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post Feb 4 2018, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 3 2018, 08:31 PM)
i just started this game yesterday as archer, current level 12 and i selected tree skill that all related to bow,etc is that good way to play till end game?
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Don't neglect your defense (eg: LIFE), if you flip a few pages back we had some discussions on similar matter of bow related passive tree.
Level up some more, once you hit a point where you die 99 times to a boss, you'll know something isn't right...
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post Feb 4 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 4 2018, 01:23 AM)
Don't neglect your defense (eg: LIFE), if you flip a few pages back we had some discussions on similar matter of bow related passive tree.
Level up some more, once you hit a point where you die 99 times to a boss, you'll know something isn't right...
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you are right, i can feel that already, now i am level 24. i almost fail at the boss which shooting froze/lightning and 2 flying swords (i realized i got no time to check boss name or what so ever his spell, too intense because no confident in fight). i managed to survival use running approach to keep hp regen (luckily got regen item necklace) and hit when hp is full, just expanded +30int +30str. will go for +4% hp skill.

may i know when is right time to use my orbs to change properties or into rarity item? i dont want regret after upgrade common item then meet a better item then waste earlier upgrade on common item. also when i will see 4-6 socket items? now i am level 24.

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post Feb 5 2018, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 4 2018, 04:44 PM)
you are right, i can feel that already, now i am level 24. i almost fail at the boss which shooting froze/lightning and 2 flying swords (i realized i got no time to check boss name or what so ever his spell, too intense because no confident in fight). i managed to survival use running approach to keep hp regen (luckily got regen item necklace) and hit when hp is full, just expanded +30int +30str. will go for +4% hp skill.

may i know when is right time to use my orbs to change properties or into rarity item? i dont want regret after upgrade common item then meet a better item then waste earlier upgrade on common item. also when i will see 4-6 socket items? now i am level 24.
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When you fighting opponent with known elemental attacks, ensure your elemental resist is capped at 75%.
Primarily you want resist from gear only. Don't waste precious passive points on resist-only nodes. You can use resist flask if struggle. There's also resist-aura later in the game.

Use a loot filter to filter out all the crap drops, don't waste too many time and currencies dealing with lower level item. This is mine > https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am7oOP0edqKKjSRmilB_K0izMDad
Loot only rare/unique gears. If there's unoccupied item slots, can throw a few Transmutation and Alteration Orb on a white item see if get anything good.
There are so many dirt cheap items for sale, you much better off buying them if you desperately need something. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/
Ignoring trash drops, kill faster, and level faster is the typical idea.

General idea for gear: LIFE + Resist, boot must have move speed. Then have full sockets and links for proper skill/support gem setups.
Enhance your skill gem with support gems, and make use of all the available sockets and links, are very crucial things to do often new player didn't realize.
It's good to refer some build guide to get an idea of how people setup their passive tree and skill gems, this is listing for ranger: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1810170

If you got something don't understand be sure to do a search into POE Wiki https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

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post Feb 6 2018, 02:36 PM

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Anyone here having trouble with map drops RNG? im stucked at T12 for few days now. never dropped T13 and above.
105/157 Atlas completion.

want to buy maps buy kind of expansive.

Or anyone quitting league can donate me T13 and above maps?
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post Feb 7 2018, 05:34 AM

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anyone have support guardian/necro for maping?
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post Feb 8 2018, 07:31 PM

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haiz too bad, my ranger now level 34, 725HP and death 3 times already versus Izaro. i realized one hit from Izaro is 75% my HP. so i did not have a chance to shoot him, even i used ISIS method fight him face 2 face, he take my damage so so little.

- why the 4 totem cannot be destroy? i shoot one of it till no HP but still not destroy then it revival again to full HP...
- is it my socket items wrong? i just added tornado shot and blast rain (level 2) but i still think i am not able to fight Izaro
- is it my skill tree problem?
- is it this game must use real money buy great items to win?

any recommendation what i am facing notworthy.gif

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post Feb 8 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 8 2018, 07:31 PM)
haiz too bad, my ranger now level 34, 725HP and death 3 times already versus Izaro. i realized one hit from Izaro is 75% my HP. so i did not have a chance to shoot him, even i used ISIS method fight him face 2 face, he take my damage so so little.

