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post Jun 7 2013, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Jun 7 2013, 06:19 PM)
Actually, although doing it at night sounds like a feasible thing, the lower temps seem to affect the curing a bit for my LSPs.
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KrisMas did advise on sun baking the LSPs to hasten curing heh

personally i just prefer not having the sun/heat, since i tend to sweat a lot, they do get in the way in detailing as it drips all over the car sad.gif
if that is required anyways, i could just sun bake the car on the following morning, and just layer the car accordingly if i want to tongue.gif


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post Jun 7 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 7 2013, 08:43 PM)
Ahh.. late at night. I just wonder is it hard to work with the rotary tool?  blush.gif  My car is so mess up i'm feeling sad sad.gif
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oh i don't have any rotary/DA tools yet, still hand work (can i blame the lack of tools from being slow? laugh.gif )
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post Jun 7 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 7 2013, 08:47 PM)
Sure you can. laugh.gif question: how do you remove swirls, holograms and scratches? I have tonnes of them on my black car. sad.gif
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compounding/polishing; that one tools will work better than hand unfortunately.
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post Jun 7 2013, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 7 2013, 09:01 PM)
oh what about the internal of a car? all purpose cleaner will do?
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can go with lower strength apc (1:10) or other more specific products such as interior quick detailers that meg sells
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post Jun 7 2013, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Jun 7 2013, 09:13 PM)
can you explain this ...  lower strength apc (1:10)  blush.gif
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this is referring to meguiar's all purpose cleaner that i bought, pictures posted on this thread too btw smile.gif
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post Jun 7 2013, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ChiaKhai @ Jun 7 2013, 09:10 PM)
salute! so many layers by hand?  flex.gif
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no la only single layer, this weekend gonna try out double layer (although as i previously mentioned, probably futile as hell laugh.gif)
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post Jun 8 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Jun 8 2013, 12:59 PM)
what meg product you bought? Sonax is really good, cheap and quality products.
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http://twitpic.com/cv8vnc
http://twitpic.com/cuaz8i

and speaking of sonax:
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post Jun 9 2013, 06:44 AM

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Megs apc 1:4 distilled water ratio, and then turtle wax f21 wheel cleaner (finishing it) , no brushing applied http://twitpic.com/cw3ewc

Either my paint sucks, or I have a thing with rocks (as with my windscreen), counted at least 6 chipped spots http://twitpic.com/cw3oc9

O...k, totally hit a road block while claying: new clay cloth seems to leave some kinda residue while my old one is hardening and too dirty

i wonder my TW QD doesn't have enough lube and/or the polymers/gloss is causing adverse effects on the clay cloth
anyways dried the car with my new osren waffle weave (rm20 lol) and oh boy it does work pretty well, no streaks and only required 2 wrings

maybe heading out with another car after i wake up later to get some clays/lube lol
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post Jun 9 2013, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 9 2013, 09:59 AM)
First time using the clay cloth? There is some kind of layer that needs to be removed before it touches your paint. It is recommended to wash the clay cloth and then use it on your windscreen and windows first to get rid of the layer.
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damn sure as hell didn't got the memo on that layer thing.

how can i tell if that layer is gone or not if i don't want to clay my glasses? (they just got coated on rainx last 1-2 weeks lol sweat.gif )
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post Jun 9 2013, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jun 9 2013, 12:25 PM)
U using clay cloth frm Osren?

K. Here's a few tips. Firdt, like arj said, you need to 'break in' the cloth. A few rounds all around the windscreen would do & soak it really wet before use. Second, you can cut it into half or a quarter if you want, just like normal clay, use one portion and store the rest for later. Third, you can use water (lots of it) or normal shampoo mix for lube...the amount required is just like normal washing, just that this time u're using the clay cloth instead of wash mitt. Remember to rinse the cloth frequently to remove any contaminant removed by the clay cloth. Again, keep the surface WET...not just damp. I haven't really tried it with a qd, but normal shampoo had worked fine for me. Another thing you should know is that the clay cloth is quite aggressive, so more lube/water is better unless the paint is really badly contaminated.

