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 [WTS/Bulk] ▲★ CAL-LAB Lightning Isolators ★▲, Authorised Seller@Performance Guarantee

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post Nov 3 2006, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sakuragi @ Nov 3 2006, 10:10 AM)
here my layout plan...

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area need to protect
1. yup protect 1 set PC only
2. got connect but at another room which oledi got surge protector
3. yup...the PC set + modem + router + phone line located same area
4. gimme advice on tis whether need to protect telephone set o not? gimme the opt with and without...

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now was clearer...
i will recommend u get MDSC0039 and SP9201DAF instead, the combination will better than SF9512DSL

MDSC0039 : protect power supply
SP9201DAF : replace the ADSL splitter flitter, it used to split into telephone and modem...

What is unit u using to protect the PC at another room? is it cal-lab brand also? if chapalang brand, pls avoid using it... if the protector fail to protect the PC, lightning will struck ur wireless router, modem... if unlucky whole PC set will get burnt as well...
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Nov 18 2006, 12:38 PM)
Whoa yeAh~! Great Seller u have here!  thumbup.gif

This guy is really patient with me. Actually I order from him like 1 week ago edi but wasn't feeling well so I had to delay the payment. But the moment I paid up, he immediately posted the item on the same day and I received it the next day... really speedy  sweat.gif

Got myself a SP9201DSL to protect my Aztech ADSL modem. I'm quite impressed actually that this is the first time I found a lightning protector thing that can allow ADSL connection to run smoothly. Usually those 'ciplak' telephone surge protector, you can't even dial in your streamyx... hey, support Cal-Lab~~~!!!!
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i jsut try to do my best after received ur money... smile.gif

Reminder to others... the red words is not a correct recommendation... tongue.gif
Only SF9512DSL, SF9512DSL MS2+3, SF9812DSL or IT pack able to protect modem 99.9% safely... Lightning surge have the chances come from power line although rare to happen... Due to some situation, i sold him SP9201DSL only but he have to bear the risk that his modem and pc's power line is not protected...
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 19 2006, 03:55 AM)
i'm currently using a Belkin 75k amp lightning surge protector, i bought it due to my modem got struck by lightning twice in 1 week, before this, i had a belkin 6500 amps surge protector, which really did not work (my modem got destroyed even after using it).

i just wanna know how does Cal-lab surge protectors compare to the overpriced belkins? thinking of getting 1 cal-lab just to protect my ADSL modem. I dont kinda like trust belkin anymore, since the first one i bought didnt work at all. also i want to know how much current (amps) can the cal-lab ADSL modem surge protector handle.

and lets say my modem got destroyed even after hooking it up to the Cal-Lab surge protector, will i get a reimbursement for the damaged modem? my house gets struck by lightning on a very regular basis, i have even seen it struck right behind my bedroom window.
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hi, thanks for ur reply...

is ur pc located near the window or which had grill? if really pls remove ur equipment away from there... the grill able to attract the ligthning surge and "jump" into ur indoor equipment, for the safety move ur equipment into ur inner part of ur house, avoid outer part like window, balcony or another side of the wall was outdoor which exposed to environment... if the wall get wet when raining, it still have possible tat the rain drop attract surge to the wet wall, and the surge will jump into house...

and the correct installation was important too... even u used the most expensive lightning protection, the result that we can know wat damaged equipments... even ur "Front Door" locked but not locked the "Back Door", "Burglar" still able to reach into ur house and steal ur stuffs...

example:
1. refer Post #170, protected tel line, but not protected power line...
2. using correct models for correct equipments, example only 1 set of ur PC and 1 router protected. but have other PCs connecting to the router too... if surge come from power line and strucked the "other PCs" and surge passed thru lan cable and struck router and ur PC

for belkin brands, i had not comments on it... from ur word seem like belkin product is "arrest" the lightning for 6500amps sweat.gif ... a normal equipment can handle up to 13amps only, but is hard to arrest 6500amps surge and caused the devices not effective enough if overloaded to arrest... but cal-lab product is design for isolate lightning, is different with arrestor, the amps that cal-lab can handle was:

Power line:
Isolation Level: 10/5A

Tel line:
Isolation level: 100mA / <500mA

Note: refer page 1 "CLLI Brochures / Catalogs", completed product specification located on the last page

