Hii.. i just want to know that whether honda civic type R k20A engine can be use as a daily driven car?

Surely can, one of my friends used to drive it everyday for >1yr. As long as you can take the stiff ride though!

Ron 97 only

i-vtec ecu can automaticly adjust ron95,97 and so on. If u say ron97 only. Why B18CR on ron95 no prob, K24A on Ron95 no prob. My dads accord 2.4 on 95 no problem.

can use Ron 95 cos it's minimum requirement just that you feel slightly heavy cos the car ecu will retard the ignition timing to prevent knocking. fill up 95 on weekdays. 97 on weekends when you wanna praaaaang lo.

This post has been edited by seansebastian305: Mar 6 2013, 12:26 AM

this is true, in a way. the problem is, how long can that engine take it when using RON95 all the time? 2 years? 3 max before something starts to go wrong? a high revving, high performance engine tuned using RON98 (or higher) isn't meant to use RON95, fact. u will literally feel the engine become sluggish after pumping RON95 (when it's using RON97 all the while). and after continues usage of that low grade fuel, u will HEAR it grinding itself to pieces. I have 2 high performance engines at home, a toyota blacktop and a 1jz vvti. both also can use RON95 but I don't dare use it 100% because of the side effects. I only use RON95 if I know i'm driving on the highway and not back roads so I don't need to rev it. and I only put 30% of RON95 then mix it with 70% RON97. even that, i can literally know which type of fuel i'm using on the fly, these engines are THAT sensitive, especially the 1jz, once boost and the pump is drinking RON95, immediate misfiring. once it's drinking back RON97, rev until red line smooth as silk.

and fyi, K24A is NOT a high revving, high performance engine. B18CR WILL blow after 1-2 years of high revs if it's not tuned to use RON95. if u r lucky, 3 years will be the max. what's the point of having a race horse if you can't feed it good food?

and back on topic. yes u can use the Type R for daily drive, only if your spine can handle the punishment of that rubbish ride. that's the problem with Jap cars. if they build it for performance, they can't build it for comfort, unlike European cars.

This post has been edited by stormlcc: Mar 6 2013, 05:13 AM

even honda malaysia officially released a statement saying that all their cars EXCEPT for the civic type r can use ron95...the type r must use ron97

they released this statement when ron95 first came out

good info

actually, it should be running on RON 100 based on japan specs... but they (honda) claims that it should still hold on RON 97...but i think depending on the temperature of the day... it might knock quite a bit if driven hard even on RON 97... RON 95 would really be risking it a whole lot (if it runs without big knocks)...

the people who has a hondata flash pro would be able to see it from data logs.. even on normal drives you will see several knock counts creep up from nowhere... imagine running RON 95...

8th Generation Civic TYPE R - Launch Coverage

ride comfort aside.. if you can endure the higher fuel consumption the K20AR uses and higher revs than normal @ cruising speed (especially with some of those after market cat-back or de-cat exhausts noises) and maybe slightly more frequent shifts than normal manual boxes due to the closer ratio (although i think there is plenty of power to lug the car all over the place)...it is a good car to drive...it is just a very expensive 2-lit NA manual at the end of the day in the age of dual clutch boxes..

but somehow, the car is a bit of a worry as i heard honda malaysia will void warranty if they see over-rev recorded in the ecu when the car is sent back for claims (say, for engine failure)... which i guess is a wrong benchmark since honda did not actually brought in previous iterations of CTRs if i am not wrong...

huhu.. same goes with SS (swift sport).. between, civic type-r conquer SIC in every trackday..

You can use RON95 on high compression engine but expect to blow head gasket frequently

CTR only use Ron 97 so less headache about power delivery. Can use daily. But the ride is really harsh. I follow many times at the back can see the car hopping on uneven ground. Thats a visual clue to a real CTR and a fake one.

Well the fake one also can be harsh if already change the suspension with stiff ones.

Even if u cut the spring or change the spring, it will not hop around like ori CTR. Can confirm this easily. Rebound rate and damping rate all different.

coilovers

increase the high speed compression and rebound on the absorbers and stick in 18k front 12k rear linear springs...

should make it a freakin jack in a box..if the chassis don't crack first...

This post has been edited by butthead: Mar 9 2013, 10:54 PM

he hasn't heard of 'adjustable absorbers' aka coilovers.............who the hell still 'cut springs' in this day and age?

Yeah i never heard of adjustable. I don't even know how a RM100K aftermarket suspension with additional fancy gadget that is put on dashboard looks like. Even if u have adjustable, u will never manage to replicate the harsh ride of CTR. Not that anyone would wanna do that in the first place. hahaha. Seriously i never see a CTR un-CTR-ed before. Maybe changed rims. Even then i'll be looking out for its hopping nature. Not that i could spot thats true CTR being parked anyway.

any stupid jap branded coilovers will make your car hop like that, no need any expensive ones (they'll just do the opposite, make the car more comfortable but maintaining cornering stability)

They can install the Type-R suspension right? Or change to after market sport/race springs & dampers or coil over which can even stiffer, and hence will hop even worse.

sadly swift sport is one of my fav fun car. hahaha

Install Type R suspension? Hmm... i have seen a Japanese magazine about the CTR few years ago. They have picture to picture comparison of every changes the regular civic compared to CTR. The suspension system on the CTR...... lets say is very different and complex. So many wish bones, control arms, bushes .. and a bunch of things i can see, but do not know what it is. I do not know if can buy the replacement suspension for CTR and pnp in a regular civic. But the rest of the under carriage especially the steering and suspension stuff are very different. So probably no way u could get a CTR handling just by installing suspensions.

Maybe, but my point is if you want to get stiff suspension setup that will hop, it can be done, so just seeing a Civic hop over the bumps does not necessarily 100% will determine that it's a Type-R. I've seen many regular Civics also hop like that already.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Mar 10 2013, 10:49 AM

Thats the thing. Regular civic not CTR. I hardly ever see any regular civic with hoppy suspensions. Would anyone paint their champion white CTR to another color? Wrap maybe. The jump is not pronounced, but visible. I seen many times on the road that i think i developed a stupid skill that can spot a clone one easily.

i pump 95 with lucas octane booster. Way cheaper than pumping vpower racing.

wow bro, u may want to consider getting a life. it's bad for your health to be that OCD on a specific car

does it work?

Its kind of boring and interesting at the same time to see how many of these FD on the road. So i end up making stupid car games when i drive to work and anywhere. My passenger friends thought i am kinda nuts when i say this car has this and that car has that. I drive too much. Thats the problem.

the result of traffic jams can make up games like these. car guessing game anyone?

Naaahhh.... car guessing game is more like super ah beng modified till dunno what car it is already. Though being in Puchong, those cars seriously mostly belong to Indians. No thanks to a sport rim brand car club.

i mean guess the car (on the opposite lane) that is very far ahead and got some car blocking it and see who can guess what car is it. well, traffic jam really too much time on hour hands, we can wait till the car comes nearer and decides who wins.

Hmm... never thought of that. I worry i will make the car in front of me not virgin.....

Yup, works well. May be better than vpower racing. But that's just my feel. But definitely better than 95.