, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Apr 10 2013, 07:47 AM)
They have been waiting since years ago, no harm wait for another 5 years tongue.gif
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US, Europe property don't built up in few years, yes no harm wait for another 5 years. You have the similar mindset with those who is up up in US in 2001.
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post Apr 10 2013, 01:15 PM

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US so confident that there is no bubble in 2005.... let see what will happen in Msia. Singapore start to put pressure on property, HK follows, China follows. All we need is a event.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5102602255.html
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post Apr 10 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Apr 10 2013, 04:00 PM)
http://www.starproperty.my/index.php/artic...s-noted-valuer/

Less risk for buyers
More risk for developers
So = price up  tongue.gif
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The government also scare of developer running away just like what happen in 1996, that really create a big hit to the market. It happens on my parents, lost 200k on a wasted land because the developer run away. I support for built and sell.
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Apr 10 2013, 02:01 PM)
Someone have post this since V1 or V2, the guy who post this was diasappeared, now is V10 my dear, the discussion will keep continue till V20 or more
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Don't worry, it will keep going like what you mention. What will happen in the end are the most important and hopefully it will reach v20.

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post Apr 10 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Apr 10 2013, 04:16 PM)
Secondary properties get into the property fair game
Posted on April 5, 2013 - Featured, Investment.
Previously owned homes offer a discount of up to 40% compared to developer units, say organisers
Exhibitions of new projects include the annual StarProperty fair. Now you can also check out secondary properties in the upcoming Maspex 2013.

By now, you know that property exhibitions, or specifically, exhibitions of new property projects, are held several times throughout a year. If you want a new house or apartment, this is the place to window shop all under one roof.

So far, there has never been such an exhibition for secondary properties. Until this year, that is.

Next week, the first Malaysian Secondary Property Exhibition 2013 will be held over the weekend of April 12 to 14, at the concourse of Tropicana City Mall, PJ. Organised by the Malaysian Institute of Estate Agents (MIEA), it will feature booths by 32 real estate agencies with photos and presentations of previously owned properties for sale.

“I remember going to the MPPJ building where you can buy second-hand cars, and asking myself, how can we do the same thing for the secondary property market here,” relates Erick Kho, MIEA vice president, at an interview.

“It’s another avenue for estate agents to promote their properties, and it would be a real benefit to MIEA members,” adds MIEA president Nixon Paul. “We started looking for a sponsor but we had to climb mountains, though, since this is not a tested event.”

Nevertheless, MIEA managed to secure Maybank as main sponsor, and all systems are now go.

How would you exhibit secondary properties though? There are tens of thousands of secondary properties in the market, not to mention hundreds of neighbourhoods within the Klang Valley.

Even if you could put them all under one roof, most secondary property hunters are not interested in all neighbourhoods; they already have a location in mind. And isn’t there nothing better than physically viewing the properties?

The organisers insist that the exhibition doesn’t replace more targeted means of property hunting, such as online portals or newspaper classifieds, however, but instead complements them.

Granted, many of the booths will have screens rotating pictures of all properties for sale, but you’ll also be getting various professionals at hand to answer questions for free.

These include a booth of valuers to estimate a fair price to your property, be it to buy or to sell, and a legal desk to dispense advice. EPF will also be on hand to let you know how much you can withdraw.

The organisers have worked to get sponsor Maybank to offer special interest rates during the fair. Maybank can advise you on how much you may borrow, and how much instalments you need to pay. With the help of agents, you can estimate if the rentals you may achieve will cover the loan repayments.
Paul: Viewing various properties in different locations will open buyers’ minds to what is really out there.
“Many people don’t even know how much money to come up with upfront,” says Paul. “They think they have a budget of RM500K, but when they see they have actually to pay for all other costs, they realise they can’t afford RM500K, that they can only afford RM450K.”

“We will also be having talks about investment opportunities in matured locations, the pros and cons of different properties, how property can hedge against inflation, and how the prices of properties in various locations have performed over the years,” says Siva. “We will identify hot spots around the PJ area such as TTDI, SS2, Damansara Utama, Damansara Perdana, and the places that the MRT will be going to.”

Maspex 2013 will feature a souvenir programme handbook with up to 300 “hot” properties contributed by all participating agencies. “These properties offer 30% to 40% savings compared to new properties,” says Siva. “That alone is worth a lot of money as it will have the best deals in town.”