Oh...don't need to use distilled water for the APC la....you're going to rinse it off anyway....normal pipe water ok already....
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yeap.
and i did soaked the cloth prior to using it... just didn't know about the whole "layer" thing. and yeah cut it as erik advised, got 3 more pieces kept in its original plastic box.

i did lube the surface up (and the cloth as well) a lot, and my car was wet after wash (did not dry it) but im getting a lot of resistance from the cloth, if i use force, HAH there's those residue. have to use a lot of apc and scrubbing to get them off as they looked like rubber or glue stuck on the surface oTL
i initially thought my clear coat is done as the entire surface was rough as well, but after apc and a lot of elbow grease revealing the original clean/glassy surface then i managed to catch a breath of relief sweat.gif

btw how do i inspect if the clay cloth is contaminated? clay was easy with the light color contrast, however for the cloth, it's all black anyways oTL

oh i tend to store my products for a long time, might as well use distilled water since i have like, a whole carton of it LOL!
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post Jun 9 2013, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 9 2013, 08:17 PM)
There should be some whitish residue during the first use but if you clayed the whole car I think it should be gone edi LOL

Alternative place to use for the first time would be on the bathroom mirror or another car.
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AH bathroom mirror, gotcha i got one that's damn dirty LOL
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post Jun 10 2013, 08:33 AM

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After 5 hours since 2am, finally done! Clay whole car, polished few parts, whole car double layer waxed http://twitpic.com/cwd0ax

The mirror look from the polished front hood feels so awesome. Still has minor defects and orange peels though XD http://twitpic.com/cwd0km

Even the Rims are waxed, tires gelled for that awesome color depth and shine glossy wet look http://twitpic.com/cwd0qm

Rear bonnet that was polished as well, my head/phone camera didn't look as clear as the front XD http://twitpic.com/cwd0zk

As the sun is coming up the shine is even more awesome;Will post up steps/products used on LYN detailing threadlater http://twitpic.com/cwd1a8

products used:
- 2 ciplak buckets, osren gritguard bucket system (2 buckets to rinse/wash off dirt, 1 for shampoo)
- ciplak wash sponge x2 (1 for overall, the other for wheels/exhaust/mudguard etc)
- threw my ciplak rm10-20 (cant remember price) wheel brush into the trash can since the bristles are flattening and it is exposing its inner metal frame, lol? used it since i was using TW wheel cleaner to finish it off (which i did) and i felt metal hitting metal :/
- Turtle wax F21 Car wash shampoo
- Meguiar's APC 1:4 dilution + Turtle wax F21 Wheel cleaner (yay done, sonax/megs apc and WB combo here i come)
- using the Wheel cleaner bottle (after thoroughly washed/rinsed/cleaned), filled with TW F21 shampoo 1:2 ratio with water (almost 1:1) serving as my temporary clay lube, and this works biggrin.gif
- osren clay cloth
- cant remember brand soft silicone wiper blade to speed up drying process
- Osren waffle weave drying cloth
- ciplak synthetic chamois drying cloth for the wheels/tires/mudguards
- Turtle wax polishing compound (that cheap rm 1x/2x one)
- Turtle wax hard shell wax (that cheap most basic wax lol, i still got half left, it'll take a while before i get to my newly bought megs ultimate liquid wax sweat.gif )
- Turtle wax ICE polish (& wax, AIO stuff; easiest wax i've ever applied/buff off and smells like strawberry, feels like baby oil ROFL)
- ciplak brand microfiber cloth to remove polishes
- Osren premium white micro fiber cloth for the 2 layer wax buffing off

saturday:
- strong stream of water to wash/rinse car
- washed tires/wheels first
- applied shampoo/used the wash sponges for the rest of the car
- proceed to clay, met with difficulties as per previous post
- used megs APC to remove problem
- so just dried car to prevent water spots

Sunday:
- strong stream of water to spray/wet the car
- clay using TW F21 shampoo mixture as lube and the existing water on surface
- dried car
- polish certain part of car: front door, front bonner, rear bonnet, fenders
- applied TW hard shell paste wax, buff off
- applied TW ICE synthetic polish/wax and buff off