For different equipment have different sensitivity and different version:

1. AV Version: lower signal speed, less sensitivity (auto reset after detected lightning)
Example: Telephone System

2. D Version: normal signal speed, normal sensitivity
Example: Fax Machine, Dial-Up Modem, 512kbps BroadBand

3. DSL Version: high signal speed, high sensitivity (self destruct easily)
Example: Up To 1mb BroadBand or even more, able to reach xxxmb after tested by well-known company

if u worry ur equipment will get struck too after used cal-lab, u can purcahse RM10 insurance yearly, but insurance for ur equipments not cal-lab... if u used the correct models and correct installation... u can claim RM5000 nett even just burnt a modem only after cal-lab assign engineer come to investigate, if they found out tat u done all the things with correct installation (and maybe the ur pc location as well, always stay inner part), and cal-lab fail to protect ur equipments...

but for sure with or without the insurance have the pros and cons... our insurance is outsourced to AIG company, we have a receipt/certificate for u... due tat cal-lab is effective products and had US patented, they working out with cal-lab to provide support to do claiming... but lets said our product not effective enough, sure wont have any insurance company will come to support us, otherwise plenty of cal-lab users which fail to protect equipment (not included those fraud cases) will do the claiming untill the company bankrupt... Cal-Lab have their own happy users, and I have my happy LYN users too (didnt receive any cases about the equipment damaged by lightning after used cal-lab with my proper consulation)... smile.gif

if possible, pls draw up the completed diagram of ALL ur PC connectivity and ANY equipments connecting to each other... I will do recommendation for correct models and correct installations... if still doubt on me, pls make an appointment and meet with me / cal-lab inventor personally... smile.gif

About the cal-lab warranty, we not like other ordinary products like have warranty 1yr, 3yrs or 5yrs... we have the unlimited "warranty" (according LLSWA) even u used cal-lab products for 10years, which means after 10years and it spoiled that time, you can do exchange too by bringing the damaged unit and paying Rm25 (for IT pack) to office, the office will exchange immediately on the spot for a working unit for u... but let say if u plug it by today, then tomorrow have very strong lightning strikes the cal-lab products till damaged, but you used for 1day or few hours only, that was not defect product, it is protected your equipment out from lightning strike, so for tat case we have to charge u RM25 to do exchange too even used 1 day... cal-lab products is used to protect your equipment, if cal-lab products failed to protect your equipment and u did the proper installation too, u have the right to do complain... ur feedback will be appreciated to do the re-improvement... smile.gif

The Information Above Based On My Personal Experience / The Knowledge From Cal-Lab

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post Nov 19 2006, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 19 2006, 11:06 PM)
first off, thanks for the pm.

To answer your questions.

1. My PC and equipment (modem) are not that near to the window.
2. It was correctly installed, i'm an IT undergraduate, things like these are a piece of cake to set up (and obvious too).

The lightning strikes rarely go through the power lines, but the phone line is what caused my modem to be burnt (including the network card which is connected to the modem).

Recommend me a good set up specifically to protect my modem only, since its the most vulnerable piece of electrical equipment i have. (it got destroyed for a total of 4 times already). From the testimonials i see, the cal-lab seem to work, my pc is on and connected to the internet for close to 24/7 so i need good protection. I will consider to buy the lightning isolator from u, but no promises of course (since i just bought a RM170 Surge Protector a few days ago). Thanks.
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but for cal-lab, they not recommended to protect telephone line only if u intended to protect modem... today i just read a news tat a house got a direct lightning strike and caused most of the house equipment burnt... if u insisted to protect telephone line only, i will let u do so but u bear the risks urself, since u not accept my recommendation... sorry tat if offended u...

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since u often get strike from telephone line, i suggest u SF9812DSL model, it have a SKPX module (same as a fuse)... if ur SKPX telephone module strucked by lightning, the cost of replacement exchange was only RM10 if only the SKPX dead... if unlucky tat lightning come from power line and the surge will struck SF9812DSL, it will cost u RM25 for replacement exchange... but RM25 saved ur PC equipments which may cost u a bomb to repair or exchange hardware, its a nice deal for u... smile.gif FYI, u can get SF9812DSL + some extra units of SKPX module... once lightning strucked, u able to change the module by urself with the extra modules and continue the protection for 24/7

otherwise u can get MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF to protect power line and telephone line separately too...

