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post Mar 28 2006, 06:23 PM, updated 20y ago

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Rules And Regulations. MUST READ. DOWNLOAD HERE


For 2003~05RH go to http://emacf1.com



Hamachi Info:
If u beg hard enough i might tell you


Racers need to download the New Monaco track to race here (included with tutorial)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=269318&st=280#


For RH2004 races
go here to dowload Hamachi, a private LAN server
Network = LYN F1C
password = hello

League rules... (Summarised)

1. Driver championship. Points based on current FIA rules.
2. Race length - 30 %
3. Qualifying - default.
4. Invulnerability - off
5. Fuel usage - x4
6. Race day - every Friday at 9.30 pm - Practice
10.00 pm - Qualifying
10.30 pm - Race
7. Race schedule - 2004 calender

- Use the practice session to get the setup that you want for the race. don't bother going out with low fuel. You want to know what the car feel for the race itself. If u want, you can even carry this into qualifying. I rather do that than b****ing about not enough time to get the race setup before the race start.
- PPL that has not yet got the race setup during the start of the race can go refuel in the pits. It's your own fault that you didn't prepare 1st
- Line blocking to protect lead is permitted.
- cars that are 55% in front of the other are permitted to squeeze the chasing car. DO NOT DO THIS AGGRESIVELY. The chasing car can either yield or take to the grass. This also apply if the chasing car manage to get in front by 55%. He has the right to squeeze. Do this to aggresively and 10 points will be deducted
- Please practice racing with AI first. And try passing them through corners. F1C's engine makes the front lose grip when following another car through corner, thus if an accident occur, I will tend to blame the chasing car for not prepared for this.
- Do not barge your way into a corner. This is not GT. When the lead car brakes late, you have 0.1% chance of braking later than him. It's not worth it
- Spinning and taking out another car will be regarded as racing incident unless a complaint is filed.
- winners have teh right to brag for 5 post. After that 1 point will be deducted for each brag

Penalties
1. cutting corner : add 15 seconds to final race time each corner cut.
2. purposely cause an accident : minus 1 point plus 25s will be added to the next final race time.
3. Weaving (aka Schummi like blocking). This is different from line blocking as you are permitted to move only once to defend. 1st offence Warning. 25s will be added for 2nd offence. DQ for 3rd.
4. Blocking teh race (aka Monaco Schummi). Instant DQ

Tentative league schedule...

1. Australia - 4.8.06
2. Malaysia - 11.8.06
3. Bahrain - 18.8.06
4. San Marino - 25.8.06
5. Spanish - 1.9.06
6. Monaco - 8.9.06
7. European (Nurburgring) - 15.9.06
8. Canadian - 22.9.06
9. US - 29.9.06
10. French - 6.10.06
11. British - 13.10.06
12. German - 20.10.06
13. Hungarian - 27.10.06
14. Belgian - 3.11.06
15. Italian - 10.11.06
16. China - 17.11.06
17. Japanese - 24.11.06
18. Brazillian - 1.12.06



Addon Tracks (Must be used by all)

Monaco
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unable to understand a single word..haha...
all in spanish rite??
btw, which is it that it able to put in '94 til '98 season ??
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post Mar 29 2006, 05:39 PM

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There is a link there for 5 parts of *.ace files. download that. <-- didn't understood the spanish either, just randomly clicked.
and it will put 94-98 + RH season 03-05 if i'm not mistaken.

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post Mar 29 2006, 07:21 PM

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have u tested???
http://files.filefront.com/2006_F1CRC_MOD_...7614;;/fileinfo
check this..i think its the 2006mod.

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post Mar 29 2006, 08:00 PM

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meh, i prefer the RH or CTDP version. usually those so called "mod" that is released this early into the season just use repainted 05 cars.
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tried the mod for 2006...the cars are nice but then all in spanish..i mean those team radio..
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the '05 ... issit RH 05 ?
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post Mar 30 2006, 05:45 PM

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He tried the 2006 mod that he posted about earlier. yeah, it's spanish made. anyway, the RH 05 is the hardest mod ever yet. Low downforce really means that you need have a better setup than before. My lap times compared to 04 is about 3 seconds slower T.T
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 30 2006, 05:45 PM)
He tried the 2006 mod that he posted about earlier. yeah, it's spanish made. anyway, the RH 05 is the hardest mod ever yet. Low downforce really means that you need have a better setup than before. My lap times compared to 04 is about 3 seconds slower T.T
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in that RH05, those setups is really crucial to the race performance..besides that, even a slight spin during race can caused the car go understeer..
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 28 2006, 06:23 PM)
Go here to download the mega update. It will update the game and also add the season of '94-'05 to the game
http://raulongo.iespana.es/F1MEGA.HTM
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looks good....but which one should i d/l?
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post Apr 7 2006, 10:17 PM

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check the third post.
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dunno when will they release updates for this season??cant wait to c mclaren mp4-21
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post Apr 9 2006, 12:21 AM

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Haha, only 3 races in and you already want it?
RH usually release the Mod a month after the F1 season end so that he can use the B-Spec design of the car
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let's race on9...mau kah?
but i only got 2k4 ver sweat.gif
if u're a noob...come race w/ me...i can't even beat AI w/ just 80% aggression n 30% strenght doh.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 28 2006, 06:23 PM)
Go here to download the mega update. It will update the game and also add the season of '94-'05 to the game
http://raulongo.iespana.es/F1MEGA.HTM
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so after install it,the game language will be in English or spanish?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 29 2006, 05:39 PM)
There is a link there for 5 parts of *.ace files. download that. <-- didn't understood the spanish either, just randomly clicked.
and it will put 94-98 + RH season 03-05 if i'm not mistaken.
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download all the file or just one of them?
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post May 2 2006, 10:21 PM

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all the 5 parts, and it's in english.
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wa......that alot,it was a huge update.more than 1G.between,it got 6 parts,not 5.
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 2 2006, 10:54 PM)
wa......that alot,it was a huge update.more than 1G.between,it got 6 parts,not 5.
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more that 1G? shocking.gif
i dl-ed mine 4 less than 200mb sweat.gif what's goin on? rclxub.gif
about 150mb IIRC
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QUOTE(Hiwatari @ May 2 2006, 10:57 PM)
more that 1G? shocking.gif
i dl-ed mine 4 less than 200mb sweat.gif what's goin on? rclxub.gif
about 150mb IIRC
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huh?how come?the first 5 files is about 233,876KB which is about 230MB.the 6th file is about 60MB only.besides,u download which 4 files?mind to show?
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he downlaodded the game, not the update yet kot
my f1c folder is already 7GB ++
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anyway, come and join us aspiring F1 gamer, we usually hold some RH2004 races
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 3 2006, 12:12 AM)
he downlaodded the game, not the update yet kot
my f1c folder is already 7GB ++
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i dont understand u.u mean that 6 files is including F1 Challenge 99-02 inside?between,i got this game already,i just wanna download season before 98,so which parts to download?
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that, you cannot do my fren,a s the pieces are one big file split. as I don't know which folder go where, so better download all. anyway, it updates all the cars and tracks for 1999 - 05, so it's worth the download
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yea,already download all....quite many files to download as well besides that 6 files.still need to download other bug-fixed files.bluring now....
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 3 2006, 01:59 AM)
yea,already download all....quite many files to download as well besides that 6 files.still need to download other bug-fixed files.bluring now....
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might wanna go here n click f1x series
u can choose whatever u wanna dl...ez-er thumbup.gif
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no...dun join him, he's feakin fast...join me instead icon_rolleyes.gif jk jk tongue.gif

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Chigau yo!!
the link i've given for this thread is for the mega update patch ler Hiwatari. it will include F1 from '94 to 05 season for the game. that's kwhy it's so big. but the splitting of the file is not according to season, but by type (car, tracks, etc) so you want to download all to get the season that you want.

