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post Apr 17 2022, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 17 2022, 10:45 AM)
They make up of 90+% of civil service n many r in the pension scheme not contributing epf.
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This is a timebomb in the making, I hear some (women) can retire at 45 and get full pension (since they were in the old scheme). Add the golden handshake on top of that. Not sure how it will sustain. At least more new intake are on contract basis now.
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post Apr 17 2022, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 17 2022, 11:42 AM)
EPF how much can you get p.a
Google and balckrock how much can you get p.a?

Nothing to do with conversion rate. Image I get from my telegram group.
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Why would you put it in a single stock like Alphabet and not a index fund tracker ETF like Vanguard S&P500? The concentration risk is higher so you should be compensated with higher returns.

I think many here do these kind of investments outside of EPF. I guess you are saying that you rebalanced 10k from EPF to a single stock. EPF also has a substantial foreign equity stake so you would get some of that exposure there as well.

This post has been edited by TheEquatorian: Apr 17 2022, 11:50 AM
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post Apr 19 2022, 11:50 AM

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https://m.malaysiakini.com/columns/618497

Does anyone have access to this?
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post Apr 29 2022, 12:37 PM

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Non epf but good to keep in mind when looking at dividend

https://www.malaymail.com/amp/news/malaysia...-confli/2056105
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post May 16 2022, 12:42 PM

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https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...al-transparency

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post May 26 2022, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(snowcrash @ May 26 2022, 12:41 PM)
Damn. Makes no sense though that suddenly every Global equity fund gets kicked out. The only overseas exposed funds at the moment seem to be like Asia ex Japan and some China funds.

Sigh. Time to look for some new funds then.
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Could it be push funds into the Malaysian economy? Did all the global funds disappear?
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post May 31 2022, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 31 2022, 12:17 AM)
some interesting statistics....

The State of the Nation: When a RM4,900 monthly wage puts you among EPF’s T20 members
https://www.msn.com/en-my/money/topstories/...d389a9bc13fdd88

"If the 21-year-old starts at RM1,500 a month and gets a 3% increment every year, he or she should have a monthly salary of RM3,000 by age 45.

Even if a 45-year-old empties his or her savings today, it is possible to get to RM240,000 by age 63 if his or her monthly salary is at least RM3,000 a month — provided that no withdrawals are made and the EPF continues to pay at least a 5% dividend a year.
This is given that it would take someone with a monthly salary of RM3,000 about 18 years to reach RM240,000, and 23 years to reach RM360,000 — good news for those below the age of 40."

hmm.gif just aiming at the end result value of RM240k set now.... rclxms.gif
sweat.gif  cry.gif should it be better to have a thought about the purchasing power of that 240k at 20 yrs later??
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Where is the country heading - better buy some gold in case the currency goes down the drain 😅

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post Oct 7 2022, 03:56 PM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/639289

The 37% must be higher now, good thing.
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post Oct 7 2022, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 7 2022, 05:43 PM)
Too many people changing to SGD and USD. Help prevent MYR outflow laugh.gif
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They want us to support RM so that 2 years later Cindy Yeap can write another tiered dividend article.

Anyway, beats all other options in this market.
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post Oct 7 2022, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 7 2022, 11:17 PM)
say I give you 100k...but cannot withdraw for 30 yrs... what will you choose... epf or fd?... wink.gif
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Not many 25 year old in Malaysia have 100k as yearly deposit savings. I think this is more interesting for 35-55 yr old that likely are close to the withdrawal threshold already.
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post Oct 7 2022, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 7 2022, 11:42 PM)
you are logically correct... but this is a decision analysis exercise... des why I said I give you 100k... you just have to pick a or b... wink.gif
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In that case I would chose epf only because I like to save long term and it is easier to place it there than hunt rates which I need to do now 😅 Caveat is that I don't need the funds ie this is just to balance the risk within my portfolio.
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post Oct 8 2022, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Oct 7 2022, 11:58 PM)
you can still pick fd... still save long term... don't hunt around... wink.gif

you just lose out on $$$...
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With this new self contribution allowance, I will keep a very small amount only in FD - rest into EPF. Country risk is still lower than banks in the country risk 🤓
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post Nov 9 2022, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Nov 9 2022, 05:16 PM)
with the recent interest rates hike and some FD approaching 4%, what is the target dividend for year 2022?
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4.5-5%, markets have taken a beating in 2022. Currency appreciation from overseas holdings will help. No election to drive additional disbursement.
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post Nov 30 2022, 04:54 AM

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Has there been any update to the self contribution amount after the GE?
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post Dec 8 2022, 05:38 AM

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Any idea if a supplementary budget will be tabled? I can't seem to find any information on 100k voluntary contribution to EPF.
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post Dec 8 2022, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 8 2022, 07:38 AM)
Not supplementary. A new one will be tabled early next year. The 100k is void.
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Thanks. I guess deposits need to be rolled, sigh
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post Jan 26 2023, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 25 2023, 12:11 PM)
EPF has a government guarantee, so its not so capitalist actually.
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Can you share where the govt guarantee is stated? I have been looking for it.
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Jan 26 2023, 03:28 AM)
Do you mean the minimum dividend? I was looking for govt guarantee as in capital protected by govt.
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post Feb 23 2023, 02:25 PM

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https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...thdrawals/55319

Politicians being politicians, introduce financial literacy in school instead
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post Feb 24 2023, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Feb 24 2023, 05:28 PM)
No increase in Voluntary Contribution ...
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Nothing on this?

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