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Kaka23
post Mar 9 2013, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 6 2013, 07:25 PM)
U are wrong grumble.gif

Number of units sold : 1311.18
Confirmed Sale Price : RM0.6271
Redemption Fee : RM8.22
Gross Redemption : RM822.24
Net Amount After Redemption Fee(if any) : RM814.02

Redemption fee is calculated as % of the gross proceed, NOT gross proceed/1.01=net proceed

U made me "lost" 8 sen vmad.gif

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ah.. is it?!!! I also blur.. soli soli
gark
post Mar 9 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 12:14 AM)
U know what? That day at the FSM "Lou Sang" dinner, the CEO of Amanah Mutual Berhad suggested that the better way to invest in foreign markets is to buy single-market funds. She reckoned that this way, u can manage your portfolio better. And she's quite positive on Indonesia.

I think she is right in a sense; this way, u can see more clearly which country is performing and which is not, and u can structure your portfolio in a more clear manner.

Problem is, as amateur investors ourselves, how do u decide how much % to allocate to the respective countries? Region allocation is already a headache, what more country allocation. sweat.gif rclxub.gif

What do u guys think?
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You can allocate max 5% to single country if you want to boost certain country. Even if you have regional like Asia ex Japan for example.

So you can still keep the regional amount and boost countries you think will do well. IMHO for single countries best not to exceed total 20% of your portfolio. The other 80% is your 'core' portfolio, which will not change and maintain constant asset allocation. The 20% 'boost' portfolio is medium-term, but change as the situation/economies change...

Treat you core as elephant gun and boost as sniper rifle...

Example of equity 'core' & 'boost' portfolio....

30% Global equity
20% GEM
20% Asia ex. Japan
10% Frontier

5% Indonesia
5% China
5% Malaysia
5% Brazil

This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2013, 10:46 AM
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post Mar 9 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2013, 10:40 AM)
You can allocate max 5% to single country if you want to boost certain country. Even if you have regional like Asia ex Japan for example.

So you can still keep the regional amount and boost countries you think will do well. IMHO for single countries best not to exceed total 20% of your portfolio. The other 80% is your 'core' portfolio, which will not change and maintain constant asset allocation. The 20% 'boost' portfolio is medium-term, but change as the situation/economies change...

Treat you core as elephant gun and boost as sniper rifle...

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But I prefer bazooka, 1 shot kill all tongue.gif

I wonder those who were burnt by PCSF got in how much? 100%? laugh.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 11:01 AM

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Talking of which, my "sniper" (Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund) actually made up 1/4 of my equity portfolio. Back then dunno anything about portfolio investing. Luckily it did not tank like China funds, giving me a tiny return of 4% annualised since 2008 sweat.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 11:01 AM)
Talking of which, my "sniper" (Hwang Global Financial Institutions Fund) actually made up 1/4 of my equity portfolio. Back then dunno anything about portfolio investing. Luckily it did not tank like China funds, giving me a tiny return of 4% annualised since 2008 sweat.gif
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My 'boost' portfolio is..

10% China
5% USA
5% Indonesia

So far so good....the china was the laggard for a while but has now improved. The core portfolio is doing quite well... The china & Indonesia is lumped into Asia ex. Pacific for me...

Looks like your portfolio needs some 'rebalancing'.. mine definitely does... so I am busy moving funds..

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2013, 11:22 AM)
My 'boost' portfolio is..

10% China
5% USA
5% Indonesia

So far so good....the china was the laggard for a while but has now improved. The core portfolio is doing quite well... The china & Indonesia is lumped into Asia ex. Pacific for me...
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Main drivers of my portfolio returns are EM bonds and Hwang Select Income Fund. Current portfolio IRR: 6%, these two consistently delivered above that. The rest +/- around 6%. The monster is Hwang Asia Quantum Fund with double-digit IRR. IF ONLY I had invested in it earlier. doh.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 11:26 AM)
Main drivers of my portfolio returns are EM bonds and Hwang Select Income Fund. Current portfolio IRR: 6%, these two consistently delivered above that. The rest +/- around 6%. The monster is Hwang Asia Quantum Fund with double-digit IRR. IF ONLY I had invested in it earlier. doh.gif
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Remember not to get too attached to good performance fund.. need to rebalance. Convert some of the outperformance to underperformance fund...

