other options for SFTV9822FC
Older Designer Products
SFTV9622FC (RM85) dont not mulitsocket feature on it
SFTV9622FC (RM92) have mulitsocket feature on it
conclusion: perhaps ur tv set already have the extension cord, u just plug the power plug onto new desinged SFTV9822FC, and then SFTV9822FC plug onto wall socket... DONE... i using SFTV9822FC on my house tv set and astro too, the signal wont reduce after use it...

other options for SF9512DSL MS2+3
SF9512DSL (RM68) dont not mulitsocket feature on it
conclusion: better stick with mulitsockets to get life easier...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 13 2006, 09:48 AM

tat should not problem, very low power consumption

but if u want to play safe, u have other option:
NILI9920F (10A) have the fuse feature
SL-AR (3A) will auto reset (auto off the power when detected ligthning) and for sensitive equipments

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 13 2006, 10:00 AM

SLMS4 have a multisocket like the picture at 1st page displayed, it also jz a ordinary power supply isolator...
but NILI9920F, SC0039, SLAR only have 1 socket, but the feature is better than SLMS4...

SLMS4 : it only used as a power supply... if u have other CLLI products and plug them on it, because SLMS4 can support higher voltage... can said tat the Power Line is protected by isolator methods, not using Features to protect...

the product below is more for standalone equipments
SC0039, protect: P-Air-cond/Fridge/copier, features: null (but power line protected)
NILI9920F, protect: PF-Fridge/M-wave/freezer, feature: fuse
SL-AR, protect: P-sensitive equipment/fridge(3A), features: auto reset

since u use for normal equipments, any of them will work for u...
perhaps SL-MS2+3 and MDSD0039 can consider into...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 13 2006, 10:58 AM

Question: Do they have the same featues? Just that the SF9512DSL-MS2+3 has more extension?
Answer: Yup, same features but more extension sockets... SF9512DSL only have 1*3pin power socket; SF9512DSL-MS2+3 have 2*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...

Question: By the way, how do we use the ground wire on the SP9201DSL, SP9201DAF. where to plug it?
Answer: there have a grounding cable attached on SP9201DAF, but not sure abt the SP9201DSL, too much products have to remember ... but u hv to DIY urself to ground the cable on ur 3pin power plug's earth pin and u can extend the grounding cable's length urself...

Question: So can COD at KLCC? Or how long does the posting takes?
Answer: if by post perhaps around 3-7days, will use poslaju...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 13 2006, 02:35 PM

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Cal-Lab not design to sensitive and get burnt easily even detected minor lightning...
it will burnt itself if the lightning voltage too high or cant ground the ligthning into earth effectively... each of the products have different limitation to overcome to lightning, it wont force to isolate the lightning because if fail to isolate the high voltage may caused ur equipment burnt along with cal-lab...

i not sure whether they have the Recycle(Working) Unit, because u cant get a new unit with RM25 only... but u can try to phone them and to check whether they got those recycle unit in their shop

and the price for cal-lab at East Malaysia will slightly higher than West Malaysia if not remember wrong...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 18 2006, 12:41 AM

so fast? nice poslaju services

not too recommended, better stop using ur PC if nothing important and unpluged telephone line to avoid RM25 "penalty", but i can confrim tat Cal-Lab can protect ur eqiupment effectively, so sure still can use when thunder storm with CLLI protected

if the lightning voltage over the cal-lab limitation, it will self-destruct rather than force to isolate...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 18 2006, 02:04 PM

Bump Bump Bump

SC0039 and NILI9920F (only for standalone eqiupment)



if tend to plug several equipment on cal-lab, recommended to get MDSC0039, SLMS2+3, SL-AR and SL9602F... the power cable is longer than SC0039 and NILI9920F and can add additional earth cable to ground the earth cable efficiently...

This post has been edited by gkl83: May 27 2006, 11:17 AM

actually ur house's ELCB act like CLLI, once it sense the high voltage and will jump the fuis... but perhaps it cant protect ur equipment well bcos u have variety type of equipment in ur house... it cant protect well is bcos it cant calculate accurately the voltage limit, it dont know till what the limit in order the jump the fius, perhaps jump randomly....

i have a experienced is the powerful lightning striked my cal-lab, dun hv jump the fius but cal-lab dead... so tat means the lightning surge still will pass thru the ELCB...

furthermore u have different spec of equipment... the power consumption will different, cal-lab have variety type of model for specific equipment....