1- why the 4 totem cannot be destroy? i shoot one of it till no HP but still not destroy then it revival again to full HP...
2- is it my socket items wrong? i just added tornado shot and blast rain (level 2) but i still think i am not able to fight Izaro
3- is it my skill tree problem?
4- is it this game must use real money buy great items to win?

any recommendation what i am facing  notworthy.gif
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Izaro is normally not recommended to fight as soon as you unlocked him, unless you're really confident with your build.
Wait 10~15 levels to easily faceroll him. He isn't part of the Act progression any way.
Use decoy totem. It works for literally everything, every bosses, buying you time to attack.

1- What 4 totems? The elemental one? Yea just keep hitting it when it buffing Izaro, if they stand down then they aren't buffing Izaro.
2- The important thing is what is the relation of those gems, with other gems and your gears? Is your weapon have good physical DPS? Are you using support gems available at your level to make the skill stronger?
3- maybe, but this is too early of a level to judge. You get some free re-spec points from quest anyway if you felt the needs of them. You can always have more later by using "Orb of Regret".
4, no, this isn't a p2w game. Don't get involved in RMT (real money trading) unless you want to run the risk of getting ban hammered. As you can see the cash shop only have inventory/char slot and cosmetics. Unlike most other games that you gotta farm till death to finally make a good char, PoE isn't one. Making a good char is easy when you understand the game's various mechanics - which is why the learning curve is high, there's a lot of things to take in. It's not the problem of costs, but the problem of "a lot of things to understand".

Don't get upset by a few death. Everything in this game is designed to kill you.
The important thing is you learnt something from those death. If you felt things are going too fast, especially later bosses arena are often a total chaos, try use some recording tool, such as AMD have "Instant Reply" function to save a length of stuff happened into a video you can review.

Bow build typically runs into a problem with their DPS. 99.99% of the time when i play a bow build I was unable to find a good bow myself.
So just search the trade website looks for something better.
Most of those cheap unique bows are good for leveling, refer this list > https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_bows
At your level you can use a Death Harp, later change into a Chin Sol, Darkscorn, or Lioneye's Glare.

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post Feb 9 2018, 11:38 AM

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Just come across this game. Is it a good time to start? What are the best class for leveling/farming? hmm.gif
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post Feb 9 2018, 01:41 PM

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hmm.... last 2 days i stuck the quest ask me to defeat Izaro (labyrinth) , that is the only quest appeared. somehow yesterday i play POE, i see new quest to kill the lady boss in lunaris temple level 2. So i continue to play without go Izaro now. but what you said is true, hard to find good damage bow. i will take your inputs below.

btw, as i play ranger, should my helmet, suit, glove and boot must contain Armor or contain Evating? and i not able to asnwer your question about them gems, because i am still blur about gem in my item socket; many time i got corrupted gem or dark green gem, it did not stated for Bow, i really do not know whether those gem is suit for ranger or it actually for melee or spell hero.


QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 8 2018, 11:11 PM)
Izaro is normally not recommended to fight as soon as you unlocked him, unless you're really confident with your build.
Wait 10~15 levels to easily faceroll him. He isn't part of the Act progression any way.
Use decoy totem. It works for literally everything, every bosses, buying you time to attack.

1- What 4 totems? The elemental one? Yea just keep hitting it when it buffing Izaro, if they stand down then they aren't buffing Izaro.
2- The important thing is what is the relation of those gems, with other gems and your gears? Is your weapon have good physical DPS? Are you using support gems available at your level to make the skill stronger?
3- maybe, but this is too early of a level to judge. You get some free re-spec points from quest anyway if you felt the needs of them. You can always have more later by using "Orb of Regret".
4, no, this isn't a p2w game. Don't get involved in RMT (real money trading) unless you want to run the risk of getting ban hammered. As you can see the cash shop only have inventory/char slot and cosmetics. Unlike most other games that you gotta farm till death to finally make a good char, PoE isn't one.  Making a good char is easy when you understand the game's various mechanics - which is why the learning curve is high, there's a lot of things to take in. It's not the problem of costs, but the problem of "a lot of things to understand".

