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post Oct 14 2024, 08:25 AM

 
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Please don't spread hearsay la guys. There's already enough misinformation about EPF.
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post Oct 14 2024, 02:24 PM

 
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Oct 14 2024, 01:41 PM)
Which part hearsay. I said from first hand experience.
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Then obviously I'm not referring to you. Take a chill pill.
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post Oct 17 2024, 07:59 AM

 
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 16 2024, 10:06 PM)
Is it possible to take out EPF Account 2 for paying 90% of the house purchase price ?
How long is the process ?
What documents do we need ?
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Yes. About a week.

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https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/house-withdrawal/buy-house


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post Oct 17 2024, 08:16 AM

 
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 17 2024, 08:09 AM)
it mention this part
"Bukti bayaran tidak kurang 20% daripada harga rumah"

Does this mean i need to fork out 20% for the house and 80% from EPF account 2 can be withdrawn to finance the house purchase (no financing option) ?
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I think it means you pay 20% first, and then you can withdraw 100%+10% of purchase cost or entire saving from Acc 2 (whichever lower). But please confirm with EPF about this first.
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post Oct 17 2024, 09:23 AM

 
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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 17 2024, 09:22 AM)
tell your lawyer you want to withdraw EPF acc2 and they'll CTC all the necessary documents.

For proving the "20% bukti bayaran", i didnt encounter this at all, in fact i just bring my Bank letter offer only.

actually many ppl misunderstood only can withdraw the SPA price 10%, in fact actually is "the amount you've paid for downpayment + additional 10% of the purchase cost"

Example RM 500k property, you paid 10% down RM 50k, loan RM 450k.

so you can take out actually RM 50k (the downpayment u paid) + RM 50k (Additional 10% of purchase cost) = RM 100k, or the whole acc2 if doesnt reached RM 100k.
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Did you take loan? His question was self-financing without loan.

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post Oct 17 2024, 09:28 AM

 
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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 17 2024, 09:26 AM)
Yes.

My situation is exactly the same as i illustrated. only the figures was different abit.

Fun fact, sometimes your MRTA & Legal fee will funded together in your loan right? EPF doesnt count those, they'll still take the nett 10% that you fork out for your withdrawal.

Example RM 500k property paid 10% loan RM 450k + MRTA & Legal fee became RM 480k loan, EPF still allow you to withdrawal RM 50k + RM 50k = RM 100k, despite your loan was RM 480k.
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If got take loan, I think most people know about it.

His question was about the 20% payment receipt requirement which is specifically for self-financing option, not loan.
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post Oct 29 2024, 12:22 PM

 
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QUOTE(drmundo @ Oct 29 2024, 12:14 PM)
How much do you think is sufficient to have in EPF savings by the age of 60, assuming you own a house with no remaining loan and have an economy car
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No one knows what's your lifestyle.
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post Nov 1 2024, 10:51 AM

 
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Don't discuss here la. Cool story like this belongs to kopitam and there's a thread about this already.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5488221
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post Nov 15 2024, 02:05 PM

 
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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 15 2024, 02:01 PM)
I think it means something else

RM600k gets dividend at 5%, divide by 12 months = RM2500 monthly
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Where did it say 5% dividend?
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post Nov 21 2024, 10:06 AM

 
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 21 2024, 09:02 AM)
Seriously wonder when EPF can have options in i-akaun to transfer account 3 $$$ into account 1 & 2..

Current one is kinda hassle...
Need to fill form each time & summit to counter for approval... It's just one off for that amount... Not automatically later month...
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Because it's pointless, for now.
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post Nov 21 2024, 10:28 AM

 
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QUOTE(silence94 @ Nov 21 2024, 10:08 AM)
Hi guys, i have some questions regarding Akaun 2 withdrawal for house purchase. smile.gif
I have bought a house and the SPA signed on 31st May 2022. If following the criteria of withdrawal, the SPA sign date cannot be more than 3 years.

Questions:
1. If i withdraw account 2 for house purchase by let's say January'25, will I still be entitled for the full whole year dividend for 2024 year?
2. Or if I withdraw by December,'24 will the dividend pro-rated? After the dividen announced around Mar-April'25.

Appreciate any sifu advice on this, thanks!
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It will be pro-rated until the day of withdrawal, doesn't matter dec 24 or jan 25.
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post Nov 21 2024, 12:42 PM

 
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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 21 2024, 10:49 AM)
got 2 types, lump sum vs monthly
if lump sum, follow the cut off date for entitlement

if monthly loan paymant, then the amount you withdrawn, will be put under a separate section in EPF, the amount leftover will continue to enjoy dividend
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He's referring to the buy house withdrawal (house price - loan amount + 10%) as he mentioned SPA not more than 3 years.

The monthly installment withdrawal can apply anytime as long as still got outstanding loan.
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post Nov 26 2024, 10:22 AM

 
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Nov 26 2024, 09:56 AM)
hi guys,

can I know the calculation of the dividend for EPF?

If I self contribute at 1st of the month or 26th of the month (need few days buffer before month end) , month end better or how?

thanks
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No difference. Both also earn one day dividend.
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post Nov 26 2024, 11:13 AM

 
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QUOTE(GambitFire @ Nov 26 2024, 10:48 AM)
The kwsp apps having issues? Unable to login almost 2 hours ..Anyone facing similar issue?
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No issue here.
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post Nov 27 2024, 09:38 AM

 
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Under maintenance now.

EDIT: It's up and running now. Just done top up.

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post Nov 27 2024, 12:44 PM

 
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QUOTE(gashout @ Nov 27 2024, 12:11 PM)
100k EOY?  smile.gif
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How I wish..

Just a kucimiao top up nia.
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post Nov 27 2024, 04:39 PM

 
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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Nov 27 2024, 04:23 PM)
Any reason convert already cannot opt out?
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It's the rule. Why need reason?
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post Nov 29 2024, 10:42 AM

 
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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 29 2024, 10:32 AM)
My aunty went to Maybank counter, seems that if want to deposit voluntary into EPF, got 2 types of froms, either Form S or M.

Anyone knows which form to use?
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Is ur aunt employed?

Form S - self-contribution (employed)
Form M - i-saraan/i-suri

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post Dec 3 2024, 02:05 PM

 
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 3 2024, 01:56 PM)
y only 1 day? EPF dividend not pro-rate?
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It's pro-rated except for the month of contribution.
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post Dec 3 2024, 02:15 PM

 
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 3 2024, 02:07 PM)
hmm... can elaborate more? what is mean by except for month of contribution?  hmm.gif
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Eg if you contribute 1k to epf on 10th June 2024, this 1k will earn 6 months (Jul-Dec) + 1 day (for Jun) of dividend for year 2024. No matter which day you contribute in June, it will only get 1 day dividend for June.

You can see the official example by EPF here:

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