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izputra
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 Mar 20 2013, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 02:30 PM) its too many thread.. didnt have enough time to go through every one of it.. dont want to trade in lor.. mine working just fine... just now do some reading as lots of people said that 6 speed is smooth compare to 4 speed... i have ask kia service center via email, still didnt receive reply. Paddle shifter can be installed easily for about RM700 last time. But to change to 6 speeder..it will be a tough job..not to mention the cost involve (if possible). Got many things to be done. One of the major thing is the current 1.6 6 speeder is using DBW (Drive By Wire) throttle system while the 1.6 4 speeder is using the conventional throttle system (cable). Gearbox is surely need to be replaced & i believe the ECU/TCU too. Again, it will be a tough job i must say & not worth for just to get the smoothness of the 6 speed transmission due to close gear ratio between the gears. The 4 speeder is smooth enough for me. The 6 speeder is of course better in term of smoothness & for highway drive (due to a bit lower rpm that will give better FC), but in constant stop & go city driving, the 4-speeder might have better FC due to less gear changes (power losses due to gear changes) not to mention a much cheaper cost to replace the auto trans fluid for the 4 speeder. However i believe, all these advantages/disadvantages is ignorable because it's not that significant in figure. I might be wrong anyway...  This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 04:23 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 04:23 PM) thank you for your info. so what i can understand is that 1) it will be expensive 2) its not really worth it 3) 6 speed FC is a little better than 4 speed 4) 6 speed is smoother than 4 speed on highway but really curious about 6 speed... 5) 6 speed auto trans fluid is much expensive than the 4 speed one..so in contrast, the point no (3) above is ignorable..fair enough This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 04:35 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 04:33 PM) thank you for your reply. as for me, my gear ratio is some thing like below: gear 1 0-30km/h gear 2 30-60km/h gear 3 60-100km/h gear 4 100km/h to 140km/h after that, go to D. i will go to service this weekend. may i know when should i change the auto fluid? Should be @ 40k km service interval |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(**no-name** @ Mar 20 2013, 04:25 PM) go showroom and test drive the forte 6 speed, see if u can feel any big difference  I've test driven the 6-speed Forte 2.0..the gear changes is surely smoother than the 4-speed Forte 2.0..hardly able to notice the gear change when driving normally. Pedal to metal from stand still however, i feel that the 4-speeder is a clear winner (drag race). The 2nd gear alone can accelerate no less than 110km/h for the 4-speeder This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 04:43 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 04:38 PM) know any brand that good for auto fluid? mine just reach 35k and up for a service... im sorry if this question is ask by others before. thank you Just use the recommended ATF by the SC will do. As long as u change the ATF at the recommended interval, it shouldn't be a problem. Unless u wanna prolong the ATF change interval, use fully sync ATF might be a good option (but of course the price will differ by much) |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(epo @ Mar 20 2013, 02:12 PM) Opss..are u sure bro? If my memory still serve me right, the change interval should be : - 20k km for the air filter - 30k km for the spark plug Unless u send your car to your own "mekanik bawah pokok ceri"..then u can change it at your own interval..lolz This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 05:05 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 04:53 PM) i always stick with fully sync. thank you. so atf is change on 40k interval is it? or differ with brand and type? The recommended ATF used by the SC for Forte 4 speed is not fully sync as far as i know. Only 6-speeder ATF uses fully sync one (that's why the price is significantly expensive). Both 4 speed & 6 speed Forte need to change the ATF @ a recommended 40k km interval by the SC. Anyway, from my past experience with other cars, i believe that the fully sync ATF can last longer than that. It's up to u actually to decide... |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 05:02 PM) 20k air filter : done 30k spark plug done 40k auto fluid : not done so this interval is right? As far as i remember..that should be right |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(kraxyash @ Mar 20 2013, 04:47 PM) A quick question: ESP is fitted in our Forte. When the ESP kicks in, how does it feel like? Does it warbles? Does it feel like the ESP takes control in quick seconds to stabilize the driving condition of the car? I mean basically, what do you guys feel when the ESP kicks in?  When the ESC (or ESP or VSA or VSC or whatever the name is) kicks in, u will notice that the ESC light shows up on the instrument panel (supervision cluster). How the car react due to ESC activation i believe is depending on the situation that trigger it. In one of my case, i pedal to metal at about 50km/h in speed during raining last time, the gear dropped to 2nd gear, the engine revving higher to red line & the car began to accelerate rapidly..but shortly after that i feel the car slows down & saw the engine RPM suddenly dropped & the yellow ESC light coming out on the panel though i still pedal to metal that time. In this case i believe that the ESC detects that the front tires is out of traction due to wet road surface & automatically override throttle input from the driver to drop down the engine RPM in order to reduce the engine torque (to avoid loss of traction). This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 05:40 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 20 2013, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(awol @ Mar 20 2013, 05:09 PM) i dont mind paying extra for fully sync atf. its better for my car anyway right? so 40km is normal interval but fully sync suppose to be extra? i think i will stick with 40km. that should be sufficient. another noob question, how many liter is ATF? i'm know nothing regarding car, engine etc. 4L If u adhere to the service manual recommended changing interval, u should end up fine  This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 20 2013, 06:00 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 21 2013, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Mar 21 2013, 10:12 AM) Will try that and feel. What is all other fortezan doing with their tire pressure? I just follow the recommended tire pressure. No harm done. Extra psi of tire pressure might introduce extra harshness while driving especially on low profile tires like Forte |