What goes up will.... (fill in yourself). tongue.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2013, 11:28 AM)
Remember not to get too atatched to good performance fund.. need to rebalance.

What goes up will.... (fill in yourself).  tongue.gif
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...get shot down in flames? laugh.gif

I know lar, just as we need not get overly upset with a laggard for 1-2 years which might shoot up in the 3rd year, we must also not get too excited with a superstar which might turn out to be a supernova nod.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:04 PM

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hi im newbie here, im only got

kenanga growth &
osk uob emerging market bond

Now i got new $$, where to invest?
appetite: medium.
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 9 2013, 12:04 PM)
hi im newbie here, im only got

kenanga growth &
osk uob emerging market bond

Now i got new $$, where to invest?
appetite: medium.
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Hi there,

Take a look at my portfolio
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3314350

That was last month's position, some changes were made since then but not really that significant. wink.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 12:08 PM)
Hi there,

Take a look at my portfolio
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=3314350

That was last month's position, some changes were made since then but not really that significant. wink.gif
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wow so many fund biggrin.gif HAQ giving me 4% return for around 1week plus, doing quite well tis fund, not affected by HSI slump biggrin.gif i saw they switched their CCB holdings to other things.. great decision, banking is doing bad in HSI currently.
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CCB always sounds wrong to me tongue.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:46 PM

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What does CCB stand for?
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 9 2013, 12:46 PM)
What does CCB stand for?
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My guess is China Construction Bank hmm.gif

As for the indecent version...I don't wanna kena warn by mod laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 12:47 PM)
My guess is China Construction Bank hmm.gif

As for the indecent version...I don't wanna kena warn by mod laugh.gif
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Don't worry about the indecent version. I like in Penang now and I understood that.
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post Mar 9 2013, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 8 2013, 11:38 AM)
Yea, as I said, GEM covers most of Asia ex Japan except for developed Asia like HK, Singapore and Australia.

My effective exposure to GEM except Asia ex Japan is about 9%+ of my equity allocation.

Done - switched all my 100% Malaysian EI Equity Income Fund to EI Asia Pacific Shariah Equity Fund. Should be a good timing, today KLCI in green, many dividend stocks climbing.
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Pink Spider, regarding your recent switch to EI Asia Pacific Shariah Equity Fund, I was told by Morningstar that the fund's rating is dowgraded from 4 star to 3 star. Your comment on the potential of the said fund?


http://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0000GEZX


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post Mar 9 2013, 01:01 PM

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Yup, it's China Construction Bank, even when dealer talked to me CCB she also curi curi laughed abit biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 6 2013, 10:58 PM)
I only sell my profits.
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Finally found your reply. Thank goodness for the 'replies to me' function.
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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Mar 9 2013, 12:56 PM)
Pink Spider, regarding your recent switch to EI Asia Pacific Shariah Equity Fund, I was told by Morningstar that the fund's rating is dowgraded from 4 star to 3 star. Your comment on the potential of the said fund?
http://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0000GEZX
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I prefer Lipper to Morningstar cos it's got 3 different ratings for Total Return, Consistent Return and Preservation. I usually don't bother much about Morningstar. smile.gif

Well, among the Asia Ex-Japan funds available on FSM, this is perhaps the best.

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post Mar 9 2013, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 9 2013, 02:04 PM)
I prefer Lipper to Morningstar cos it's got 3 different ratings for Total Return, Consistent Return and Preservation. I usually don't bother much about Morningstar. smile.gif

Well, among the Asia Ex-Japan funds available on FSM, this is perhaps the best.
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Shahriah compliant fund. What a surprise, I thought you don't like Shahriah fund because it generally posts lower return.

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