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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 20 2006, 02:13 PM)
oh ya, i did not say i wanted to protect my telephone line only, what i want to protect is the whole modem, which means protection for both power line & telephone line so that my modem is completely safe.
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cant concern with only protecting modem...maybe ur surge come from power line and struck ur PC, and the surge carry from mobo passing thru lan cable and strucked ur modem too... just like protected front door but not protecting back door...

but i would suggest SF9812DSL + spare SKPX module if u 24/7...
more cost effective to replacement exchange and change the SKPX by urself, so u can continue 24/7 with protection after strucked... flex.gif

and all of ur PC equipment (1set PC and 1 unit modem only) power's source come from SF9812DSL by using the multisocket... i can assure that ur PC + modem 99.9% safe... if u still worry the surge will pass thru modem and strucked ur mobo, get SLAN1236 for lan cable... dont worry the broadband speed will reduced, i using SF9512DSL + SLAN1236, my BT able to reach 50kbps++ with my 512 streamyx smile.gif

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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 21 2006, 01:57 AM)
my PC so far has never been damaged due to lightning strikes, only my modem and network card has.

anyway i'll think about it, if my overpriced belkin protector fails again i'll get one IT pack from u. So far lightning has striked my house twice after buying the belkin and my modem is still safe.

oh btw, i have this model which got burnt a year ago SFTV9822FC, it came with my astro.
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u means belkin dead but ur current modem safe?

ur dead SFTV9822FC, can do replacement exchange with me (if can COD) with RM25 only... then i will give u back the working 9822 for u... otherwise u can proceed to cal-lab office located at bandar utama to do replacement by urself...

QUOTE(xetajones @ Nov 21 2006, 10:09 AM)
Its a nice product. Bought from a nice seller and hope nothing goes of to my TV /AV set. I have change 3 TV in less than 2 years because of lightning.
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thanks... pls update me if anything wrong on ur equipment and cal-lab devices

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QUOTE(tong1774 @ Nov 21 2006, 03:32 PM)
So u are the founder/inventor for Cal-Lab? No offence, but i just feel surpress to see u here, if u really are, because if u really are u must be a very busy man smile.gif
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nope... i not the inventor and not cal-lab staff as well... but i met inventor and talk with his sometimes... i helping him to sell his product and provide support for customers to assure tat his product protecting your equipments... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 21 2006, 06:27 PM)
nope, the belkin is still good.
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pm from Xonius, Nov 21 2006, 06:33 PM
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lol, not like that, i have 2 belkin units, 1 6500 amps, another 75k amps, the 6.5k amps is still working, but cant protect my modem, the 75k amps is still working and has protected my modem (got struck twice, but both still ok).

sure, i will get a unit from u if my belkin fails again.

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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Dec 1 2006, 10:11 PM)
hi, just would like to know if you have Lightning Isolator for keyphone (LAEA/25A/0599/M). Pls pm me for price if you have, thanx.
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yes... we have the units to protect PABX...
even the Panasonic and Siemen PABX system using cal-lab lightning isolator to protect their equipments...

the models u need for keyphone system was SKPX-M(AR), MLPX-BB and SL9602F
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QUOTE(RaedeanBF2 @ Dec 3 2006, 08:46 PM)
rite2.. it is a cube sized fuse rite? how much are you selling per quantity? i'm interested.
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depend the number of units tat u ordered... if u order several quantity or above Rm100, will provide u attractive price... smile.gif

do u have any technician to install cal-lab for u? need some unique tools to install those telephone cable onto cal-lab base (mdf)...
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QUOTE(heaming @ Dec 8 2006, 09:18 PM)
Transfered RM85 to your account via Maybank2u. Check PM for my details.
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Yup... Verified u transfer Rm85 into my account... will do postage on next tuesday... thanks again smile.gif
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QUOTE(heaming @ Dec 13 2006, 01:58 PM)
Received the SFTV9622FC this morning. Visually inspected to be ok. However there are two complains:

1.  The coaxial cables should be a bit longer. I understand that the SFTV9622FC should be as near as the equipment to be protected as possible but 1.5 m should not be a problem. The cables supplied are only 1 m long.

