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post Feb 8 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 8 2015, 07:26 PM)
I assume 7 include 2 decimal
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Without whistling.gif
Just joking, yup, with . in between.
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post Feb 8 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 8 2015, 08:57 PM)
RM675,000 is only a 6 figure dividend. For this you must have RM10M in EPF.
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Hahaha, still long way more, but if I don't simply take money out, this can be done.
Keyword here is don't simply use your EPF money unless BR > 10%.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 8 2015, 09:39 PM)
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with a dot in the middle, so not that much drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Feb 8 2015, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 8 2015, 09:52 PM)
BR?
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Base rate, now is bank them self to decide shocking.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 9 2015, 09:44 AM)
EPF collapse? I bet Jibby and Rosie won't be able to see tomorrow's sunrise if that happens whistling.gif
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When EPF collapse, all the fund or any sure lose money schemes opened by cronies will die first.
By increasing dividend to 6.75, government are trying to make EPF more attractive than other funds in the market. They need money to roll. Rather than give cronies to continue make money, is better EPF take people's money first.
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post Feb 9 2015, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(ahbenchai @ Feb 9 2015, 06:00 PM)
is it advisable to switch my current FD saving (3.45%) to EPF instead? I mean im getting nearly double the interest rate -.-
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Yes and no.
Yes if you don't want to use the money.
No if you need to use the money.
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post Feb 22 2015, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 21 2015, 08:05 PM)
Stakes rise for EPF to maintain returns

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When global fund managers are hard pressed to give decent returns to their clients, declaring a return of 6.75% on an investment size of RM636.5bil in an environment where yields on bonds are low and the equities market is volatile is not easy.

The fund managed to navigate through the uncertainties to register a gross income of RM39.08bil for the financial year ended Dec 31, 2014. A major boost for the EPF is that its investments overseas paid off – contributing about 33% of its income.

For the EPF, while it would be good if the fund continues with its performance, contributors should also not expect the returns to keep increasing every year.

Investing overseas can help overcome some of the limitations that the fund faces if it were to focus more on the domestic market. But it comes with risks.
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Well, those cronies trust fund are not that cheating money whistling.gif
So need to come out such misleading statement to gain people's trust on this doh.gif
But again, I still prefer I go vacation with business class return tickets rather than let the fund agents to enjoy my money then telling me that the fund are not making money tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 22 2015, 09:11 PM)
I prefer first class
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The problem is, not all flight companies are giving first class whistling.gif
Now are using Qatar Airways business class when I'm travelling, the wine they serve in the plane or their golden lounge are very good already. Tested rm1/ml port wine and I drunk because of it rclxub.gif
They even have a first class lounge and offering higher grade of wine brows.gif
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post Apr 11 2015, 09:34 AM

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Seeking public consultations, why not just say going to take unit trust, other fund agents and insurance agents to see how to press dry people's money?

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post Apr 11 2015, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 11 2015, 10:04 AM)
saying that is more "Pleasing" to the contributors ears..... laugh.gif
hmm.gif Later they can says....85% of the public opinions "consulted" says that it is a GOOD moves to raise to 60 yrs.
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Sorry, when reach 55, we shall have the right to withdraw part or full.
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 11 2015, 11:44 AM)
isn't that is the current withdrawal policy?
now is better right...at 50 can withdraw part of it...
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all the time is 50 can withdraw 1/3.
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post Apr 23 2015, 04:06 PM

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Guess EPF shall come out with better idea to ensure the lower income group are more secure on their older age rather than letting those rich using their money to get richer by dumping money on PRS sort of sure lose money funds.
Something like first rm100k getting 8-9% of dividend, second rm100k gets 4-5% and third rm100k onward gets 3%.
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post Apr 26 2015, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 25 2015, 10:46 AM)
If only EPF still able to payout your money.

Right now the biggest worry is other sinking entities in goven might be looking towards EPF for borrowing. If borrow with payback then EPF dividen will continue to go up. But if borrow and finally go bust then EPF will get bad debt. wink.gif
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All financial institution in the earth does not have the true cash as they stated in their account.
They are using human's money to roll and at the same time make them rich first.
As long as not all human going to take it out once at the same time, nothing will happen.
So, don't speculate and follow the rumors blindly.
MBF is the best example.
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post Apr 26 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 26 2015, 10:03 AM)
The law of averages works well under normal circumstances but it does not handle bad or severe circumstances.

It is everyone's guesses now if we are in critical situation now.
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If were to say critical, every since Tun step down after 22 years are in critical state.
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post Apr 26 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 26 2015, 03:35 PM)
rclxms.gif wow,..managed to stay afloat for 22 yrs in critical stage.
something there to support it.....
Bravo PM and BNM?  notworthy.gif
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Well, we are the top in Aisa now for paying > rm0.90 for every rm1 that we make whistling.gif
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post Apr 27 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Apr 27 2015, 08:59 AM)
The point is less to do with every Tun step down or what.

The point is about the magnitude of the money. The magnitude of the money involved is by far the biggest in Malaysian history.

Even if it's not as bad as causing EPF not able to payout when you wanted the withdrawal, it might bring down EPF to a state that you can't enjoy the same amount of dividend which one used to getting.
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If a country's leader has nothing to do, it is completely wrong.
During the crisis, Tun are trying to borrow money to bail out, enter pocket money while the late LKY still able to advance to a first world country.

QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 27 2015, 09:08 AM)
rclxms.gif under 22 years of critical stage with the condition you mentioned above,...many "wealth" had been created too, PATI is still coming in more and more, house prices is forever up,... inflation had continued to be up.
good eh?  biggrin.gif  more "good" years to come?  sweat.gif
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You are right, the rich gets richer, the poor goes bankrupt whistling.gif
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post May 6 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 6 2015, 03:19 PM)
Not EPF's problem per se. It's because the people has no confidence with the goven's capability to manage the fund.
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Even if the government knows how to use the money, nobody will agree to increase the age also whistling.gif
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post May 6 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 6 2015, 03:53 PM)
We have to see which is the cause which is the effect. Nobody wants to increase the age is the effect, not the cause.
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Most people need the money to pay the debts.
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post May 6 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 6 2015, 05:09 PM)
The poll has a few options. If not mistaken one of the option is to make the age 55 or 60 optional, ie people can decide for themselves, which age to withdraw.

But all the options were rejected flat.

For me, that's the clear indication that lack of confidence is the main reason.
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Yup, that's the main, the other are like I said, need to pay off debts.
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post May 6 2015, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 6 2015, 06:34 PM)
my read is after ge14, they will force it - "we have listened long enough but the time has come, it is good for you".
i read the same.

if... if there r no zmbds, no billions wasted in gomen depts year in year out, crooks put behind bars, strong rm... even with same returns, i'll be the first one to leave my money until 60! laugh.gif

i do not hv details but in contrast, i suspect most people in sg will want to keep in cpf after 55 - 3% p.a. is not much but with strong currency, no songlap as we know it here, i can understand...
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Every politician in this world wants power and money.
Is Singapore really clean? I doubt so.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 7 2015, 12:25 PM)
ALL relative.

SG is most probably CLEAN-ER
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