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post Feb 16 2018, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 16 2018, 09:07 PM)
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That's quite decent. Are you online now? I help you add FLAT PHYSICAL on it to make it even better!
I expect it would be around 80-285 phys if my calculation is right, raising from 216.25DPS to about 250DPS.
Turns out way better laugh.gif Forgot how much, 100-300? Forgot to factor in the weapon quality.

Corrupted gem and Vaal gem are two different things. Only Vaal gem can be used for that recipe.
Yes now we can just buy back gem easily from NPC.
Those you want to kept are basically - gem with quality, high level gem > 15, gem that you possibly want to use, and obviously maxed out gem level.
There are several gems that are drop only, that you should keep - Empower, Enhance, Enlighten, Portal, Detonate Mines

Use the text box under the stash to help search/filter items easily,
for example you can type "quality", "vaal", and they will be highlighted. Unfortunately we can't filter gem level.

I hope you actually know how to use the chat? hmm.gif Just press Enter and select the correct channel (party, whisper, local...).
Turn off Global & Trade by clicking their button on the top. They are pretty useless anyway except Global Channel /820 for challenges help & master mission sharing.


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post Feb 16 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 16 2018, 09:26 PM)
That's quite decent. Are you online now? I help you add FLAT PHYSICAL on it to make it even better!
I expect it would be around 80-285 phys if my calculation is right, raising from 216.25DPS to about 250DPS.
Turns out way better  laugh.gif  Forgot how much, 100-300? Forgot to factor in the weapon quality.

Corrupted gem and Vaal gem are two different things. Only Vaal gem can be used for that recipe.
Yes now we can just buy back gem easily from NPC.
Those you want to kept are basically - gem with quality, high level gem > 15, gem that you possibly want to use, and obviously maxed out gem level.
There are several gems that are drop only, that you should keep - Empower, Enhance, Enlighten, Portal, Detonate Mines

Use the text box under the stash to help search/filter items easily,
for example you can type "quality", "vaal", and they will be highlighted. Unfortunately we can't filter gem level.

I hope you actually know how to use the chat?  hmm.gif  Just press Enter and select the correct channel (party, whisper, local...).
Turn off Global & Trade by clicking their button on the top. They are pretty useless anyway except Global Channel /820 for challenges help & master mission sharing.

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greatly thanks to helped mod bow to max limit dps notworthy.gif good point, i almost mess corrupted gem and vaal gem doh.gif start to clear those below level 15 gems;

haha, i just know to use Enter to chat, but then never try the select channel etc; gonna try out lol just tried out, never notice chat section got so many buttons hahaaa laugh.gif

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post Feb 16 2018, 10:08 PM

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After I corrected my math, it should be 100-326, correct?
Which makes it a 266.25pDPS bow, now you don't need to buy Infractem anymore and don't suffer the "cannot leech" down side.
Still, in a few more more levels you can consider other bows like Reach of the Council (2 additional arrows, filtered pDPS >260) or Lioneye's Glare (good roll have >325pDPS).
Those will pretty much be your cheap end game bow. As anything beyond 350pDPS are really expensive.
Which also means, you need to start looking dps from other items/methods. 5 or 6 links for main attack, abyss jewels, dps mods on other items, more aura, etc.

Aside from ensuring your gem setup is proper, which means not even 1 socket is wasted for useless thing, might also want to get a Golem companion.
It's not mandatory.


Leech is a huge survivality aspect of this game. Make sure to get the life leech passive nodes south of your starting point if you decide to get rid of Carnage Heart amulet someday.

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post Feb 17 2018, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 16 2018, 10:08 PM)
After I corrected my math, it should be 100-326, correct?
Which makes it a 266.25pDPS bow, now you don't need to buy Infractem anymore and don't suffer the "cannot leech" down side.
Still, in a few more more levels you can consider other bows like Reach of the Council (2 additional arrows, filtered pDPS >260) or Lioneye's Glare (good roll have >325pDPS).
Those will pretty much be your cheap end game bow. As anything beyond 350pDPS are really expensive.
Which also means, you need to start looking dps from other items/methods. 5 or 6 links for main attack, abyss jewels, dps mods on other items, more aura, etc.