Also, if not for the Hungarian guy last night, i might have been slower. i just don't want to lose to him
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crack version can play online ?so both of u using keyboard or joystick to play?
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 3 2006, 01:10 PM)
crack version can play online ?so both of u using keyboard or joystick to play?
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can can...keyboard
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Chigau yo!!
the link i've given for this thread is for the mega update patch ler Hiwatari. it will include F1 from '94 to 05 season for the game. that's kwhy it's so big. but the splitting of the file is not according to season, but by type (car, tracks, etc) so you want to download all to get the season that you want.

Also, if not for the Hungarian guy last night, i might have been slower. i just don't want to lose to him

apa chigau2?hayai...hayai...hayai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what's the diff between mega n upgrade?99-02 kan included liao

but how?i'm dying 2 know...he's using joypad...but u?u keyboard only yet still gd vmad.gif pissed off(or shud i tongue.gif )
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I said 94 ler....
it will include
94
95
96
97
98 (CTDP)
99 (RH Updated car textures)
2000 (Updated)
2001 (Updated)
2002 (Updated)
2003RH
2004RH
2005RH

Plus some missing tracks
Argentina (Buenos Aires)
Australia (Adelaide)
Pasific (Aida, Japan)
European (Jerez)
Portugal (estoril)
Turkey (Istanbul Park CTDP ver.)

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i know but 99-02 included liao in the game rite?
so what's the point dl-ing?better physics engine?

p/s:racing w/ international drivers sucks tongue.gif in melbourne they jz cut corners here n there...WTH doh.gif
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better graphics and updated tracks
also, be sure you're using updated tracks for online racing as the newer ones are faster. The updated Gilles Villeneuve (canada) is shorter by some extent then the original EA version, and because of that, ppl with unupdated games have to go the long way and sees the updated racer cut tracks.
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you guys might want to read this
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=107747
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where to download rh2003 and rh2005 without registering?i click download link from ww.emacf1.com and then pop up a window ask me to download bla bla and subscribe.what the hell~~~
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need help,who know where can download rh2003 and rh2005?i mean alternative site.

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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 3 2006, 09:57 PM)
where to download rh2003 and rh2005 without registering?i click download link from ww.emacf1.com and then pop up a window ask me to download bla bla and subscribe.what the hell~~~
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jz reg the free 1...got oso, on top i think of the pop up win
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i cant register it.it say server error bla bla bla....been pissed off with this stupid download link.......
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 3 2006, 10:26 PM)
i cant register it.it say server error bla bla bla....been pissed off with this stupid download link.......
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server seems 2 b fine
ur streamyx mayb?
or jz in case u salah pilih server...it's fileplanet
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yeah, fileplanet
but i think RH2005 and 2003 is included with teh mega update?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 3 2006, 10:41 PM)
yeah, fileplanet
but i think RH2005 and 2003 is included with teh mega update?
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i think he x larat nak dl file beso2 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 3 2006, 10:41 PM)
yeah, fileplanet
but i think RH2005 and 2003 is included with teh mega update?
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alreaqdy including meh?i read the instruction and they said we need rh2003/04/05 before we install megaupdate,otherwise the game wont run......what the hell...so many confusion with this update.
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 3 2006, 11:00 PM)
alreaqdy including meh?i read the instruction and they said we need rh2003/04/05 before we install megaupdate,otherwise the game wont run......what the hell...so many confusion with this update.
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haha....linkinstreet, jz burn it 4 him la...kesian la...later he botak thinking of way 2 play the game sweat.gif

btw, u got the game yet o not?i mean f1 challenge '99-02
if hv liao, jz dl from fileplanet la...can choose whatever u want thumbup.gif
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i got the game already.the only problem now i cant download any files from fileplanet!!!
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 12:17 AM)
i got the game already.the only problem now i cant download any files from fileplanet!!!
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y not?there's 2 sections or servers list
upper 1 is 4 subscribed users...dl from the lower 1...the free 1
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alright,able to login now.....but only got rh2005,no rh2003.sigh~~~~
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like i said, i thought the megaupdate got the 2003 seasom
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 12:27 AM)
alright,able to login now.....but only got rh2005,no rh2003.sigh~~~~
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u need 2 dl 1 by 1 sweat.gif
notice that evrytime u click the file u wanna dl, pop up win will appear?
that pop up is only 4 the file u clicked sweat.gif
so jz click other file n repeat it wink.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 4 2006, 01:05 AM)
like i said, i thought the megaupdate got the 2003 seasom
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nope,it is nope.i install the mega update already.it only contain season 94-02.for season 03-05,when u select to play it,your game window will automatically close it.cannot play at all.anyway,just able to download all the rh files.besides,all rh 03/04/05 got 2 files to download which is expansion pack and trackpack.both are different and need to download?or just download expansion pack is enough?
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 02:32 AM)
nope,it is nope.i install the mega update already.it only contain season 94-02.for season 03-05,when u select to play it,your game window will automatically close it.cannot play at all.anyway,just able to download all the rh files.besides,all rh 03/04/05 got 2 files to download which is expansion pack and trackpack.both are different and need to download?or just download expansion pack is enough?
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dl both
but only trackpack is necessary
xpansion is jz some update 2 the basic IINM
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alright,thanks for sharing.last time i download both and install both...hehe
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 02:40 AM)
alright,thanks for sharing.last time i download both and install both...hehe
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n...?after install what happen?shud b no prob i think
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yea,no problem,still can play.besides,f1 challenge 99-02 got autopilot driving like f1 2001?i want pc to control the steering for me...hehe.....
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 02:50 AM)
yea,no problem,still can play.besides,f1 challenge 99-02 got autopilot driving like f1 2001?i want pc to control the steering for me...hehe.....
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that 1 dun hv...but 4 what? sweat.gif
u wanna play, hv fun rite smile.gif if want AI 2 control the steering, better play NHRA la...no need 2 steer the car much rclxms.gif still damn fast flex.gif

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well,i like to use autopilot to drive sometimes.more fun for me.too difficult to play by using manual steering....hahah.maybe i am using keyboard to play kua....anyways,what is NHRA?nascar?
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QUOTE(amenlo9 @ May 4 2006, 03:00 AM)
well,i like to use autopilot to drive sometimes.more fun for me.too difficult to play by using manual steering....hahah.maybe i am using keyboard to play kua....anyways,what is NHRA?nascar?
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lol...not much xperience gained then sweat.gif most of us use keyboard...but linkinstreet is using real f1 steering wheel...that's y he's fast laugh.gif jk jk tongue.gif
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there is no shortcut to be fast in this game. unlike arcade racing game, the performance of cars are linear with time. you have to know how your car perform after an amount of time to know how to drive it to the fullest. I habve played this game for 4 years now. and I have spent many times going round and round testing the car, just to get the right feeling of it. did you know that many times i have puked because of the times i concentrated controlling the car on the track? i'm not talking about testing 30 minutes like thatm but 5 straight hours, just so that i know which line is the best. it sure takes a lot out of your mental strength.......