2.  Cal-Lab should supply RG-6 satellite coaxial cable (2.4 GHz) instead of the 75 ohm 3C2V coaxial cable for Astro input. 3C2V cable is only good for antenna signal (VHF & UHF) and cannot carry high GHz frequency (Astro) signal.

Anyway the above can be solved by putting in a bit of extra cash in getting the RG-6 cable (for Astro) and a longer 3C2V cable (for antenna). The important thing is that I can rest assure that my electronic audio & video epuipment now are well protected with the SFTV9622FC.

Thanks for the prompt delivery.
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thanks for ur feedback... i will forward ur post to the cal-lab inventor for future improvement... hope tat inventor will reply me about your suggestion

thanks again smile.gif
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An email from cal-lab for Post #195
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Hi Gan,
Thanks for the mail and the link.

Please forward this mail to your friend or quote this mail in the forum.

1. If you've noticed in our Order Form, all models with F-connector are marked "nfc" (meaning no F-connector Cable" is being sold but given FOC)
2. Also, at the option column, there is a choice of "cable' or "TP" (for Twist-on Plug). Both are available as Free-of-Charge options. Why offered as FOC options? Because, we cannot find an acceptable solution to the problem.
3. No cable connector manufacturer can pre-fabricate RG6 cable on to Twist-on Plugs.
4. For professional installers, they can opt for ToP and self-install the ToP on to RG6 (This is what ASTRO installers specify and we comply)
5. For DIY home users, ready made F-C cables can only be on 3C2V. The result? An estimated loss of signal of  1~2%. (by additional length of cable)
6. The longer the cable the higher the loss! Thus, 1-M choice between 2-evils!

Thank your friend in the forum for his valuable suggestions and observations.
Ask him to shoot me a email, if he needs more clarifications.

Regards,
Paul Chang
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Attachment(s), if any, for your info!
Thanks!
Warm regards & have a nice day.
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An email from cal-lab for Post #199
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Hi Gan;
Thanks again.
The problems were not new! And, at CAL-LAB, we do not wish to find excuses for not doing right things!

1. We offered, and still offer, ToP but no length of cable can be a suitable choice for each situation in each home or office!. So we do not provide cable. You should have opted for ToP while purchasing and then find your suitable length of RG6. We even have samples of how to use ToP on RG6 on display! But many still prefer ready-made FC-cable (even with the expected loss). So we also accomodated and offer choice of two lesser evils. We do not expect users to be 100% satisfied. So we mention "nfc" ("sold without F-connector cable" but given FOC - hoping that Free item would not attract too much complaint!
2. There are users who would like to have just enough cable-lengths for each cable involved! Through the past 11 years, we have few complaints on "why not this cable be 0.5 M or 3M (from another)? So we decided to stick to what we do - hopefully would satisfy most users BUT we do not expect everyone to be happy. Thanks for your friend's suggestions anyway.
3. Power supply abormalities? Go to www.cal-lab.com then click on <Vital Info> right at the bottom of the left column on front page. Look at item #12 about different types of surges. Neutral OC phenomenon is mentioned by us. We had once even received a email some time ago from a customer in Seputeh whose house was accidentally supplied 3-phase without proper NEUTRAL wire. As a result, all his household appliances that were without CLLI, were damaged. But 11 of his items protected with CLLI were safe. He happily paid RM25 for each CLLI replace-exchanged. Then he wrote a email to us to thank us! And, he was only using standard CLLI - compared to SL-AR series, which is designed to also protect "low-volt-high-current"
4. We wish we could make everyone happy! But sad to say, it is not possible. So we make decisions (expecting some complaints and probably some happy emails, sometimes). BUT it is our business to provide solutions to dangers from lightning! So, good suggestions are most welcome, when we can adopt and make changes for the better for more users!
5. And so, we put prayers, wisdom, technologies, knowledge, goodwill and lots of mutual understandings into our daily ingredients. Just, hopefully we might live a life less stressful and hopefully help make some other's lives a little more joyful, more peaceful and a little more meaningful! Once in a while, when a powerful lightning strikes, not only our patented ISOLATION technique might save some equipment but hopefully some user's life might be saved (even without the user realizing that someone could have been killed, if not for CLLI's ISOLATION technique! Because, with CLLI you only see badly damaged CLLI, most of the times & all the times so far!)