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izputra
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Mar 21 2013, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Mar 21 2013, 11:53 AM) This has proved you are KIA Engineer. Correct, i'm an engineer..mechanical engineer to be exact, but i'm not working for NazaKia or any car companies whatsoever  Anyway..i'm not majoring in automotive engineering, but in applied mechanics..lolz  This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 21 2013, 01:03 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 21 2013, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(superhero_123 @ Mar 21 2013, 12:02 PM) Anyone encounter when you press on the brake or release the brake, you will hear an 'ung ung' sound from the brake side there? Is it problem with brake or other? My car is just 1 month old...thanks in advance. If that sound is there when u press the brake (at the time where the car is going to complete stop) or when the initial release of the brake, it's absolutely normal. Normal sound when the brake pad initially engage & disengage from the brake disk This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 21 2013, 01:06 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 21 2013, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(craxors @ Mar 21 2013, 01:13 PM) but...not happen to new car? From past experience, the sound is there though for a new car. I hope that i refers to the correct/normal brake sounds..else, it might be something else. This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 21 2013, 01:30 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 24 2013, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(laboca @ Mar 22 2013, 11:30 PM) today had heart attack day with my forte. As usual, i use my remote to open up my boot and put my stuff in. then depress the brake then push the start/stop button to start up the engine. First, i heard short "ngek" sound (the usual sound when it unlock the steering lock) then everything just dead. i push the start/stop button again, but no respond. so i tried to long press on start/stop button for 10 sec (or more), no respond either. then i put my smart key into smart key holder, no luck. whole car like no electricity, not even the interior light is on. so i got out from the car, use my remote to open up the boot, no respond. Then i got back inside my car, push my smart key back to smart key holder. suddenly the interior light turn on, i can see some indicator light turn on in instrument panel. so i tried again start up engine, but the brake appeared to be very hard, this time i able to start up the engine. to ensure everything back to normal, i stop the engine. i pull out the smart key from the holder, and try start the engine. this time, the break back to normal and i able to start the engine. but the clock seems reset. anyone encounter such incident before? i know i need to send my car back to SC (less than 2 weeks, and this will be my second visit to SC), but just wanna know what the hack was going on with my car. i hope i able to start my car tmr morning.... a bit trauma liao.... :s QUOTE(epo @ Mar 23 2013, 05:45 PM) Check the battery cable... Ensure everything is tighten... Yupp..what bro epo said is true. Got several cases happen before. It's due to battery cable is not tighten up properly at the battery terminal. When the car is being placed at the showroom or stockyard, they will unplug the battery cable from the battery terminal to conserve the battery power..but somehow they did not plug it back & tight it up properly when the car is being delivered to the customer. Please check the battery cable bro (laboca) & tight it up. No need to send your car to SC. That should solve the problem..unless the battery itself is dead. This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 24 2013, 11:37 AM |
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izputra
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Mar 24 2013, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(yruns1 @ Mar 24 2013, 02:33 PM) have any of u tested what happens if u walk out with your key from your forte car while engine still running... Will the engine stop? Nope..u can drive the car to the other side of the world (or wherever u want) without the smartkey as long as u keep refueling & the engine running continously This post has been edited by izputra: Mar 24 2013, 02:50 PM |
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izputra
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Mar 24 2013, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Mar 24 2013, 02:51 PM) You need to buy. Our HU is windows version. You need to get version X8.5 if not mistaken. I am using this. You may find from internet, but it is illegal to discuss here. It's been discussed before @ previous2 version of this thread..lalalala |
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izputra
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Mar 25 2013, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(laboca @ Mar 25 2013, 09:10 AM) Thanks guys for the advise. You are right, is the cable that loose. Im happy driver again. Btw, im not bro  Opss..sorry sis |
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izputra
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Mar 25 2013, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(bennedict82 @ Mar 25 2013, 11:18 AM) See, Epo and Izputra put money into our pocket again. Thanks a lot! How good this forum!!!  If go to some other bad mechanics, they may tell different story and charge you Rm100-200. Char Kuey Teow special 1 pinggan will do..lolz |
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izputra
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Mar 25 2013, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(kraxyash @ Mar 25 2013, 11:24 AM) You will hear a loud beep sound which will annoying annoyed your passengers (if there is). Lol As far as i know, the warning buzzer will beep for a while when we close the car's door..after that, no beep anymore & just drive it wherever u want without the smartkey |
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