On the expansion pack, i suggest getting it as the game looks better with it. also some physics update and graphic updates are also included.

2003 season = http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/ga...wnload2003.html
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i not really understand ....

now i hv 2004 but i dun hv 2003,05 n 06...so,anyone can provide me the links 2 dl it?thanks....when i hv it,then we can race on9 lo...
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read two post back for 2003, http://emacf1.com for 05 and next year for 06
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i download rh2005 but unable to play it.sigh~~besides,why when i cant accelerate more when i move the steering?when i was accelerating on straight line,move a little bit steering will cause my speed drop......this problem cause me cant accelerating on high speed corner as well...
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wchich season is that? 2005 is the year FIA mandatorised low grip. I really hated the car. Understeer all the way
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all season cannot accelerating when i move my steering.weird.like normally when we driving,we still able to accelerate when we slightly move our steering right.my problem is when i move the steering,speed will drop and gear wont shift.....i cant play season 2005 eventhought i installed the base and trackpack.expansion pack is currently unavailable.....
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key conflict. It's when ur keyboard cannot detect more than 3 keypress at a time. use arrow keys or make sure that ur not using auto brake. on the 2005, what happen? does it crash to desktop?
Try this
Click on the F1C shortcut, and add this line to the target "trace=3000"
for example mine would be
"E:\01 Games\f1\F1 Challenge 99-02.exe" trace=3000

If ur game crash to desktop, you can see why in <ur F1C directory>/LOG/trace.txt
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no crach,season 2005 is just broken graphic .got voice,but no car and mixing with pieces of broken graphic.i think got bugs....

besides,i am using arrow key to control my steering.will disable autobrake later and see how
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can show screenshot of 2005?

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how to capture game screenshot when i am playing game?
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use print screen button and paste in paint
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thanks...but how bout 2006? u hv the links?

by the way,y nowaday EA din release new f1 game?
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06 will be released next year. saba ler.
Sony have the rights for this game up to 2008.
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but then y whe n i play on9 for this game,there r some player r using 2006 lo...izit is trial or beta version?

which sony u mean?
u mean sony playstation?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 4 2006, 12:03 PM)
I habve played this game for 4 years now. and I have spent many times going round and round testing the car, just to get the right feeling of it. did you know that many times i have puked because of the times i concentrated controlling the car on the track? i'm not talking about testing  30 minutes like thatm but 5 straight hours, just so that i know which line is the best.
that xplains it sweat.gif
how old r u neway?spending so much time 4 this...tot u're working liao
dun tell me u work s game reviewer shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 5 2006, 12:35 AM)
06 will be released next year. saba ler.
Sony have the rights for this game up to 2008.
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saba?haha...c his avatar la...he's furious 2 race w/ ya
LINKINSTREET is vmad.gif FAST!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm 22, and yes, it's licenced only for PS2. the 06 that they are using are unoffial mod. they use 05 carshape with 06 colours. so why bother?
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how bout the track n the driver n the car too?

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drivers are 06. Cars, as i said are just repainted 05 cars. same with the tracks. why bother? The RH version is always the best
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Yo guys just downloaded RH 05 version loving it....anyone tried the McLaren 06 car in RH 05, looks cool but still prefer the old McLaren. Happy racing
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I hate the 05 version. still can't figure out the right setup. the rear feels uncomfortable and loose. Will always spin out at Eau Rouge if full throttle. arghh.
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u guys still play the RH 05 meh ?
online or wat ?
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Sometimes online. anyway can mods change the topic to "F1 Challenge"?
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05 is quite difficult 2 control the car...when u wan 2 do a corner,u cannot accelerate it coz the car will not function well...haiz...i still prefer 2004
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Dammit, now i know how to setup the 05 car correctly, and it was really easy to do.
The gear ratio is now shorter than the 04 and because of the lack of rear downforce, the car tend to oversteer, and if not carefull, spinning on kerbs upon touching. Stiffening the front suspension and lessening the front wing + more rear wing should be quite okay for this car.
I found 4 seconds after realising this. man, this is great.

some tips.
fornt wing >= Rear wing. This is for the car to have a decent oversteer during cornering

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how 2 stiffen the suspension?
really dun understand those values...Nm rclxub.gif
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i oso not understand le...

oh ya linkinstreet,u say 06 is same wif 05 n copy from 05 rite?
then 06 got toro rosso n super aguri onot?

i wan 2 try how slow is super aguri...hehe
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Supa Aguri = repainted minardi kot
the car is the same as in 05, no change in handling, speed, etc
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i am facing some bugs on rh2005.some tracks will appear broken graphic....
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linkin, have ur settings saved then post it here so we can dl and try it..hehe

btw, i think u shld post ur lap times for all the circuits for us as benchmark.. rclxms.gif

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yeah, will do that after this. testing my new 05 setups first
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2004
Albert_Park - 1.24
Sepang - 1.30
Sakhir - 1.27
Imola - 1.18
Barcelona 1.13
Monaco 1.13
Nurburgring 1.28
Montreal 1.14
Indianapolis 1.09
Magny-Cours 1.12
Silverstone 1.16
Hockenheim 1.13
Hungaroring 1.06
Spa 1.43
Monza 1.19
Shanghai 1.29
Suzuka 1.29
Interlagos 1.08

2005
Albert_Park 1.26
Sepang 1.31
Sakhir - SNF
Imola 1.19
Barcelona -SNF
Monaco - SNF
Nurburgring - SNF
Montreal - SNF
Indianapolis - SNF
Magny-Cours - SNF
Silverstone - SNF
Hockenheim - SNF
Hungaroring - SNF
Istanbul - SNF
Monza - 1.21
Spa - 1.46
Interlagos - SNF
Suzuka - SNF
Shanghai - SNF