example
SC0039 design for high power consumption (aircon, fridge, micro owen, senstive equip)
SLMS2+3 design for normal eqiup with low power comsuption (tv, computer, etc)

but if u set the ELCB too senstive not too good also, even it detected the minor lightning also will jump the fius... how about when u travel for 1week and lightning occured tat time, the ELCB jump the fius and ur fridge will stop operating, and ur food in fridge will............. so we hv a solution for this by using SL-AR, if the SL-AR detected the lightning surge, it will reset itself(switch off) and later on will provide power back...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 1 2006, 11:41 PM

FYI, the cal-lab not only a "box", it included the PCB board, i think perhaps it cant fit into those wall socket well... but how about if the users tat not competent to do such eletronic thinggy, exchange the wall socket plug to CLLI product? we should concern abt it... it is better for u to "plug and play" rather than "unscrew and screw"...

in other ways, if u change the wall socket only and every equipment plug on it, the protection will get lower... bcos it design for "general, overall", if design for "specific" for particular equipment will have good protection...

good example here, SP9201 got 3 models (std version, ar version, dsl verion)... so its depend ur need... different equipment hv different needs...
tat the reason tat i said dont set the ELCB too sensitive, i dont think most of the house will jump fuis even the thunderstorm above us... only for some of them concern abt it and modify the ELCB into sensitive level... if ELCB too sensitive, got cal-lab also uselss, not point to buy to protect power line; if ELCB not sensitive, the cal-lab will help a lot

but most the ELCB designed for 240v, maybe till 260v-270v or even more only jump the fuis... but if ur house got sensitive equipments which cant absord the 250v even? then ur equipment dead... but if set the ELCB limited to 241v only, i believe will jump fuis many times per day, because we can know the the TNB's power supply not stable at all... each of the CLLI products have different limitions, pls check the 1st page "CLLI Brochures / Catalogs" 's bottom part... it jz a general information of the limitation for different equipment...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 2 2006, 09:28 AM

RM5 ~ RM25, but depend on what models...

u means Carefree Lite (DIY) ?

u have to locate it where the lamp's light cant reach to the sensor... which means locate at "dark" area even the light is on or u can extend the distance which u prefer... it sound like u can place it on any location which will it bring u effectively and efficiently, even u can locate the sensor outside ur house even ur lamp in ur living room but the most important is the sensor should facing to "day light", not the "lamp light" then it only can detect nicely...

but the HA series hard to make explaination at here, if u want more info abt them, can make appointment meet at office to show u the demo

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 22 2006, 08:10 AM

it is not waterproof... but u can hide it under the roof, still consider safe for u...
will provide u more infomation about it when saturday...

talked to Inventor, he said it is water resistant / weather proof... but it is not 100% water proof

1) it is recommended to ground cable onto the earth pin to provide the best protection... u can buy a plain 3 pin power socket at any DIY hardware shop and then u connect the green cable onto the earth pin, then u plug the socket to any wall socket... otherwise u can unscrew other equipment's 3pin power socket tat u using and connect to cable onto earth pin... but i recommend u to buy another 3pin power socket, bcos afraid u did some mistake if u unscrew the equipment's 3pin power socket...

2) yes. but the warranty not means u can exchange another unit for FOC. bcos the lightning will occur anytime, maybe once u plug the unit onto equipment but lightning striked tat time, tat not means defect product, it protecting ur equipment effectively... if ur units damaged, bring along ur damaged unit to us and pay another RM10-RM25 (depend on models), then we will exchange another working unit immediately and on the spot... if the sp9201DAF damaged, pay another RM15 and we give u another unit immediately

3) if u buy a unit, i wont earn much leh, so cant give too much discount...
if u buy more than few units, will give u discount automatically...

4) SP9201DAF = micro filtter+spliter (bundled with ADSL modem)
there are not necessary to plug another ordinary micro filtter+spliter onto it...
so far dun hv any complain from customer, we did the QA well for each products, we will make sure the quality before market it... even after u bought it and u unsatisfied, u can provide ur feedback for us, we will reimprove our products again...

5) what is ur ETA means?

conclusion: the SP9201DAF only protecting ur telephone line, but the power line is not protected... so perhaps the lightning surge will come from power line and strike ur psu directly even u plugged the SP9201DAF... if u intend to get tat model and dun want to protect telephone, i would recommend u to get SF9512DSL or SF9512DSL MS2+3 instead, sure 99.9% ur pc will be protected

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 25 2006, 01:11 AM

within 1 week, but depend on ur COD location... maybe next saturday or sunday...
if by postage, perhaps u can received on wed, i got a new unit on my hand now

u can ground th cable on the trinity pack 1... bcos trininty also got the grounding features like sp9201daf, even the lightning strike the sp9201daf wont harm the trininty pack... or perhaps u can unscrew the trininty pack's 3pin power socket and located the ground cable...

u can without grounding the cable, but the protection level will decrease... it not design to absord the lightning (even ordinary ligthning arrestor not design to absord ), so if u placed the grounding cable, sp9201 will transfer the lightning surge to earth effecient if it can overcome the surge... if over the limitation, sp9201daf will burn itself rather than "forcing" transfer to earth...