Don't get upset by a few death. Everything in this game is designed to kill you.
The important thing is you learnt something from those death. If you felt things are going too fast, especially later bosses arena are often a total chaos, try use some recording tool, such as AMD have "Instant Reply" function to save a length of stuff happened into a video you can review.

Bow build typically runs into a problem with their DPS. 99.99% of the time when i play a bow build I was unable to find a good bow myself.
So just search the trade website looks for something better.
Most of those cheap unique bows are good for leveling, refer this list > https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/List_of_unique_bows
At your level you can use a Death Harp, later change into a Chin Sol, Darkscorn, or Lioneye's Glare.
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post Feb 9 2018, 03:32 PM

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for me i just follow others ppl build..haha..there are many build in POE forum..choose 1 and learn from there lol..
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post Feb 9 2018, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 9 2018, 01:41 PM)
btw, as i play ranger, should my helmet, suit, glove and boot must contain Armor or contain Evating? and i not able to asnwer your question about them gems, because i am still blur about gem in my item socket; many time i got corrupted gem or dark green gem, it did not stated for Bow, i really do not know whether those gem is suit for ranger or it actually for melee or spell hero.
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Armor & Evasion debate is a long standing topic since the dawn of time; due to how the game designed in a weird way unlike others that are more straight forward.
Armor = percentage physical reduction. Evasion = percentage evade attacks & crit.
Both get diminish the higher level you get, which means harder and harder to maintain high percentage.
The usual debate is, armor is not good enough for big hit (eg: boss), and evasion is RNG - if it fails you're in trouble.

So, basically, we don't just use 1 layer of defense. Instead we have multiple, block, curse, immortal call, max elemental resistance, convert physical damage to elemental damage (which will need to go through your elemental resist, giving further reduction), or plain old manual evade... Regardless, we always MAX out elemental resistance and as high HP (or energy shield for that type of character build) as possible to provide bigger buffer.

But in a nut shell, we don't generally care much about armor/eva until later game.
What's more important are the mods they have, and socket links.


Most corrupted gem are useless, but keep it for vendor recipe. 7 corrupt gem + 1 atziri map fragment = 1 Vaal Orb.
The way how you check if they are compatible with each other is simply by checking the tags and the description obviously.
Most gems are compatible across many different setups, so you do have lots of option - it just a matter of min-maxing or which gives more dps than another.
Study the picture below (lots of typo...):

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If it does support the skills, a little tag will appear on the hotbar icon as following example.
If nothing appear, means it is not supported.

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Sure, the more support gems you link to a skill, the higher the mana cost will be to cast.
We get around this problem with several methods:
- low level, use Elreon's rings. They decrease mana cost by fixed value.
- suck it up and spam mana pot
- get mana leech on passive tree, we don't use "mana leech" or "reduced mana" support gems, they are complete waste of socket, better use your socket for more dps
- get around mana cost with certain interesting mechanic like "cast while channeling"

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Just come across this game. Is it a good time to start? What are the best class for leveling/farming?


There is no such thing as best class hmm.gif
Because failure or success of your character depends fully on YOU. There is no pre-defined skill trees like other games.
A skill looks boring by default doesn't mean it will be boring after you add some support gems or certain unique items, drastically altering the behavior of those skills.
Try many skills, pick one that you feels good user posted image, find some build guide for reference and go from there.
Or go Youtube/Twitch and see people play, find something that you feels COOL and learn how to build that kind of character. If you don't see many people use a particular skill on one class, pretty much means that skill isn't very optimal for that class, but better optimized for other classes. Obviously not many going to play spellcaster on a Marauder, or a bow build on a Witch because of their starting position on the passive tree; but if you want to make it works, sure, you absolutely CAN!

