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smartinvestor01
post Jan 13 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 12 2014, 07:18 PM)
Actually dividend higher than 6% is already quite good...hope bn don't disappoint us...
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Yape, anyway, i am projecting a dividend of at least 6.15% (worse to worse scenario)..

I think it is quite low possibility that they will issue the dividend lower than the previous years because of their previous report that the EPF income had increased.

EPF Reports Higher Income


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post Jan 23 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 23 2014, 10:06 AM)
Max,

Whatever ang-pow cum distribution they announce makes no difference to me... the money can see but cannot touch.

Xuzen
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very much agreed..

i never involved kwsp into my net worth calculation as well because the money in there cannot be touched..



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post Jan 23 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jan 22 2014, 10:08 PM)
......as such, everybody should withdraw from EPF and invest in mutual funds......

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better think twice when investing your money...

EPF Holders Lost Money in Unit Trusts

just because many people think that kwsp is not their money, they ended up making more lost when they invested at the wrong or non-performing unit trusts..


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post Jan 24 2014, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jan 23 2014, 05:56 PM)
Agreed. We need to do some "research" first before investing. No matter if it's EPF or own money into UT, commodities or Shares investments nod.gif
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yape, those are common mistakes especially when their research are solely based on the unit trusts consultant..

well, i have a few friends caught up.. just because wanting to know more from the consultant, ended up buying the unit trusts without sufficient research..

always remember that KWSP is still our money.. nod.gif

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post Jan 25 2014, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 25 2014, 12:39 AM)
Can an employee contribute > 11%?
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you can always contribute voluntarily through the maybank or public bank online banking..

sometimes when i have extra, i will contribute extra too...


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post Jan 25 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 25 2014, 11:39 AM)
If keen to contribute xtra 2% every mth, need to notify employer to make arrangement?
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yes. but some HR would not want to take the hassle because it requires the directors signature and some forms for it to be implemented..

Certain HR wants the contribution to be standardized so that it is easy to monitor...
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post Jan 29 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 25 2014, 11:41 AM)
U refer to self employed or wage earner?
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i am a wage earner.. sometimes when i see my epf got figure which is ''alang-alang'' one, for instance another RM100 to RM40K, then i will bank-in into my epf via Public Bank or Maybank just to round out the total amount in my epf..

anyone can bank-in anytime without going through the employer..
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 29 2014, 09:08 AM)
U bank in over d counter or online at Public/Mbb?
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I bank-in online through my Public bank online and Mbb online..

Very convenience..

It takes about 3 working days for the bank to transfer your money into KWSP.. So you can start to check on your kwsp the third or forth working day to see whether the money has been successfully bank in into your kwsp account..

but be very careful when you key in your membership number.. better to ensure that all the details are accurately keyed-in as you might not want the fund to be transfer to the wrong membership account..

Although their side might cross check your membership no with your ic, there are still rooms for mistakes to happen if the details are inaccurate..

Cheers.. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 29 2014, 02:25 PM)
yape, my expectation is still high for the dividends for kwsp dividend which would be announced sometime maybe in february.. nod.gif


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post Feb 5 2015, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 5 2015, 03:03 PM)
based on the news, the dividends will be declared sometime in next week..

i am anxiously awaiting for the dividend news..
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post Sep 9 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Penguin @ Sep 7 2015, 11:37 PM)
Putting aside the current poor economical situation in M'sia, I wonder, will it be a wise choice to contribute more money (other than deduction from salary) into EPF account for the purpose of "force saving" and also to earn the interest...?
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The funds in KWSP are guaranteed by the government..

The books on Akta KWSP can be bought at book stores..

On the other hand, if you are investing in unit trust, you dont have the same privilege..
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post Oct 21 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 21 2015, 09:31 AM)
If implemented an EPF account holder need to choose to stay in conventional account or change to the new KWSP-i. These 2 accounts would have 2 diff dividend rate of at least 2.5%. Correct?