(hope i didn't miss out any steps/products, feel free to ask anything sweat.gif )
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post Jun 10 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Jun 10 2013, 11:35 AM)
imho, it is kinda hard to see it on the paint. better to overlap with a few passes to ensure coverage. overall, you get a better user experience than the TW hardshell that you're used to smile.gif so much easier to buff off.
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i doubt it'll be any easier than the TW ICE liquid polish, because that thing... you kinda dont even need to buff off ROFL!

but of course, being a jack of all trades and trying to do every damn thing, something's gotta give and i believe pricing/durability was gone case.

thanks for the tip on ULQ btw, appreciate it smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2013, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 10 2013, 12:06 PM)
Bro better don't use wiper or those drying blades to dry the car. Catch a grain of sand under it and you'll install some funky patterns on your car sweat.gif

Once you have wax/sealant on the car, you can sheet off the majority of the water using a free flowing water like the video below. After doing that I can dry the whole car using only ONE side of a waffle weave towel thumbup.gif
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i use those blades with utmost care and only on broad long panels that holds water. in other words, only the bonnet, roof, glasses, and only 1-2 swipes on the door panels.
and yea, no strength applied, very quick swipes, and inspection for sand/dirt after every 2-3 swipes biggrin.gif
(actually had a bit of discussion about this with KrisMas a while back)

and yes my car was basically stripped naked, with all the intense claying and some APC, how to sheet any water? tongue.gif
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post Jun 10 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Jun 10 2013, 12:17 PM)
nothing beats the user friendliness of a spray wax. but as you've correctly mentioned, we have to give up on the durability (OCW being the exception). I see that you've purchased the UQW as well. I'm interested to know your comparison between TW Ice and UQW. Haven't tried TW Ice but UQW hits the sweet spot for me. Easy to use, nice gloss, nice darkening effect on the paint, doenst whiten the trim. It even fills light swirls. perfect product for me for a weekly top up. the only negative thing is cost. its only worth purchasing when there is 20% discount.
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this TW ICE polish (god damnit TW on the naming lol), the ONLY thing you can't apply to is glass, more towards preventing reduced visibility than harm i suppose.
and as per instructions, you need to wait 3-5 minutes before buffing off? put that shit on the entire damn car, then just wipe after you're done. whole thing took like 10-20minutes lol.

it's a polish so it does correct too, although for my case, i guess it "corrects" the hard shell paste wax underneath it for better gloss definition XD
and atm i guess it's just a sacrificial barrier before my hard shell wax haha.

for UQW: if cost's a prob, buy in a gallon whistling.gif
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post Jun 10 2013, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ Jun 10 2013, 12:18 PM)
Totally bare paint that has been decontaminated and clayed is very smooth and good at sheeting water hehe...
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eh didnt seem the case for me, and with APC used on some spots like the bonnet, and clay cloth with shampoo, and the surface being glassy smooth, still doesn't sheet off water that i still prefer to have a blade doing the job for me

maybe it depends on what's being used as lube? then again that would bead, not sheet
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 10 2013, 01:21 PM)
Maybe next you can try paste wax at the bottom, then spray wax at the top.

I didn't try that yet, only paste wax on paste wax.
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yeap i did exactly that, hardshell paste on the bottom, then liquid ICE on top.

not sure how long my friend wants me to use his ICE polish for, but as soon as i return, i'll have UQW spray wax to substitute it biggrin.gif
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post Jun 10 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 10 2013, 02:17 PM)
Did you pay attention how long the beading/wax can last?
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first time doing 2 layers, so will have to monitor hmm.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jun 10 2013, 05:31 PM)
Hey....I can do that....hehehe...but lousy and crappy 3gp quality though.... tongue.gif

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post Jun 10 2013, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jun 10 2013, 08:29 PM)
Really sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, these type of attitude are very common and its the very reasin i venture into DIY.

About the marker stain, you can try using petrol or diesel. Dampen a cloth and lightly wipe the marks and see whether its coming off ornot. Actually, thinner won't harm the paint if you just use it as a wipe. If you don't feel conmfortable using solvents, u can try tar remover. Come again if the above don't work.
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to add on, can try wd40 too, although for this method, helps if you have car shampoo to remove the oily mess it may create

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