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post Apr 16 2024, 09:51 AM

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The rollout of Account 3 by the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) may shift the fund's investment portfolio to highly liquid assets to allow for withdrawals.

This, in turn, would affect the fund's investment returns given that highly liquid assets often yield low returns.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/04/...stment-strategy

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post Apr 16 2024, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 16 2024, 11:33 AM)
Based on NST "insider information"...

Everyone get account 3 as default....

BUT you can transfer out the $$$ to account 1 or 2 (your choice)....

Account 3 start in May with zero balance
Contribution starting May 2024 is split into 3.... No choice. Default split of 75% 15% 10% respectively
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All types of contribution including self contribution?
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post Apr 17 2024, 05:04 PM

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No account3 for those aged >55?
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post Apr 21 2024, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Apr 21 2024, 06:15 AM)
Those people who has been making noise to withdraw are not smart...they are just kaki mod motor and gelang emas.  Ends up majority will spend it on stuff they don't need, not investing it to get better returns.
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If they had invested in gold and keep until now they r making a double digits gain.
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post Apr 25 2024, 09:36 AM

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post Apr 25 2024, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 25 2024, 09:38 AM)
NOW i am confused.  laugh.gif
poweredbydiscuz says no.
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Let me think 1st. cos i have never withdraw.

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post Apr 25 2024, 09:47 AM

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If one has 5M on 1-1-24, withdraw 1M 3 months later on 1-4-24, let say 6% div for 2024. How to calculate the total dividend received in 2025?

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post Apr 25 2024, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 25 2024, 11:05 AM)
Short answer : No.

Long answer: No also. EPF is paying dividend like FD interest, but paid once a year at end-of-tenure. Yes, is calculated monthly interest, but paid once a year. Any withdrawal can presume similiar like penalty for early FD termination (although is not it).

Your number is right for full year divide 12 months.

So, I plug into my excel sheet to start with 5M, withdraw 22,916.66 every month on 1st and last day of month (2 simulations), but the number doesn't differ far. (using 365 days, not leap year, lazy modify too many variables, just for simulation differ by cents only)
Year end balance: 4,992,993.55
Dividend receive: 267,993.4667
Which divide by 12 = 22,332.7889 average monthly dividend, lower than full RM22,916.66 dividend if no withdraw.

Reason is mainly due to EPF formula for deposit/withdrawal, there are some days not included into that month calculation.

The number to maintain 5M balance based on 5.5% is to withdraw roughly RM22,347.295 every month, instead of RM22,916.66
Or withdraw lump sum about RM261,372.81 in January.

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Can share the excel sheet or screen shot?

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post Apr 25 2024, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 25 2024, 11:56 AM)
hopefully it's stays the same...

because everyone is "forced" to have account 3 after May 11
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Even for those >55yo?
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post Apr 27 2024, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Apr 27 2024, 11:25 AM)
How 280k can be t20? It can’t even generate a 50k dividends annuallyand that’s only m40 income without considering inflation and ringgit depreciation.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 27 2024, 11:36 AM)
T20s are those members with net worth of at least RM 3 million and annual gross pre-tax income of RM300K, ka.
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I think nexona's T20 is referring to the top 20% of epf members, NOT the one govt use for yearly income of rm140k.
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post Apr 27 2024, 01:28 PM

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post Apr 28 2024, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Apr 28 2024, 12:57 PM)
don'tt think that UT fund make mistake...

EPF excluding them from the approved...

one reason could be because of the fund foreign exposure. their performance is way better & higher than EPF.

those who bought previously all give good positive feedback.. it's the best UT fund under EPF previously... and still now...
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Can cash out fr acc3 n buy d UT outside, by d way which UT?
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post Apr 28 2024, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Apr 28 2024, 02:27 PM)
ETF average at 18% + USD

epf how to compete?
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Which ETF is this?
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post Apr 28 2024, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Apr 28 2024, 08:21 PM)
That’s why many earn in sgd usd EUR and come back Malaysia retire. But must learn to invest also la if not also gone case.
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If most rich people do this by parking money in overseas market, it will be trillion. Habis lah MY.
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post Apr 30 2024, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 30 2024, 11:16 AM)
My safety net is my credit card. Shit happens that is charged until I can divest my assets in t+(?) days. I will never put money in savings accounts or FD.
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Without CASA how do u pay your cc bills?

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post May 13 2024, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ May 13 2024, 12:25 PM)
Unker bought a PJ house almost 30 years ago for RM40k. Already 30x...Young fella running the numbers will never understand inflation like old fella
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QUOTE(boyboycute @ May 13 2024, 08:44 PM)
It was 50 years ago
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So unker can't remember bought house in 1970s or 1990s?
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post May 15 2024, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(leanman @ May 15 2024, 01:47 PM)
with that RM4166 monthly, it should be sufficient for wife and husband, (also assuming no more financial commitment) say kids already grown up and don't need your support.
You saying you don't know whether your wife has EPF or not? biggrin.gif
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I read it that he is single, no?
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post Jun 7 2024, 07:01 PM

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Epf top external fund manager:

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...l-fund-manager/
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post Jun 7 2024, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jun 7 2024, 07:30 PM)
so directly buy their funds better?
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I think they only take HNWI like hksgmy n guy3288.

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post Jun 7 2024, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 7 2024, 09:10 PM)
this is the biggest shark in Bursa lo....
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Sorry but what does that mean?

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