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...ccount-says-epf
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I believe that the EPF account holders have the option to diversify their holdings.. which means that we could also opt to diversify our monthly contribution to both conventional account and KWSP-I account..

As i know, some investors might take the opportunity to diversify..

Just sharing my view..


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post Apr 14 2016, 02:10 PM

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I was thinking by the time the shariah compliance KWSP is ready, can we opt to maintain our current conventional KWSP and add in additional account for the shariah compliance account that time..

If it can be done, the shariah compliance fund would be my voluntary contribution while the convention one would be employment contribution.


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post Apr 15 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 14 2016, 02:31 PM)
I don't think can have 2 acc leh, but good if really have it rclxms.gif
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Yes, as EPF is actually under government, i could sense that the shariah compliance might performed better than the conventional EPF..

This is only my point of view based on the performance of ASB as Bumi fund in comparison to the other funds like ASM, ASW2020, and AS1M..

But if they mentioned that they need to take away the capital guaranteed term, i will just forget about the conversion of my current conventional account..

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post Apr 20 2016, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 20 2016, 10:01 AM)
I can understand the misconception, but ASB is [b]NOT a shariah compliant fund[/B], it owns 20% of Maybank shares

It gives higher dividends than other fixed price ASx funds, but it has nothing to do with it being shariah compliant. Besides, ASB is meant for bumiputras, not muslims. There's also a slight difference there

Just needed to clarify that for the benefit of all readers out there
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Oh yea, thanks for clearing the air..

I always got confused on that.. blush.gif
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 13 2019, 01:14 AM)
while waiting for his response,.....
this forumer (Tham) exactly last year, provided a lot of good reasons.
try read this lyn thread for info.

EPF SELF-CONTRIBUTION
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4524749/all

anyway his many good reasons may not be agreeable to some others

most importantly is what is yours? be it pros or cons....
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Yeah.. basically saving your funds into EPF is guaranteed by the government with a minimum dividend payment of 2.5% per annum for the conventional EPF as stipulated in the KWSP Act.

The drawdown is that withdrawal of the savings would need to wait till at least 50 years old to withdraw Account 2.. For the full withdrawal, you need to wait till the age of 55 years old.

But withdrawal for the other purposes could be applied such as Account 2 withdrawal for downpayment, etc, as shown in their website.
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post Feb 15 2019, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Feb 13 2019, 04:44 PM)
Well, heard some did rush to withdraw because there are often rumors EPF going bankrupt
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Its not going to bankrupt based on the KWSP Act covenant..

For me, its used only when required.. Not withdrawing due to those kind of rumors..
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post Jan 14 2020, 04:19 PM

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This year, i believe the dividend would be roughly ranging between 5.5% to 5.8%..

I have the feeling that no matter what is the result would be, it might outperformed ASM.. lol..
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 27 2022, 11:27 PM)
My hometown Kuching.
I only go for subsale, landed individual title, as Kuching landed properties appreciating healthily over the past 2-3 years. Looking to bid for an auction unit in town area, but would need to withdraw from EPF to do so.
Still contemplating whether should I just leave EPF savings alone, or use it to buy investment property, which can generate 4-5% rental income + capital appreciation.
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Hi.. I am from Kuching too.. In Kuching, landed properties still the best bet and safer option as compared to strata properties which are now oversupplied.

I would still use property to leverage than depending on EPF alone.. still, have to be very caution in the property market here.. Have to do your own due diligence..
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post Jan 31 2022, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Jan 28 2022, 04:05 PM)
Are you sure you can generate 4-5% rental income? Have you taken into those hidden cost of owning a house; ie, maintenance, assessment etc.........
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Yes, it is possible.. I am managing 4 properties, all of it gets minimum 4% per annum and above for the rental income, which excludes the capital appreciation..

Just that 80% of the people make loss in this investment due to many reasons due to lack of studies, and due diligence.

I came across quite some investors buy because they love the property, not because of the rental yield or possible capital appreciation but believe it would be better off in the future which is a big mistake..

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