*SNF - unstatisfied with setup. still testing
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u've gotta b kiddin shakehead.gif
i still remember u clocked 1:08 in indiana n 1:16 in imola
guess u're faster when underpressure thumbup.gif
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i took my averange lap times, not my fastest one.
Anyway
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MOnaco 05 - 1.11
Please note that for 05, I don't use the track which come with the mod. Instead, i used the CTDP 05 monaco track, which is the same as the updated Monaco track in real life, with the pits on the inside, not the outside, and shorter track length
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ic...n my fastest in imola is 1:21..
i'm using a ferrari, in 'my' track...n i lose 2 a mclaren cry.gif
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05 McLaren is the fastest in the game, followed by the Renault, BAR, Toyota and Ferrari........
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no lah...i mean 2k4
i yet 2 try 2k5...dl-ed but yet 2 install
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Ah, so just practice, practice and practice my n00b padawan. in time, you will be able to control the car like you want
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hmm...even if i can control it...still need 2 master the way 2 tweak the setting
usually my fastest lap is by using the default RH2k4 setup sweat.gif
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hahaha, there is nothing wrong about that.
Read this, this might be interesting for you

QUOTE(forthRight)
First of all I should point out that this guide will not be quite as useful to the fastest drivers on the sim racing scene (Max Dell'Orco, Dom Duhan, Dominik Binz, Greger Huttu, Dave Nicol, Adam Dodd, Markus Kononen, Brad McGiveron etc). They are all extremely talented and they each know exactly how to set up the game (and car) to suit their own driving styles, I can't see anything in this guide been of great use to them as they are already driving on the limit of human possibility.


Chapters;

1. Opening Comments.
2. Setting Up The Game.
3. Player (PLR) File Editing.
4. Setting Up Your Steering Wheel.
5. Driving Aids.
6. Traction Control.
7. Choosing A Good Car.
8. Car Setup.
9. Driving Techniques.
--9.1. Braking.
--9.2. Downshifting.
--9.3. Turn-In
--9.4. Hitting The Apex.
--9.5. Corner Exit.
--9.6. Throttle Control - Finding The Limit.
--9.7. Side Note - The 'Differential Lock'.
--9.8. Gear Selection.
--9.9. A Note From The Experts.
10. Practice.
11. Driving Online.
12. Replays And Telemetry.
13. Talent.
14. Closing Comments.
15. Useful Links.


1. Opening Comments.

When I drive online against people who aren't quite as quick (or people who are really struggling) they often ask how certain lap times are possible. Normally I simply respond by saying "I practice a lot, and I work on my setups"... which is true but also a bit of a cheap way to end the conversation - I don't have to go into detail about anything and at the same time the advice of "practice" is quite a good piece of advice to give.
This sometimes leads to people asking for my setup and (depending on the current FSR league race) I'm normally happy to provide it. It's not always a useful quick fix though - yes there are times where I've given someone a setup and they have suddenly driven a lot faster but there are other times where it hasn't helped at all.

When someone is driving 1.28's at the new Hockenheim circuit (with a steering wheel) and giving them a setup capable of low 1.15's doesn't help them go any faster it's obvious there is another reason for the lack of speed. When I talk to people in this situation I often find that they haven't got a clue about setting up the game, how to make sure their steering wheel is set up correctly or on some occasions even use basic driving lines. That's why I decided to write this guide.

I am not the fastest driver in the world - I can name many drivers who are capable of driving faster than I ever have, but I still believe I drive at a very competitive level. I will offer all the advice I can and give all the information I have learnt; If this guide helps only one person to improve their lap times I will be happy.


2. Setting Up The Game.

For F1 simulations you really need a steering wheel and although not everyone has one I personally have used steering wheels since the release of 'Monaco Grand Prix: Racing Simulation 2' - as a result everything in this guide will be written assuming a steering wheel is the controller as that is my own experience.

I drive without any driving aids... this is something I have always done and whenever I buy a new racing sim the first thing I do is turn off any available driving aids. So I'm writing the guide from this point of view, I don't use Traction Control or Automatic Gears or anything else. I know a lot of people use those two aids specifically (as it matches to real F1 today) - hopefully they will still find some useful information.

One of the things I love about the EA F1 games is that they have plenty of options to adjust in the menus and lots of scope for customising the game to suit many different people. I will go through some of the more important options now;

It is best to leave 'Tyre Wear' and 'Mechanical Failures' turned on as these are often used online and in Hotlap competitions. You can go a bit quicker if they are turned off but I think most people prefer realism and in real life the tyres wear out and the engines blow up (if pushed too hard).

'Fuel Usage' is another setting where it is better to have it turned on for two reasons; Obviously most online sessions have fuel usage turned on (as again it is realistic) but another reason is simply to get used to driving the car with fuel onboard. If you always drive with fuel usage turned off and then you suddenly have to drive a 15 lap race with fuel onboard it can be a huge shock - of course you would expect the lap times to be slower but the extra weight can really make you struggle as suddenly the car doesn't slow down in the same distances and it doesn't respond in turns the way it normally would.
Personally I often turn fuel usage off if I am testing a qualifying setup because it allows me to do lap after lap without having to stop for fuel (and when you drive a qualifying lap online you will only have 2 or 3 laps of fuel anyway), but I still do plenty of testing with fuel onboard (online and offline). It is definitely worth having experience of the car with a heavy fuel load and also to learn to adjust your setups so they last a race distance.

Cockpit view or TV-Camera style onboard view..? I use the standard cockpit view myself and most of the fastest drivers seem to use the same (though there are some exceptions). For me it's mainly down to realism (I want to feel as though I'm in the car), but it's also down to turn-in accuracy - although you can see more of the track and upcoming turns with the TV-Cam view I actually find the standard cockpit view much more accurate when it comes to choosing a turn-in point. So I will always use the cockpit view but I don't see anything wrong with people using the TV-Cam view in leagues etc - some people think the TV-Cam view gives an advantage as it is higher up but I've tested both and I didn't notice much difference in the lap times (I certainly wasn't faster with the TV-Cam view).

One thing this game did make me realise is the number of people using 'kmh' for measuring their top speed. When I drive online and I mention a speed in 'mph' I nearly always get the response of "what's that in kmh?". I live in the UK and I often forget that a lot of other countries use 'kmh' to measure speed - obviously you should use whatever is the standard in your country but it's best to know how to convert from one to another if you end up discussing top speeds online;

To convert from 'mph' to 'kmh' multiply the speed by 1.6093
To convert from 'kmh' to 'mph' divide the speed by 1.6093

Another tip when setting up the game is to lower the Engine volume. By default they are set quite high but I find that lowering the Engine volume to 40% and keeping the Sound Effects at around 95% allows me to hear what the tyres are doing much more easily - I know when I am locking up, spinning the wheels or screeching the tyres. It might not be as realistic to actually hear these sounds so well but at the same time you don't have the benefit of being in a real F1 car and feeling the behaviour of the car and the tyres on the circuit.


3. Player (PLR) File Editing.

There are many well known options you can change simply by using notepad to edit the *.PLR file (C:\F1_Challenge\Save\YourName\YourName.PLR). This is a list of the most popular option changes (the option numbers are already edited in this list so if you want the effect described here simply change the number in your *.PLR file to the same number from this list);

Half Rate="0" - Enables a super-high physics rate which uses more CPU power to calculate extra vehicle physics parameters and gives a more realistic feel to the car. This will normally make your lap times slightly slower as the car is more difficult to drive quickly over the curbs.

