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kochin
post Dec 18 2024, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Dec 18 2024, 10:17 AM)
nope. people who already have 1 mil in their epf would not do that. You don't have 1 mil that's why you don't think like a person with 1 mil.

the reason why a person can accumulate 1 mil in their epf because they trust the system and they like the dividends. If they do not trust the system, then long ago they would have diverted their epf monies to other investment vehicles through i-invest.

people with 1 mil also do not desperately need spare cash till they need to withdraw pennies from the excess. If they really do need money then they can always withdraw from account 3, which is 10% of 1 mil i.e. 100k, still a sizeable amount.

in short, there will be absolutely no scenario that people will want to withdraw the excess, epf can raise the limit to 2 mil and these epf millionaires will still happily contribute more into it  smile.gif
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that's quite well said.
once one reaches sizeable amount of say RM1mil, the snowballing grows much faster.
if one is still an active contributor, chances are the epf amount will grow at 6 digits annually based on own contribution + dividends received. if the person does voluntary contribution, the snowballing grows even faster.

i think some members even grows their epf by 7 digits every 2-3 years or less.


kochin
post Dec 18 2024, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 18 2024, 11:31 AM)
Just some numbers for fun and for considerations when you think of age 65 then only to starts to "enjoy" your hard earned money pot in kwsp n elsewhere.

Approximately 2.5 millions people out of 34 millions = less than 10% chance of making it. (Abt 8%)
Ha ha ha...
Ooopss, I will be 63 next year, ...coming soon liao

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2023/11/14/...ageing-society/

https://open.dosm.gov.my/dashboard/population
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if strictly plucking from statistics, average life span for malaysians are 75.2 years old (both sexes).
https://open.dosm.gov.my/dashboard/life-expectancy

hence if doing strict averaging, balance in epf at age 65, only have 10.2 years to spend it all (of course some longer some shorter).
at EPF's recommendation of enhance lifestyle of RM1.3mil over 10.2 years is an impressive RM10,656 / month. Not factoring dividends and inflation.


kochin
post Mar 3 2025, 04:04 PM

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does dividend from epf count under the new tax of 2% for divvy above RM100k?
kochin
post Mar 3 2025, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 3 2025, 04:50 PM)
So far Nope...

EPF, ASM, FD, UT, TH all no tax slapped
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so it's only applicable for dividend from stocks and dividends that directors received from businesses?
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post Oct 9 2025, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 9 2025, 12:59 PM)
Both perspectives and advices have their merits. It really comes down to each individual's situation, especially age and available alternatives.

For those of us still some distance away from 50, it’s probably wiser to lean toward the more flexible approach. EPF's rules have shown that they can shift, and when the goalposts move, so should we.

Personally, it doesn’t make much sense to leave say an extra 1m parked in EPF for like the next 15 years before 55, fully exposed to policy tweaks, all for a 6% pa. There are plenty of other investments that can match or exceed that, with way better control and liquidity.

For those nearer to 55 (or already past 60), the story is different. At that stage, the compounding has done its job and you have earned the compounded fruits of your effort. Now it’s more about enjoying them and managing the cashflow wisely.
But like all advices, its easier said... if I were around 60, I would still relook into my cashflow plans.. goalposts had been shifted, again and again.
(future members... best advice is just live with it... too bad...  rclxub.gif )
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i am a noob when it comes to wise investment.
please suggest what are the investments that can match or exceed 6% with better control and liquidity and reasonably safe.

thank you in advance.

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