The organisers believe that an overview such as Maspex 2013 may open your mind to options you never considered before. “This is what happens when we show clients around,” explains Paul. “Sometimes, they’ll come here looking for Section 17, and they end up buying in SS2, because it’s such a good deal. Clients we have taken out and shown have said, ‘Don’t show me a renovated house, I want to buy an old dilapidated house that I can renovate to my taste.’ The next thing you know, they buy a renovated house. So you never know. It is good to hunt with an open mind.”

Affordable homes available in secondary property

“There’s been so much hype about affordable housing, that prices have gone so high, and I cannot afford this and that, but actually they are all here, you’re just not looking, they’re in secondary properties,” suggests Paul. “For example, do you know in Paramount you can buy a condo for RM400,000? And a single storey terrace house near Section 14, PJ, was recently transacted for RM450K. When I tell people, they ask, ‘Got ah, so cheap?’”

Of course, these properties are not new. If one were willing to overlook that however, secondary properties represent a discount of between 30% to 40% compared to developer properties, say the organisers.

“Let’s take a prime location, KLCC,” offered Paul. “For newer condos, you are probably paying about RM1,000 per sq ft. But in 202DC, near the British High Commission, for example, you can get apartments for RM600 per sq ft.

“With secondary properties, you’re also guaranteed a matured location. Everything is there, conveniences, supermarket, public transport, and a ready demand if you are looking for tenants. Most importantly, if you wanted to live close to your parents in a mature location, you would more likely find it in a secondary property, than in a developer property which tends to be further away from the city.”

“You can also start renting out immediately, unlike primary properties where you have to wait two to four years until completion. In thise case, when the CF is completed, there is a rush to rent out or sell the units, and you don’t know what kind of price or rental you can achieve.”

In the process of organising Maspex 2013, MIEA has had to postpone their event a couple of times to avoid coming head-to-head with the elections. Whatever happens, the show will go on, however, says Siva.

Indeed if they could join in the spirit of the polls, it seems as this organisation of estate agents would ask you to vote for secondary properties rather than developer properties. And the place to cast your vote, they urge, would be the upcoming Maspex 2013!

Maspex 2013 will run from 11am to 8pm, on Friday to Sunday, Apr 12 to 14, at Tropicana City Mall, Petaling Jaya.
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Yeah. I notice it. Looks like they start to clear off secondary first, in order to move the market. First time see this kind of thing in my life for so many years.
http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-ne...-but-still-chea

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post Apr 10 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Apr 10 2013, 04:15 PM)
This part yes. Good for us as abandon projects may not put us in danger but i think developer will increase the price. Bad for our pocket. Got pros and cons
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Bad for pocket, but safe for market. Once kena burn baru tahu, my parent stop purchase property since 1996....
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post Apr 10 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Rooney1985 @ Apr 10 2013, 02:20 PM)
Thanks for the article... Some others who cannot take unfavourable news to them will always make, how shall I put this in a nice way..., not smart comments... They should instead just keep silent... Rofl!!

Thanks again
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I still surprise that HK HSBC put loan on cap control for the first time for so many years.
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post Apr 10 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(worgen @ Apr 10 2013, 08:03 PM)
built and sell = up up up mang!  rclxms.gif
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so confident, I think its another strategy from the government to control property prices? later the government will cap the loan...lets see how it works out if both of the things takes place.
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QUOTE(worgen @ Apr 10 2013, 08:24 PM)
weak financial and small timer developers close shop. left big strong players. less supply.  thumbup.gif
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looks like you are not aware that big strong players sub their project to small contractor/developer...

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post Apr 10 2013, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(worgen @ Apr 10 2013, 08:35 PM)
haha...sub to contractors, i heard before la. but sub to developer?  rclxub.gif or you mean rm2 subsidaries?  icon_question.gif
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yes. each developer from big to small fish also got collaboration not just limited to contractors.This call you rub my back, I rub your back. biggrin.gif. So sometimes you will see some complain on setia property. You know what I mean...oops giving out too much info. I will close my mouth. brows.gif

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post Apr 10 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(worgen @ Apr 10 2013, 10:00 PM)
not even an info. lol.  rm2 subsidaries exist donkey years. loop holes.bts eliminate bad developers and abandon project. btw,do you understd what is bts? oops mayb i leak out to much info to you. you also can register rm2 company and be the ceo. brows.gif
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I think you don't understand that bts was not been implemented yet? its only a "maybe".And there is always "ways" to create another loop holes. that rm2 I know, because I have the info of its background. Quite popular during 1996 times...oops I'm leaking more info to you.

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