No AI Control="1" - The computer will never take control of your car (so you can still drive when the race has finished).

AutoBlip="0" - Removes the brake assistance icon from your telemetry laps (this is a bug in the game). Obviously this is assuming you don't actually use brake assistance.

Tire Sampling="1" - Should make the car's reaction slightly more realistic over sharp curbs.

Other Volume Ration="0.70000" - Lowers the volume of the other vehicle engines so they don't totally drown out your own (this was recommended by one of the game developers).

LCD Display Modes="7" - Allows you to see all pages on the in-car steering wheel display in the cockpit view (Lap Time, Pit Stop/Fuel, Tyre Temp, Driving Aids, Engine and Brake Temp).

Locked Pit Cam="0" - Allows you can stay in the cockpit view during pitstops.

Crash Recovery="0" - The game will not automatically leave your car upright after a crash (you can end up stuck upside down for good). It is more realistic.


4. Setting Up Your Steering Wheel.

This is one of the most important steps when you are setting up a racing sim and in the EA F1 games it is more important than ever - these settings can easily effect the lap times you are capable of driving.

There are some general settings which seem to suit most steering wheels but these are the three steering wheels I have used with F1 2002 and F1 Challenge;

Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback
Logitech Momo Force
Thrustmaster Ferrari F1 Replica;
*Review link posted for the Thrustmaster F1 steering wheel as not many people seem to know about it;
http://www.gamefaction.com/hardware/...ckracingwheel/

I must be honest and say I never noticed much difference between the three of them in terms of lap times but the Momo has slightly more degrees of travel until you reach full lock (it is also probably the most comfortable to use).


First of all you should setup your steering wheel and pedals correctly using Windows 'Game Controllers' - each steering wheel has it's own unique page here and some have more options than others; some wheels also come with their own software (separate from Game Controllers) which you can use to adjust the axis properties.
It's best to leave most of the axis, steering and sensitivity settings in this Windows based software at the default settings, however with certain wheels (Microsoft) you might want to increase the sensitivity of the actual steering wheel axis slightly as this can improve turn-in.
Other than that the main thing you should do in Windows is make sure your pedals are setup to use 'split' (or 'separate') axis - this means each pedal will be assigned it's own separate axis and they will work independantly (meaning you can use both pedals at the same time for more advanced driving techniques). If you don't do this (and instead leave the pedals using a single 'Combined' axis) they will override each other and you will only be able to use one pedal at a time.
For the Microsoft and Logitech wheels this 'split'/'separate' axis setting is normally found in the Windows 'Game Controllers' page but for the Thrustmaster Ferrari F1 wheel this setting can only be changed by using the profiler software that comes with the steering wheel (installed from the CD).

Now I will go through the in-game steering wheel settings from the F1 Challenge Controllers Options pages;

The Calibration page is quite simple - you use it to assign your pedals, steering wheel, clutch button and any keyboard commands you might want. One thing you should do here is remember to calibrate your pedals two or three times in a row (click on accerator, press the pedal, click on brake, press the pedal and repeat a few times) - this should make sure you have full pedal travel. You need full pedal travel - in other words when you press the accelerator down very slightly when stationary in 1st gear the car should react and start creeping forward straight away - if you have to press your throttle pedal halfway down before the car does anything your pedals are not set up with full travel. On some wheels (Microsoft) the game will only recognise half of the pedal travel the first time you calaibrate them but if you calibrate them a second time it often recognises your pedal setup properly (split axis etc) and then gives full axis travel for each pedal. So it's worth doing this to make sure your pedals are setup correctly.
You can also test this by looking at the red real-time axis displays on the Calibration page (in-game) - you will see a red steering axis display which should mimic your steering wheel and you will also see two red pedal axis bars which should accurately follow what you do with your pedals; so if you press a pedal fully down the axis display should be completely red and if you fully lift from a pedal the red axis bar should disappear (you should also press both pedals down fully at the same time and make sure both pedal axis bars are completely red - this means you pedals are setup as 'separate' axis correctly).

You should try to map most of the important keyboard functions to the buttons on your steering wheel (depending on how many buttons your wheel may have). I have a Logitech Momo now so apart from the gear shifters it has 6 buttons spare. It's mainly down to personal preference but these are the functions I have mapped to my steering wheel - Pit Limiter, Clutch, Look Behind, LCD Display Cycle, Request Pit and Neutral. I don't use Traction Control so the TC override button is useless to me and although I would like Launch Control mapped to the wheel I use the other functions a lot more.

The 'Digital Rates' are only for keyboard. Some people think these settings effect steering wheels too but I'm pretty sure they don't (after lots of testing) and I can only look at the game from my own experience. If you have assigned a clutch button to your steering wheel then that is the only button where the Digital Rate setting will have an effect. In a real car the clutch would normally be analogue so it wouldn't engage or dis-engage in an instant - as a result the game allows you to adjust how quickly (in percentage) the F1 clutch will react when you press the button on your wheel. I have mine at 10% (the minimum setting) so when I let go of the clutch button at the start of a race there is more time to get the throttle amount correct before the clutch actually dis-engages (and there is less chance of stalling). It sounds more complicated than it is. My advice for the digital rates would be to set them all to the minimum setting (10%).

'Speed Sensitivity' has been discussed a lot and I often find that people use very different settings for it (even with similar wheels). This setting effects how fast the car reacts at high speed but there seems to be some confusion as to which setting you have to use to lower or increase the sensitivity in the game. You would expect that the higher settings (percentages) would make the car more sensitive at high speed and the lower settings would make the car less sensitive but this is not the case for most steering wheels - for all of the steering wheels I have used I had to set a very low 'Speed Sensitivity' percentage to make the car react quicker at high speed.
A lot of people look at the Speed Sensitivity setting as if you are adjusting 'lag' in the steering axis - so at 0% there is no lag (or delay) when you turn the wheel at high speed and at 100% there is quite a big delay when you turn the wheel... this is also my view of the setting and as a result I normally set it to 0% because I don't want any lag at all. However on certain wheels (Microsoft) I found that the car was actually too sensitive at 0% and I had to increase it to around 20%.
So the 'Speed Sensitivity' setting can be trial and error and if you use a very low setting the car can seem far too responsive (at first) but it's always best to drive a few laps and see if you can get used to it. I often find that most of the very quick drivers have the setting between 0% and 15%.

The Axis Sensitivity page is very important as it effects how your steering wheel and pedals actually work while driving.
The X axis is your steering axis so if you were to set it to 0% you would have to use lots of steering lock to get around even the very easy turns and if you were to set it to 100% you would hardly have to use any lock to get around tight turns. It is an important setting and can vary from wheel to wheel but it's best to start with 50% and if it feels too sensitive you can lower it and if it isn't sensitive enough you can increase the setting. For the Thrustmaster Ferrari F1 wheel I had to raise this setting to 75% to achieve my best lap times, but for the Microsoft FF and Logitech Momo I found 50-55% to be the best setting.