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post Feb 10 2018, 07:13 PM

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really learnt a lot thing from you notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

i notice my split arrow only got 1 support gem, may be i try place 4 and see the effect, my support gems now are separated to boot, suit, glove. now i am at level 44 and manage to reach at Belly of the Beast, and keep dying fighting Piety. i feel start to vomit this game, seeing the way Piety spell so powerful, rotating the fire whole map and no place to run or hide. i use flask of -35% element or 100% flask evasion also useless hmm.gif the way i look at it now way to win, she keep rotating the shit once i go in arena.

btw, what is trade card of divination? i got 2 now, should i trade?


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post Feb 10 2018, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 10 2018, 07:13 PM)
really learnt a lot thing from you  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

i notice my split arrow only got 1 support gem, may be i try place 4 and see the effect, my support gems now are separated to boot, suit, glove. now i am at level 44 and manage to reach at Belly of the Beast, and keep dying fighting Piety. i feel start to vomit this game, seeing the way Piety spell so powerful, rotating the fire whole map and no place to run or hide. i use flask of -35% element or 100% flask evasion also useless  hmm.gif the way i look at it now way to win, she keep rotating the shit once i go in arena.

btw, what is trade card of divination? i got 2 now, should i trade?
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Support gems must be in the same link (on the same item) to works on a skill gem, obviously.

Boss fight in POE isn't random, they are mechanic bound. Which means you need to learn their move.
Piety in Belly is relatively easy, when she starts shooting that laser beam, stay close to her and run in circle to avoid the beam.
Always have a flask that remove BLEEDING (Piety's beam dealt bleeding), which is an extremely dangerous debuff.
If you don't have such flask, try roll it with some alteration orb on a flask or two.

Many later boss fight are even more chaotic, so little safe place, so you gotta know where to stand.
If you stuck at a boss, it's good to watch some YouTube guide on how to beat them.
It is true though, dps is a form of defense, if you took way too long to kill a boss (say, > 5 minutes), consider fixing your dps. Better weapons, proper gem links, etc.



Cards, just keep it. Most of them don't worth much to sell. You change for item once you collected enough amount for each one.
The number text should be blue if I'm not mistaken, once it is enough cards. Can change with Tasuni or that prophecy woman for item.

If you haven't noticed it yet, one very important survival tip is........ change your left mouse skill to MOVE only (feet icons)

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oh shit, i just killed Piety with the method you said before read ur post. i killed malachai, but how come the guardian Stormlife respawn infinite small guardian which hard too kill. Stormlife forever full HP even i hit him... geez guardian pro than boss

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Support gems must be in the same link (on the same item) to works on a skill gem, obviously.

Boss fight in POE isn't random, they are mechanic bound. Which means you need to learn their move.
Piety in Belly is relatively easy, when she starts shooting that beam of blood, stay close to her and run in circle to avoid the beam.
Always have a flask that remove BLEEDING (Piety's beam dealt bleeding), which is an extremely dangerous debuff.
If you don't have such flask, try roll it with some alteration orb on a flask or two.

Many later boss fight are even more chaotic, so little safe place, so you gotta know where to stand.
If you stuck at a boss, it's good to watch some YouTube guide on how to beat them.
It is true though, dps is a form of defense, if you took way too long to kill a boss  (say, > 5 minutes), consider fixing your dps. Better weapons, proper gem links, etc.



Cards, just keep it. Most of them don't worth much to sell. You change for item once you collected enough amount for each one.
The number text should be blue if I'm not mistaken, once it is enough cards. Can change with Tasuni or that prophecy woman for item.

If you haven't noticed it yet, one very important survival tip is........ change your left mouse skill to MOVE only (feet icons)
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post Feb 10 2018, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 10 2018, 08:13 PM)
oh shit, i just killed Piety with the method you said before read ur post. i killed malachai, but how come the guardian Stormlife respawn infinite small guardian which hard too kill. Stormlife forever full HP even i hit him... geez guardian pro than boss
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Haha sometime you just learn naturally. thumbup.gif

Guardian? What guardian hmm.gif
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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 10 2018, 08:17 PM)
Haha sometime you just learn naturally.  thumbup.gif