Regards,
Paul Chang

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1.) My antenal cable head is 1 male & 1 female (come from LCD). But both of my LCD TV & device on the wall is female head. Thatwise now i cant watch the tv. May i know this model is two MALE head or FEMALE head?
i cant 100% get ur means, in order to avoid confusion, i give u cal-lab spec...

FYI, the connector on cal-lab units was female head (1 in 1 out, hole type, same like ur left connector on picture), the antenna cable we provided was male head (both side was stick type, same like ur right connector on picture)... tat means ur wall connector and cal-lab unit was female type...

2.) Should i buy another antenal cable to connect the cal-lab to wall device.
cal-lab provide a antenna cable, F connector cable and telephone cable in SFTV9622FC MS2+3

3.) Can I add another normal 3 pin socket to the cal-lab 3 pin socket? Will it spoile the cal-lab? Pls give a advise.
u can buy multisocket or extension socket and plug on cal-lab unit, wont harm and reduce the protection level, but recommended the length of the extension socket not exceed 2meter and cal-lab unit place beside ur protected equipment... longer length of cable, higher chances to get static charges
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QUOTE(Kantao @ Dec 22 2006, 11:42 AM)
How many pc of antenna cable provide?

How long the cable for cal-lab?

Satellite-Pack (Full Isolation version even at LNB cable)
SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 (RM108.00) + Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00) ->
What is this Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00), what function of this?
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only 1 antenna cable provided, the length around 1meter-1.5meter

the astro module (F-connector) have it own isolation module... protection increased and not sharing the same module... but i dont have Satelite-pack on hand now, only have AV-pack which have the almost similiar spec...

difference between 9622 and satelite/AV pack, satelite/AV pack can support 10a current and more multisocket, less hassle of cabling...
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sigh... will forward ur feedback to cal-lab management, will improve the office to do their work... who u deal with? Joey (young guy) or Aunt Lucy (old auntie)? or is a new staff?

if u confirmed tat units not able to run with with streamyx connection, pls do exchange with office... sorry for inconvenient... perhaps u can ask the staff to try the SP9201DSL to plug on their office's streamyx connection before u leave there...

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 10:53 PM)
Dealt with the auntie at the front desk. Hmmm I'm going there tmrw, if lets say they dun have stock, can i like... make them post it to me? sleep.gif

I know its not in their policy but then again, I have already went there like... its gonna be the 2nd time tmrw...  sweat.gif
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should be not problem for cal-lab to post ur unit to ur front door... u can try to request from them... FYI, i think 2molo they not working on 5th week of saturday...

replied from CEO:
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I will investigate.
We are working tomorrow!
-DSL version is written on the OK-label (not printed in front)

Paul


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QUOTE(xetajones @ Jan 8 2007, 10:48 AM)
Bro what is the difference between DIY and P&S? Mind explaining? Do we need special skills for DIY?
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P&S (power & socket) : u can use the cal-lab units immediately without technical installation such as connecting the power line manually... in simple term was plug and play... example : SC0039 model

DIY : u need some electrical knowledge for installation to avoid miss connect the power line which have 3 cable inside... but it more compact and smaller than P&S version, can customize easily to suit ur requirement... example : SC9517 model
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QUOTE(twenty6dBm @ Jan 12 2007, 07:42 PM)
Hi, i'm interested in the trinity it-pack.
fyi, i'm using it for my pc and its peripherals, and phone line for streamyx.

expecting a total max power usage of nearly 2kW.

is this model good enough?

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IT pack had 4*3pin power socket and 3*2pin power socket

it can support 10A which means can support till at least 2000w according from this calculation 230v, 10a = 2300w but we would recommended not exceed 2000w which able to remain the effective protection level...

if u have other pc connecting to ur modem, tat would different case... if purchase only a IT pack, just suitable for a set of pc and modem...

if u want to use telephone/cordless phone beside ur pc with streamyx... get MDSC0039 & SP9201DAF instead... bcos not recommeded to plug ADSL splitter fitter after IT pack, it only design for broadband signal...

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