Aside from ensuring your gem setup is proper, which means not even 1 socket is wasted for useless thing, might also want to get a Golem companion.
It's not mandatory.


Leech is a huge survivality aspect of this game. Make sure to get the life leech passive nodes south of your starting point if you decide to get rid of Carnage Heart amulet someday.
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yaya now is 100-326. i think is hard to get better bow than this. to meet orange/rare good bow is hard, rather pick up white bow and alchemy it with some luck. but alchemy hard to farm laugh.gif my suit got big room to improve, that is good thing laugh.gif start collecting 5-6 socket white and will mod it soon.

just now started act 8, i death ~8-10 time to Doedre and cost 40% xp to 0% laugh.gif how many Boss like Doedre after this act? he is totally slowly down until i death.


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post Feb 17 2018, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 17 2018, 08:29 AM)
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Don't waste alchemy like that. You'll need ALOT later for "mapping". There's a reason why people sell trash items for 1 alchemy.
6 sockets vendor for 7 Jeweller orb.
How many bosses to go? Infinite whistling.gif Not joking.
Act8 Doedre fight? Actually easy once you understand the mechanic. Close the valve when available...

As usual, understand a boss mechanic if you want to stop dying, and actually use movement skill gem and CWDT gem setup.

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post Feb 17 2018, 11:32 AM

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Hi guys.. i have a berserk lvl 85 using Sunder (2H axe)

Been following the POE forum on sunder build, notes a almost similar, gears more less similar - but my attack is just 80k DPS with buffs

What went wrong??
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post Feb 17 2018, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Feb 17 2018, 11:32 AM)
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80K and you still not satisfy? hmm.gif
Link your account URL, will see if anything can improve.

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post Feb 17 2018, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 01:24 PM)
80K and you still not satisfy?  hmm.gif
Link your account URL, will see if anything can improve.
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Hm? Saw in global chat.. all have few hundred k DPS... lol

How to link to here ah?
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post Feb 17 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Feb 17 2018, 01:25 PM)
Hm? Saw in global chat.. all have few hundred k DPS... lol
How to link to here ah?
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There's always the balance between DPS & survivality, and skill built in a different way - there is no one fixed way to make a same skill build.
Here's how you link. Or account name + character name will also be suffice, can import the character build into Path-of-Building tool for inspection.

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post Feb 17 2018, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 01:24 PM)
80K and you still not satisfy?  hmm.gif
Link your account URL, will see if anything can improve.
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80k dps - this game still playable? boss few hits death instantly?
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post Feb 17 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 01:32 PM)
There's always the balance between DPS & survivality, and skill built in a different way - there is no one fixed way to make a same skill build.
Here's how you link. Or account name + character name will also be suffice, can import the character build into Path-of-Building tool for inspection.

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ah.. here's the Linklink

u see...my HP is only 2.8k - i think this is darn low, while DPS is max at 80k+

everywhere i see ppl having 6-7k HP with few hundred k DPS cry.gif cry.gif

what went wrong?
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post Feb 17 2018, 06:13 PM

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is this game hero xp cap at level 100? if not we can pick all passive tree
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post Feb 17 2018, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 17 2018, 05:18 PM)
80k dps - this game still playable? boss few hits death instantly?
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Not even close. whistling.gif

QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 17 2018, 06:13 PM)
is this game hero xp cap at level 100? if not we can pick all passive tree
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Don't even think about getting there. It's a huge grind. whistling.gif
If you can get to 90, then it's good enough. Most pro don't even bother with 100 and settle with 90-ish and move on to try new builds.


QUOTE(small-jeff @ Feb 17 2018, 05:40 PM)
u see...my HP is only 2.8k - i think this is darn low, while DPS is max at 80k+
everywhere i see ppl having 6-7k HP with few hundred k DPS  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Yes it's too darn low to a point of completely not viable. Yet you still use a Ming's Heart to make it even worst whistling.gif
I think you cared too much about chaos resist, to a point it ruins every other aspect of your char.
You don't need to care much about Chaos Resist unless you've into farming Breach Chaos Boss.
Most people would just leave it as -60%, since chaos damage are easily avoidable, such as poison cloud and chaos projectiles.
So, go find a pair of better rings. What you want to look for are LIFE, resist, and elemental damage with attack skill.

