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nexona88
post Aug 24 2016, 01:36 PM

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MyHSR to appoint Reference Design Consultants for HSR project
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...or-hsr-project/
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post Aug 27 2016, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Aug 24 2016, 01:32 PM)
really hope china not get it, quality sucks... prefer korea japan or france
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Are you sure? Have you rides on China HSR before?
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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Aug 24 2016, 01:32 PM)
really hope china not get it, quality sucks... prefer korea japan or france
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hope the quality is not like China's AMY train bangwall.gif
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post Aug 27 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 27 2016, 06:10 AM)
Are you sure? Have you rides on China HSR before?
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U have ride before??
How was the service & quality of the HSR??
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post Aug 27 2016, 02:27 PM

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Full to capacity...today symposium on HSR....looks like extremely crowded...BBB scenario wor...pics from the Edge...
http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/my/conte...speed-rail-2016
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post Aug 27 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(aberdeen @ Aug 27 2016, 02:27 PM)
Full to capacity...today symposium on HSR....looks like extremely crowded...BBB scenario wor...pics from the Edge...
http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/my/conte...speed-rail-2016
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wow soooo many people..

HSR is really game changer dry.gif
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post Aug 27 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 27 2016, 10:04 AM)
U have ride before??
How was the service & quality of the HSR??
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I have been ridden the following HSR

1. China HSR Xian from/to Luoyang, 380km per way
2. Taiwan HSR from Tai Chung to Taipei, about 170km
3. Japan Shinkansen from Shin-Osaka to Tokyo, 552km

I would say there are hardly any different in terms of ride quality for the 3 HSR, the 3 HSR also on time. China HSR is travelling at higher speed, just below 300kmh. However, the speed is not so consistent as the speed dropped below 200kmh at certain stretches, whereas speed for Japan bullet train is quite consistent throughout.




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post Aug 27 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 27 2016, 05:23 PM)
I have been ridden the following HSR

1. China HSR Xian from/to Luoyang, 380km per way
2. Taiwan HSR from Tai Chung to Taipei, about 170km
3. Japan Shinkansen from Shin-Osaka to Tokyo, 552km

I would say there are hardly any different in terms of ride quality for the 3 HSR, the 3 HSR also on time. China HSR is travelling at higher speed, just below 300kmh. However, the speed is not so consistent as the speed dropped below 200kmh at certain stretches, whereas speed for Japan bullet train is quite consistent throughout.
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ooh good u have ride 3 different HSR rclxms.gif thumbsup.gif

so among the 3, which u think is good for Malaysia - Singapore HSR hmm.gif unsure.gif
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post Aug 28 2016, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 27 2016, 08:19 PM)
ooh good u have ride 3 different HSR  rclxms.gif  thumbsup.gif

so among the 3, which u think is good for Malaysia - Singapore HSR  hmm.gif  unsure.gif
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Both are suitable, even South Korea's KTX is also suitable for KL-SG HSR. I would say China has advantage due to cost factor, speed of construction and also close relationship with our current government. China HSR is already up to par in terms of safety, and there is no major event after major accident at Wen Zhou in 2011.

Singapore is classified as pro-America anti-China and I'm sure they will exercise their rights in preventing award of HSR contract to China. Award of HSR contract to party other than China will also create a major dent to China's dream of HSR connecting Singapore to Kunming.


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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 28 2016, 06:34 AM)
Both are suitable, even South Korea's KTX is also suitable for KL-SG HSR. I would say China has advantage due to cost factor, speed of construction and also close relationship with our current government. China HSR is already up to par in terms of safety, and there is no major event after major accident at Wen Zhou in 2011. 

Singapore is classified as pro-America anti-China and I'm sure they will exercise their rights in preventing award of HSR contract to China. Award of HSR contract to party other than China will also create a major dent to China's dream of HSR connecting Singapore to Kunming.
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Seems Malaysia pick is China HSR, but Singapore is main stumbling block..
So may the best wins blush.gif
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post Aug 28 2016, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 28 2016, 08:05 AM)
Seems Malaysia pick is China HSR, but Singapore is main stumbling block..
So may the best wins blush.gif
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Singapore small percentage only, no impact.
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post Aug 28 2016, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(ahkit123 @ Aug 28 2016, 07:24 AM)
Singapore small percentage only, no impact.
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But both country needed to agree right?

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 28 2016, 07:37 AM)
But both country needed to agree right?
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I would say both governments have Veto Power, regardless of % of shares
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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 28 2016, 08:58 AM)
I would say both governments have Veto Power, regardless of % of shares
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So then how??
If either 1 parties don't agree??
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Did anyone went to the HSR Symposium talk yesterday? Just wondering how was it and perhaps can share some insights tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 28 2016, 06:34 AM)
Both are suitable, even South Korea's KTX is also suitable for KL-SG HSR. I would say China has advantage due to cost factor, speed of construction and also close relationship with our current government. China HSR is already up to par in terms of safety, and there is no major event after major accident at Wen Zhou in 2011. 

Singapore is classified as pro-America anti-China and I'm sure they will exercise their rights in preventing award of HSR contract to China. Award of HSR contract to party other than China will also create a major dent to China's dream of HSR connecting Singapore to Kunming.
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you can see more and more chinese contractor involved in gov project. Some even had singaporean company investment.

public tender are always open and 90% of the time it will be awarded to the lowest bidder.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 28 2016, 10:01 AM)
So then how??
If either 1 parties don't agree??
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The project may be suspended until both parties agree or there may be change of plan, e.g. moving Singapore HSR station from Jurong East to Tuas Checkpoint. In that case, Malaysia will have the say
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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 28 2016, 12:29 PM)
The project may be suspended until both parties agree or there may be change of plan, e.g. moving Singapore HSR station from Jurong East to Tuas Checkpoint. In that case, Malaysia will have the say
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Wah if really happens, then project delay doh.gif
Which means much higher cost blush.gif
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QUOTE(kwwong1 @ Aug 28 2016, 12:29 PM)
The project may be suspended until both parties agree or there may be change of plan, e.g. moving Singapore HSR station from Jurong East to Tuas Checkpoint. In that case, Malaysia will have the say
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Sure boh?
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post Aug 28 2016, 08:34 PM

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The HSR is really about one place: Bandar Malaysia. That is ground zero the ultimate transport hub with ktm, erl, mrt, hsr... Wonder how is the proposition for the residential n commercial at Bandar Malaysia.

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