Assuming you only have two pedals (and no clutch pedal) then two of the remaining axis on this page will be used for throttle and brake and all of the others are irrelevant. In other words if the game recognises your throttle as Y axis and your brake as RZ axis then the remaining axis (RX, RY, Z etc) will not be used at all in your game setup and changing them would have no effect on the game.
When you originally calibrated your pedals from within the game it would have displayed the axis in the function assignment display so you should already know what your throttle and brake pedals have been recognised as (normally Y for throttle and Z or RZ for brake) but it doesn't matter if you don't. This is because both pedals should be set to the same sensitivity as each other so you can simply adjust all the remaining axis sensitivity settings if you want to be sure you are adjusting your pedals - as I mentioned earlier; adjusting the axis settings that your game doesn't use won't make any difference.
Both throttle and brake should definitely be set to 50% Sensitivity as this is 'linear' (like a real car pedal) and as a result should give you more accurate control of your braking and accelerating. Using throttle as an example - if you lower the Sensitivity setting you will have to press the pedal too much to get the required acceleration and if you increase it there will be too much power too early when you press the throttle and there will be a much greater chance of spinning. I have tested this a lot and I am almost certain that both pedals should definitely be set to 50% Sensitivity - I actually used to use 75% Sensitivity for this setting (a few years ago) but when I adjusted to 50% it definitely improved my lap times.
So set your throttle and brake axis Sensitivity to 50%, and if for some reason you aren't sure which axis are been used for throttle and brake simply adjust all of the remaining axis to 50% (except X axis which will be your steering axis, although you might have this set to 50% anyway).

'Axis Deadzones' are areas in the axis travel which won't give any response - so if you have a 5% deadzone on the steering axis (X axis) you will have to turn the wheel for around 5% of it's full lock before the car starts to turn, and if you have a 10% deadzone on your brake axis you will have to press the brake pedal down for the first 10% of it's travel before the brake actually starts to do anything. This is very bad and as a result it is recommended that most people using a steering wheel should set all deadzones to 0% (I think they are set to 5% by default so they need to be adjusted to 0%).
I have all deadzones set to 0% with one exception - the steering axis on my Logitech Momo. The Momo rattles slightly in a straight line - normally this wouldn't be too bad but because I use 0% Speed Senstivity it means the car is very sensitive and can start going off line at high speed quite easily. As a result I use a very small 1% deadzone on the steering axis (X axis) so there is a tiny section of wheel travel which doesn't do anything. This isn't really noticable turning from left to right so it doesn't effect the accuracy of my driving. Most people won't even need 1% though and should set all deadzones to 0%.

If your steering wheel has Force Feedback you can also set that up in the game. This is another setting which is mainly down to personal preference.
I use the 'Medium' setting for 'Force Feedback Effects' (because I don't want the wheel to shake too much) and -60% Force Feedback Strength. Some steering wheels require a positive Strength setting to produce resistance (such as the Microsoft wheel) and others require a negative Strength setting to produce resistance (such as the Logitech Momo). You will know if your steering wheel is set up incorrectly because the Force Feedback will be trying to 'pull' you around the turns rather than resisting your steering inputs - when you have this kind of problem it is easy to spot, and to fix it you should just change your Force Feedback Strength setting to the opposite of what you were originally using (e.g. from a negative value to a positive value, so if you were using 50% you would change it to -50%).
Force Feedback does not seem to effect lap times - I have driven many laps with and without Force Feedback and I was not faster either way. Maybe the 'feedback' is not as helpful as it sounds when it comes to keeping the car under control at speed. It is nice to have the option though.

With your steering wheel set up correctly at least you can be confident that you have everything good and ready to start driving laps without worrying about changing things at a later date. There are some steering wheel settings which I think are simply down to what suits each individual person but there are other settings (such as the 50% Sensitivity for pedals) which I am almost certain are correct if you want to drive as well as you can.


5. Driving Aids.

On the subject of the driving aids of course I say turn them all off, every single one of them, but I know some people have reasons for using particular aids;

'Invulnerability' is useful if you want to drive Hotlaps (pushing very hard) without the risk of damaging the car if you push too hard - you never have to stop for damage and if you make a mistake and crash you can simply get back on track and drive round to the start of your next quick lap. It is also useful for basic online races - lag can often make opponents appear as if they have stopped on track (even though they haven't) but if you drive into the back of them the game often assumes you have just hit someone and it causes damage to your car - using 'Invulnerability' prevents this and it also means you won't be out of the race at the first corner (due to the lack of a rear wing).

'Clutch Assistance' is another aid which is more for convienience than anything else - if you spin and stop on the circuit it will keep the engine running without you having to react quickly and press the clutch or neutral buttons. I've gotten used to pressing the clutch button on my steering wheel so I rarely stall now but I can see why some people would rather use it.

Manual gear changing was one of the hardest things for me to learn when I started playing driving games - it is very difficult when you first try it so a lot of people are probably put off and decide to stick with 'Auto Shifting'. Manual shifting is definitely worth the effort though.
It seems to be one of those things where once you have it perfected you never forget it and it can easily be applied to any racing game - for me personally it is much more interesting using manual gears and I really enjoy it, manual downshifting can also help shorten braking distances slightly (due to engine braking) and if I try to go back to automatic gears it feels very strange (as if there is nothing to do while driving). It's certainly one of the most challenging parts to racing simulations when you first start out but once you learn to shift gears manually you will get more enjoyment out of the game and you'll wonder how you ever used to drive with automatic gears.

In some online sessions the host disallows all driving aids completely - this never bothers me but there are often people who join the session and they say they need 'Clutch Assistance' or 'Auto Shifting' to be able to drive properly... because of this I think it would be better if those aids were allowed as standard because they don't offer any advantage (if the host is trying to keep a level playing field). None of the three driving aids mentioned above really improve your lap times in any way so I don't see what the problem is when someone wants to use one of them. All of the other driving aids available were actually made to help the car's behaviour on track and improve performance. I could never use any of them myself but there is one driving aid which is either praised and criticized on a regular basis...


6. Traction Control.

It's difficult to argue (when the real life Formula One drivers are using it) that this driving aid should be disallowed in online sessions, or that people shouldn't use it at all. A lot of people do use it now; partly because of real life F1 rules and partly because they find driving without traction control frustrating. I do understand this and yet I still find myself wanting to convince everyone to turn it off.
Using 'Low' traction control would definitely make me slightly quicker (and more consistant) but at the same time it would take away a lot of the challenge and it would almost remove one of the main driving techniques in throttle control.

Before traction control was introduced into Formula One Olivier Panis was able to compare some of his telemetry to that of Michael Schumacher to study why Michael was quicker - he found that Michael "did everything possible to maintain constant speed in the corners...using a smoother and more consistent application of the throttle". Without traction control techniques such as this are very difficult and you often end up spinning the car, but the drivers who did perfect the technique obviously got the benefits from it. Now that traction control has been introduced into Formula One this advantage will almost have disappeared as it is a lot easier to keep some throttle pressed down constantly during a corner; and it might also explain why some of the gaps between team mates are closing.