- your life % on tree is OK, except you almost don't have any FLAT LIFE VALUE on gears for it to scale. 200% of 1 is still just 2, you get what I mean?
- Your chest armor is a complete bad news. Zealot Oath convert life regen into ES regen. That is one mod you don't want for LIFE build.
- need a boot with 30% move speed, more elemental resist and LIFE
- Abyss belt is pretty much a meta these days, it have everything you need, plus a jewel socket for Abyss DPS jewel
- not using Abyss Jewels, this is one method that is so easy to push dps these days, get half a dozen of jewel slots on passive for them.

I'll update this post after I swap things around in Path of Building.


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post Feb 17 2018, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 06:18 PM)
Not even close.  whistling.gif
Don't even think about getting there. It's a huge grind.  whistling.gif
If you can get to 90, then it's good enough. Most pro don't even bother with 100 and settle with 90-ish and move on to try new builds.

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haha mean noob player like me will use 100 level compensate my noob game skill laugh.gif if ranger can get 80k dps then siok lorrrrrr brows.gif

how other player can get so rare item eg: +15% element, rare boot, rare necklace, etc? are them play as party?

i read wiki said that rarity found item is capped at 20%, but then why i got >20% found rarity item(gem) when slain creep? hmm.gif 1 is slain creep found rarity chance >40%, another 1 is found rarity item at capped 20%?


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post Feb 17 2018, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 17 2018, 06:49 PM)
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100K dps is relatively easy whistling.gif
The more you play, the more loot you get, higher the chance to score good stuff, simple concept.
If you keep dying, reaching 90 will already be HELL.

The percentage calculation isn't as what you expected.
Add 50% of 10% and you get what? 60%? NO! It's 15%. That's how things calculated here.

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post Feb 17 2018, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 06:18 PM)

I think you cared too much about chaos resist, to a point it ruins every other aspect of your char.
You don't need to care much about Chaos Resist unless you've into farming Breach Chaos Boss.
Most people would just leave it as -60%, since chaos damage are easily avoidable, such as poison cloud and chaos projectiles.
So, go find a pair of better rings. What you want to look for are LIFE, resist, and elemental damage with attack skill.

- your life % on tree is OK, except you almost don't have any FLAT LIFE VALUE on gears for it to scale. 200% of 1 is still just 2, you get what I mean?
- Your chest armor is a complete bad news. Zealot Oath convert life regen into ES regen. That is one mod you don't want for LIFE build.
- need a boot with 30% move speed, more elemental resist and LIFE
- Abyss belt is pretty much a meta these days, it have everything you need, plus a jewel socket for Abyss DPS jewel
- not using Abyss Jewels, this is one method that is so easy to push dps these days, get half a dozen of jewel slots on passive for them.

I'll update this post after I swap things around in Path of Building.[/size]
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yea.. been trying to get higher chaos res. i though the labyrinth boss spams chaos? anyway, the ring gives 20% extra dmg as chaos, thought can use that to pump up dmg

on elem res.. it's cap at 75% ya? i read the forum.. they said just spam elem res pots - true?

bro.. you mean FLAT LIFE VALUE = +xx Life in equips? i have belly of the beast...best to use that? 5L though

boots - i think i'll just find a new rare

i'm in standard.. so dont have any abyss sad.gif
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post Feb 17 2018, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Feb 17 2018, 07:15 PM)
1- i though the labyrinth boss spams chaos?
2- anyway, the ring gives 20% extra dmg as chaos, thought can use that to pump up dmg
3- on elem res.. it's cap at 75% ya? i read the forum.. they said just spam elem res pots - true?
4- bro.. you mean FLAT LIFE VALUE = +xx Life in equips? i have belly of the beast...best to use that? 5L though
5- i'm in standard.. so dont have any abyss sad.gif

