QUOTE(jerrymax @ May 23 2013, 04:54 PM)
Whats the name of the fund bro,thinking of buying it alsoFundsupermart.com v2, Learn about DIY unit trust investing
Fundsupermart.com v2, Learn about DIY unit trust investing
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May 23 2013, 04:58 PM
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May 23 2013, 06:16 PM
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RHB Islamic Bond Fund and RHB Bond fund any good? Both 0% sales charge.
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May 23 2013, 06:19 PM
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May 23 2013, 06:22 PM
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May 23 2013, 06:27 PM
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With profit sharing, there will be no management fee. Means tha if the fund losing money, they get zero.
Let's say a typical bond fund return, 1 year 5%. 15% is only 0.75%/ I'd say better than u paying 1% annual management fee whether profit or loss... This post has been edited by Pink Spider: May 23 2013, 06:28 PM |
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May 23 2013, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 23 2013, 06:27 PM) With profit sharing, there will be no management fee. Means tha if the fund losing money, they get zero. So it's 15% on the profit charged. Seems decent for RHB Islamic Bond Fund if they achieved 9-10% for the past 5 years? That's FSM Bid to Bid calculations though. Not sure if they took out that 15% fee already or not.Let's say a typical bond fund return, 1 year 5%. 15% is only 0.75%/ I'd say better than u paying 1% annual management fee whether profit or loss... |
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May 23 2013, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(stanny @ May 23 2013, 06:33 PM) So it's 15% on the profit charged. Seems decent for RHB Islamic Bond Fund if they achieved 9-10% for the past 5 years? That's FSM Bid to Bid calculations though. Not sure if they took out that 15% fee already or not. All fees are already deducted in arriving at the NAV price. |
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May 23 2013, 06:37 PM
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May 23 2013, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(stanny @ May 23 2013, 06:16 PM) note: 0% Sc but got 1% exit fees if hold less than 12 mths then wondered why such a good track records fund was NOT recommended by FSM CIS... upon further readings....found that they have a large portion of bonds abt 15%....are still classified as "receive-able" go read their annual reports/fund fact sheet. or here http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=1767 i just bought it on 10 May...and intent to shift to HSBal next week to take advantage of the FSM 1% pro |
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May 23 2013, 06:58 PM
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RHB Bond is even more adventurous@risk-happy than AmDynamic Bond
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May 23 2013, 07:04 PM
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So bottom line, they both no good?
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May 23 2013, 07:06 PM
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High risk, not mean no good. It's up to u
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May 23 2013, 07:07 PM
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Hrm high risk bonds. Usually bonds for low risk.
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May 23 2013, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(stanny @ May 23 2013, 07:07 PM) the current NAV is without considering this. Bond fund has a few grades...higher the rating (AAA) has less chances of defaulting but will give the buyer less interest.... Lower rating bond (ex,..C or D) has higher chances of defaulting but gives the buyer higher interest. go read the RHB bond annual reports you will notice that they are shifting to higher grade loan..... |
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May 24 2013, 08:27 AM
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Good morning, happy Wesak Day!
Lets see how the Asian market fair today? |
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May 24 2013, 08:31 AM
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May 24 2013, 09:20 AM
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May 24 2013, 09:48 AM
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May 24 2013, 10:44 AM
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May 24 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 24 2013, 10:44 AM) haha.. eventually will invest in some stocks. Just that now KLCI is too high, so just take this period to learn on stocks and keep some $$ to invest when opportunities come. then KLCI will continue sky rocket , with Uncle Ben QE3 fuel......all around investor caution will react temporary when the Qe3 fuel run out. Someting like japan nikkei... |
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