Driving without traction control can be very frustrating to begin with as it often means spinning the car after almost every corner, but it does get easier. Along with manual gears I would say it is the most difficult thing to learn but it is also the most rewarding when you can exit a corner on the limit of the cars grip (maybe even hearing some wheel spin) without actually going over the limit and spinning the car. It is possible to drive without traction control and still do consistant laps - there is more on this later in the guide.


7. Choosing A Good Car.

It really depends on what you want to achieve and also which Formula One cars you would actually like to drive. Some people might not want to drive a Ferrari but at the same time it is clearly (in my opinion) the best car in the game for overall speed and grip, so if you want to be driving the best lap times possible you really should use it. I am of course talking about the 2002 car.

In 'F1 2002' the Williams was the best car - it was slightly more difficult to drive (due to the engine power) but it nearly always resulted in the best lap times and all the hotlap websites reflected this. As a result I think a lot of people who upgraded to F1 Challenge instantly assumed the Williams was still the best - I see a lot of Williams drivers online and usually it's not because they are huge fans of the team; they simply think the Williams is the fastest car.

In F1 Challenge the 2002 Williams is very heavy - yes it still has a slight top speed advantage due to the engine power but unlike 'F1 2002' the extra weight actually has a large effect on lap times, so it is no longer the best car. Part of the confusion concerning how good (or bad) the Williams car is might be down to the fact that a lot of people are using the Ralph Hummerich 2003 season update now and they see the current 2003 F1 races and assume the Williams is a very good car in the game too, however this 2003 season addon uses the exact performance data of the original F1 Challenge 2002 season so the Williams is still very heavy and difficult to drive.

It's still personal preference if you want to drive as quick as possible - some people might be massive Williams fans and they simply don't want to drive anything else, that is up to them - I have still seen some very good lap times driven with the Williams but only by the extremely quick drivers.
If you don't want to drive a Ferrari then the McLaren is another very good car - I find it to be faster than the Williams and not far behind the Ferrari.
For me personally I am a fan of the super red team so I'm quite happy to drive the 2002 Ferrari - it was easily the best car in the 2002 Formula One season and F1 Challenge replicates this.

Obviously lap times aren't everything (?) so there are plenty of other cars to choose from. The Renault is a good car to drive and it is still competitive, the Jordan is a lot of fun too (like a slower version of the Ferrari) and even the Minardi is enjoyable if you don't mind been in the slowest car - it might not be fast in a straight line but it is a very predictable and forgiving car, I would actually recommend it to anyone new to F1 games. Also by driving one of these "lesser" cars you do appreciate the faster cars even more.


8. Car Setup.

I am not going to go into great detail about the various car setup options because there is a very popular (and very good) guide by RacerAlex available which already does this. It was written mainly for F1 2002 but it works just as well with F1 Challenge (taking into account one or two small differences). The guide is available to read here;

http://w3.enternet.hu/iroland/html/af1.htm

One thing I will say about setting up the car is simply don't rule anything out. I have been guilty of this in the past; assuming that depending on the circuit there were some settings you simply shouldn't try as they would never work. For example don't assume Monaco is 50 front - 50 rear wings and nothing else, it's always worth trying something new. I remember a few months ago I was discussing setups with someone online and they told me they were using 32-40 wings (32 front and 40 rear) - I couldn't believe it and I actually told them they wouldn't be able to do decent lap times unless they were using a setup where the front wing was greater than (or at least equal to) the rear wing. That's what I believed at the time, however since then I have tried adjusting setups to use greater rear wings (while using other settings to balance the car) and it has worked with very good results. So now I know that it is possible to make a very useful setup with wing settings I used to think were "back to front".
Until you have actually tested something for a good few laps you can't be sure it is wrong to take your setup in that direction.

Another thing I always found quite hard to understand was the theory of making a setup "to suit your driving style". I never thought it made much difference; surely everyone had pretty much the same driving style and if you had a good setup you'd be able to drive fast, but once again I have since realised this is untrue - making a setup for yourself is important. I think my driving style is pretty average - I like lots of turn-in and corner grip (who doesn't?) and I prefer a bit of oversteer much more than understeer. Because of this my setups are pretty average too and I think that's why a lot of other people have found them useful, but there are some drivers out there who have very different driving styles - some are capable of exploiting all the grip and benefits of a high downforce setup (pushing the limits more than the rest of us) while others have the ability to cope with much less grip and enjoy the nice straight line speed and acceleration of a low downforce setup while still being able to get the car through the corners quite well.

I didn't really start learning the car setup options until I bought F1 2001 a few years ago but since then (and following on with F1 2002 and F1 Challenge) I have learnt a huge amount about Formula One cars and what all the different setup parameters are for. It's taken me a very long time (almost 3 years) but I'm now confident I can make a setup from scratch for any racing circuit and start driving competitive lap times. There is a lot of trial and error involved in learning how to set the car up but despite this (and despite all the hard work and reading involved) I definitely recommend it if you have the time to spare - you are much better prepared for driving quick lap times if you know what to change on the setup to improve the car in all situations.

I've been lucky with my progress in making setups as I am a test driver for Delta Racing (Formula SimRacing World Championship team) - this has allowed me to drive online with some of the best drivers in the world and also discuss setup changes with them. In the past I have made a setup for a circuit from scratch (working hard on my lap times to make sure the setup is quick) and then I have given it to the team and our race drivers have gone out on track and instantly gone 1 second faster than me (using the exact same setup). This might seem a bit demoralising but at the same time it proves the setup was always capable of a lot more than I was getting out of it - I use that as inspiration and I work harder on my driving techniques because I know there is nothing wrong with my setup.
So if you make a setup yourself and you can't do really quick lap times with it don't assume your setup is bad or that you aren't good at making setup adjustments - there might be nothing at all wrong with your setup; you just need to work on getting the most out of it. It also means that getting a setup from one of the best drivers will not always be the "easy answer" you might think it is - those drivers are capable of getting the most out of a setup and they can also adjust them to suit their own style. So if you try a setup which someone else has done super fast times with you can often find that you aren't any faster using it than you were with your own - and if this happens it means you need to concentrate more on your technique and less on the setup.

Some of my favourite settings for the F1 cars are usually the simple ones - wings, weight distribution, anti-roll bars, springs, ride height etc. With these settings alone you can normally 'rough in' a decent setup for any circuit and then make smaller adjustments from there.
Using a combination of wing and weight distribution settings I find it quite easy to get the car set up areodynamically for almost any circuit. For example; if you have understeer using 44 front - 38 rear wings with a front weight distribution of 44 you can simply move the weight slightly more to the rear (so you have a front weight distribution of 43 or 42.5) and this single change can have a huge impact on the effectiveness of the setup. If this results in too much oversteer in the high speed turns you can simply remove two or three clicks from the front wing because the extra rear weight bias will mean the car still has good turn-in ability.