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1- uber izaro is small fly whistling.gif his attacks all can be avoided. I'm not aware he deal chaos damage, majority physical. He can 1 shot people with 5k life if not having enough defense layers.
2- but at the sacrifice of resist and life, rare rings can roll physical & elemental damage anyway
3- if you can keep your flask up all the time, sure. But most people don't want that micro management and cap it 75% with gear, easy. Also to free up flask slot for more important things.
4- yep, flat life value. Armor pieces can goes up to 120+ flat life, ring is around 70 I think, belt depends. Belly is decent.
5- there is. People died from Hardcore Abyss have their item goes to Standard anyway, just that they are much more expensive.

I'm not experienced in melee skills, but here's what I came out with:

Your existing stats shown in Path of Building, numbers might vary a bit in-game:
- total DPS (with sulphur flask up): 73,200
- total LIFE: 2,844

Adjusted passive tree, items, flasks, skill gems:
- total DPS (with atziri & lion roar flask up) 5-links: 133,870 / 6-links: 182,907 <- skill gems aren't max level & quality
- total LIFE (with belly): 4553
^ removed all jewels, there are 3 free jewels sockets
^ added Hatred aura replacing Determination
^ added some crap rare items, obviously there are a lot of rooms to improve on items
Link: https://pastebin.com/D3U9HmT5
Suggest you download Path of Building, import the link above and experiment with it. Compare with your char and see what I changed.


- obviously there are axe out there that are much better if you want to change axe hmm.gif
- changing into a Kitava's Feast unique axe give 20k more dps for example

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post Feb 17 2018, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 17 2018, 07:55 PM)
1- uber izaro is small fly  whistling.gif  his attacks all can be avoided. I'm not aware he deal chaos damage, majority physical. He can 1 shot people with 5k life if not having enough defense layers.
2- but at the sacrifice of resist and life, rare rings can roll physical & elemental damage anyway
3- if you can keep your flask up all the time, sure. But most people don't want that micro management and cap it 75% with gear, easy. Also to free up flask slot for more important things.
4- yep, flat life value. Armor pieces can goes up to 120+ flat life, ring is around 70 I think, belt depends. Belly is decent.
5- there is. People died from Hardcore Abyss have their item goes to Standard anyway, just that they are much more expensive.

I'm not experienced in melee skills, but here's what I came out with:

Your existing stats shown in Path of Building, numbers might vary a bit in-game:
- total DPS (with sulphur flask up): 73,200
- total LIFE: 2,844

Adjusted passive tree, items, flasks, skill gems:
- total DPS (with atziri & lion roar flask up) 5-links: 133,870 / 6-links: 182,907 <- skill gems aren't max level & quality
- total LIFE (with belly): 4553
^ removed all jewels, there are 3 free jewels sockets
^ added Hatred aura replacing Determination
^ added some crap rare items, obviously there are a lot of rooms to improve on items
Link: https://pastebin.com/xb46sGzL
Suggest you download Path of Building, import the link above and experiment with it. Compare with your char and see what I changed.


- obviously there are axe out there that are much better if you want to change axe  hmm.gif
- changing into a Kitava's Feast unique axe give 20k more dps for example

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Wow cool.. thanks dude

I'll try it after dinner

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post Feb 17 2018, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(small-jeff @ Feb 17 2018, 08:07 PM)
Wow cool.. thanks dude
I'll try it after dinner
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Link updated. Fix minor mistake on passive tree. https://pastebin.com/D3U9HmT5
Resist aren't fully capped. That is just one thing that have to fix with gear, finding better stuff on trade.
Ascendency also slightly changed, "40% MORE DAMAGE" is just too hard to ignore.

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post Feb 17 2018, 08:54 PM

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i now level 67 at act 9, 2.1k hp, 2k dps; 8 passive relocate available;
i need 10 more skill points can up 57% life. that time already level 77
then can spend the rest of skill point on dmg and fast attack + socket link
no luck find good item biggrin.gif

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