Guardian? What guardian  hmm.gif
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ini guardian Stormlife sorry is StormWalker - zero damage to him puke.gif already set to move only left click, no wonder i die many time when open the 3 guardian chest and green color eartquake, stuck inside creep cant run laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 10 2018, 08:41 PM)
ini guardian Stormlife sorry is StormWalker  - zero damage to him  puke.gif
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Rare mob names are random any way.
Might just not have enough dps to burst them down hmm.gif

I suspect tormented spirit...
BUT, there is no tormented mods appear on them-self (which will appear as teal colored text), so there must be one "master" somewhere not shown in this screenshot.
I don't remember what those "chain" visual indicate hmm.gif

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QUOTE(digitalifelesss @ Feb 10 2018, 08:55 PM)
Rare mob names are random any way.
Might just not have enough dps to burst them down  hmm.gif

I don't exactly remember all the stuff but I think that chains + teal color fog on them indicate tormented spirit effects, which makes them even stronger than normal.
BUT, there is no tormented mods appear on them-self (which will appear as teal colored text), so there must be one "master" somewhere not shown in this screenshot.

You might have see this thing flying around and posses a rare monster > https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tormented_Spirit
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i just realized i did not killed malachi, i just killed 3 mini-boss obtain malachi heart, etc, then go Black Core and piety fight along with me, once the fight started, i die just in 1 second, play again, 1 second k.o puke.gif previous boss, at least can run run run and figure out something, this time no miracle anymore doh.gif in this act, the stormwalker and malachi too pro, fail to kill them

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Malachai was final boss for quite some times until Act5-10 came around. It's normal to be very hard whistling.gif
He got half a dozen of moves/attacks, try refer some video guide instead of getting insane zergling him and keep dying.
Throwing bugs, teleport slam, normal slam, tentacle portal, summon adds, in the second stage (yes there is a SECOND STAGE) will also got tons of crazy shits moving around the tiny arena...
Be sure to check out guides online often, this isn't a game that you can just learn everything from in-game tutorial; this game, and others like Warframe - high learning curve but very addictive once you get hang of em'.
DON'T TANK ANYTHING, JUST DON'T. Move outta the way when boss do attacks.

It is OK to trade with other players, reduce the amount of frustration.
GGG decided to put the all-gem-trader-NPC in Act 6 though, so you have limited access until then unless you trade with player (or level up alternate character classes).


^ Some stuff mentioned might be confusing, "cruel", "merciless", those are old game system that is now replaced with 10 act system.

- LMB : move only, don't put anything else here
- RMB: primary attack, ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM 4-LINKED, NO EXCEPTION
- Q: secondary skill
- W: movement skill, Eg: Blink Arrow + Faster Attack
- E, R, T, middle mouse: aura, golem, curse, others.

Your current issue:
- might be very terrible gear, lacking in LIFE & resist
- don't have enough links for primary attack skill, bare minimum 4-links
- no movement skill for fast dodging
- no aura (buff) skill for more dps
- don't have "instant recovery when low life" life flask, try use some alteration orb to roll one
- don't have granite flask, use this instead of the evasion one

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^ imagine how much FREE armor I get when I use this flask and a granite flask (that also have % inc armor mod)... >5000 armor.
The problem with evasion flask you using is, it don't give you a flat value, but scale off from your own evasion (which is possibly pretty low already).
If you want to stick to evasion, you should be using a Jade Flask instead, that gives 3000 evasion flat value. Wiki on flask: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Flask
Bu generally a Granite is much more preferred.

Are you having trouble identify what loot is useful, and what is not by using the default loot filter?
Which is why customizing loot filter is a important aspect of the game. Can try mine: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am7oOP0edqKKjSRmilB_K0izMDad
Put it in Document\My Games\Path of Exile, and select in game settings > UI section
If you download the software Filtration and open that filter file, it should easily make sense to you what it does. And you can customize it yourself.

Having trouble finding items with 4-links or more?
Check Act 3 & Act 4 trader NPC every time you level up, their inventory refresh on level up.
Too low level item cannot have 4-links, so don't bother check Act 2 and below.
You can farm a few rounds in Act 4 Dried Lake if you have difficulty progressing.

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