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 25 2006, 10:52 AM

not, it cant support well...
it only design for ordinary telephone system, it will decrease the protection level and signal quality if use for modem... only the SF9512 series or IT pack can support ADSL...
telephone is analog system; modem is a digital system

Hi, i'm ur workmate. if u dun mind pls take me as ur customer to teach me on the products . i think want to protect my alarm system , which is the better product that can i choose on it ?
Answer: SC0039, SLAR, NILI9920F

is the SF 9512 - AR or D is the same product and features ?
Answer: both of them different things.
AR = analog (telephone), D = Digital (56k dialup modem), DSL = ADSL (Stremyx connection)

may i know if i buy the model SF 9512 have include the cable ?? the cable is it the same even i buy the SF 9512 DSL then i still can use in the cable on my telephone line ??
Answer : all of the cal-lab products bundled with the neccessary cables... if SF9512 bundled telephone line; if SFTV9822 bundled with aerial cable, F type cable (astro) and telephone line... it is free hassle to get another extra hardwares to connect cal-lab and ur equipments together once u bought the cal-lab product

SF 9512 and SF 9812 have any different on it id i use it for streamyx??
Answer : SF9812 is depend on SKPX module, we replace the SKPX module only with another new module if it get burnt... however if SF9512 get burnt, we have to replace the whole units because there dont have any service-able parts...

i want to protect my home equipment can i use STV 9511 ?? icon_question.gif
Answer : if u dont have equipments like telephone and astro, STV9511 will sufficent to protect TV, dvd player and speaker system... if u have either telephone or astro, i will recommend get SFTV9822FC instead

For SC 0039 and NILI 9920F is it the same if i want to use for air cond ??
Answer : Both of them can protect 1 hp aircon... the different is NILI 9920F have the EMI and the SC0039 dont have the EMI... ... the "F" words in the NILI 9920"F" is means EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference Filter)

MDSC0039 and SC0039 wat the different there ?
SC0039's cable 6inch long only, cant add extra earth cable, and use for ONE equipment only
MDSC0039's cable was around 1meter long, can add extra earth cable to enchance to protection level and can use for multiple equipments

When can i use the SLMS 2 + 3 and the twin power pack
For the users who have a lot of the eqiupments to plug from the same wall socket and the total current is under 10A...

u mean that the alarm system is use SC0039, but today i have a customer n take SF 9512 to do exchange..that time i have call to HQ but they said can use SF 9512 D to protect the alarm system . so is the real or not ?
Answer: if the alarm system is inculded the telephone features, like once trigger the alarm system it contact to the security centre and shop owners directly... then have the use SF9512AR

If one company having a keyphone system , then the SPKX M AR spoilt so that mean i just ask them to change the SPKX M AR eough is it ? then is want to buy 20 unit so wat price i have to give ? ( sms me the figure )
Answer: refer to ur price guide that provide by office

where to use on SD 9623 if u bought it ? is for PC or power protector only ?
Answer: SD9623 = 2 * SF9512AR... it protect 2 pair of leased line

Wat differences between AV Pack n Satelite pack ?
Answer: Satelite pack have the full satelite isolator module, it can protect well because each module can protect the specific equipment if compare with AV pack which it rely on a module but protect all equipment and may decrease the protection level

IT Pack is it use for protect PC set and streamyx only ??
Answer: Yes

wat model is install before / after go to telephone line ??
Answer: SP9201AR/D/DSL

wat model is install before/ after go to ADSL ? wat model is install before / after go to PC set ?
Answer: SF9512DSL/SF9512DSL MS2+3/IT Pack

Model SFTV 9622 and SFTV 9822 have any different ?
Answer: SFTV9822 is a newer product and look compact if compare with SFTV 9622 which look bigger and not so neat

which model u guys recommend to use to protect PC set n streamyx , TV set , satelite set or house equipment ?
Answer: PC, Streamyx = SF9512DSL,SF9512DSL MS2+3,IT Pack
; TV set, satelite = SFTV9822FC, SFTV9622FC ; house equipments = MDSC0039,SLAR,SLMS2+3, NILI9920F,SL9602F (depend on what equipment)

This post has been edited by gkl83: Jun 27 2006, 12:03 AM

it means the satelite feature have it own module, increase protection level because it design specifically to protect satelite (astro) only...

if the AV pack, the satelite will rely on the module which sharing with the antenna, telephone and power feature...