I normally find a very soft rear anti-roll bar (between 30 and 50) can really help with rear wheel traction, and very soft rear springs (between 95 and 110) are useful for the same reason - I apply this to nearly all of my setups as it is very useful for driving without traction control.
The front anti-roll bar and front springs are much more difficult to set up as it really depends on the circuit and how fast you want the car to respond (and how stable you want the front of the car to be). As an average I would say my front springs are normally around 175 and the front anti-roll bar is usually around 200 but I can't recommend simply changing your setup to these values and forgetting about them - the circuit and your driving style will have a large effect on what settings you should actually use.

If you were to increase (stiffen) the front springs you would get much better turn-in and much faster change of direction but the car would be more difficult over the curbs and you might not have very good traction from the front end on the exit of turns.
If you want stability and balance in high speed turns you can increase (stiffen) the front anti-roll bar but it will again be more difficult over the curbs and will probably create a 'push' effect (understeer) when turning the wheel at higher speeds. If the front anti-roll bar is too soft it can create a lot more oversteer in every situation but this can be useful for holding a tight line around low or medium speed corners as the car doesn't try to run wide quite so much.

Another setting worth remembering is tyre camber - F1 Challenge models this more accurately than F1 2002 and as a result you don't need anywhere near as much. Front camber should normally be more than the rear setting and you can decide on what adjustments to make to tyre camber by watching your tyre temperatures on the cockpit LCD display while driving. If the inside edges of the tyres are heating up much more than the middle or outside edges it probably means you have too much negative camber on the tyres. For F1 Challenge I've found that a front tyre camber of around -2.8 is useful for most circuits but the rear tyres are much more difficult to set up - If I was driving a circuit such as Spa with lots of fast turns I would probably have the rear camber at a similar setting (-2.8) but if I was driving a very low downforce circuit such as Monza (where traction out of slow corners is very important) I would probably want a much lower setting of around -1.8

Setting the car up does involve a lot of trial and error though - even for real F1 teams; you often hear how they made changes for a certain session (such as single lap qualifying) and the changes didn't work at all. So even the experts make mistakes when setting up their cars.
It's certainly worth learning however as it can give great confidence when you just 'know' what changes to make to improve the car on a circuit (making it faster). I recommend it to anyone who has never tried making their own setups in the past.

Fiddle with the settings, read the guides (RacerAlex Advanced Guide in particular) and learn what works and what doesn't - it's the best way to go if you want to make setups to suit your own style of driving.


9. Driving Techniques.

It's easy isn't it? You brake, turn, accelerate, brake, turn, accelerate... do this a few thousand times and you become World Champion? And how I wish it was as easy as that...

I'll start with a simple piece of advice - think about every corner before you get to it. Think about the braking point, the turn-in point, the downshifts, and exactly what you want to do with the pedals during the turn. And once you are on the exit of one corner start thinking about the next.
You need to be focused for any racing lap but even more so if you are going for new lap records. Sometimes your first sector will be great and sometimes you will drive the perfect line through a very difficult chicane... Don't admire your own driving or you will almost always lose focus and make an error at the next turn.
Finish the lap and if it does turn out to be a great one you can always watch the replay.


9.1. Braking;

You need to learn to be smooth with the brake pedal as soon as possible. Yes you can hammer it when you are doing 200mph if you need to be ready for a 1st gear chicane but you still need to be able to release the brake pedal smoothly.
Lets assume you are going to press the brake pedal fully to the floor when you reach your next braking point - If you brake from 200mph down to 50mph without gradually releasing the pedal towards the end of the braking zone you will lock the brakes badly. This will cause you to either run far too deep into the corner (if you lock the front brakes) or even worse spin the car (if you lock the rear brakes). Which brakes lock up first depends on your 'brake bias' in the setup - if you use 60 front:40 rear you will most probably lock the front brakes under braking and if you use 55 front:45 rear you will almost certainly lock the rear brakes and spin. But you don't want to lock up at all so for the moment don't even think about it - just concentrate on releasing the brake pedal smoothly (and gradually) as you reach the end of your braking zone (and the start of your turn-in point) and there shouldn't be too many problems.
Another popular technique while braking is to use some throttle at the same time to steady the car (and to stop the rear of the car coming around) - this is mainly used by drivers who prefer the 'brake bias' to be towards the rear. As I mentioned earlier; when the brake bias is towards the rear there is a much greater chance of the rear brakes locking and the car having oversteer under braking - using a very small amount of throttle while braking can prevent this.
You might think "why would anyone want their brake bias towards the rear if it simply causes problems such as this?", well that's because a rear brake bias can really help corner turn-in as the car is automatically trying to oversteer, and in the early stages of this 'oversteer under braking' it will normally point the nose of the car in the direction you want to turn. So it can be a useful bonus if you can perfect the technique - you haven't even turned the wheel and the car is already starting to turn into the corner.
Of course this is a very difficult technique, a lot of it is down to timing and a huge amount is down to pedal control (so that you can cause just the right amount of oversteer at just the right time). I've practiced this technique for a long time and I still can't do it perfectly lap after lap but I can definitely see the benefits, and by using some throttle while braking it means you will already have the engine revs up as you start to turn into the corner - this can save you some extra tenths which would normally be spent getting the revs up from a much lower amount if you hadn't been pressing the throttle slightly towards the end of your braking zone. The higher revs during turn-in can also be of benefit at the apex and on the exit of the corner depending on the type of turn you are driving.
If you have your brake bias more to the front then you shouldn't get much oversteer while braking but there is a much greater chance of running too deep into the corner, even if the front brakes don't lock up. Formula One brakes are so powerful that you only have be pressing them slightly (at low speed) for them to have an effect on the car, and with a front brake bias this effect will be too keep the car running straight and will make it much harder to turn into the corner when you turn the steering wheel. The simple solution to this is to remember to release the brake pedal completely just before turn-in - as long as you have reduced your speed enough for the corner there shouldn't be any problems as you get back on throttle ready to drive through the upcoming corner. This technique of releasing the brake pedal is definitely worth remembering - I've often turned into a corner and ended up running too deep in the turn (understeer) and at first I've thought it was simply because I was carrying too much speed, but quite often this wasn't the case and it was simply because I still had a small amount of the brake pedal pressed down. So release the brake pedal gradually and try to make sure you have fully lifted from the pedal just before you turn-in.

These braking techniques are very hard to learn and unfortunately I've found that some pedals are better than others for using the more complex techniques (such as throttle under braking). I prefer the Logitech Momo pedals as they are more comfortable for me - the Microsoft pedals were okay too but I didn't like the pedals that came with the Thrustmaster Ferrari F1 wheel... the various techniques just weren't as easy with those pedals and I was much less consistent. I think a lot of people ignore the pedals when they are buying a new steering wheel but you should always give them some serious thought - they are more important than you might think.

One final braking technique which I used a lot in F1 2002 was a technique especially for fast turns and chicanes. If you are reaching a fast chicane in only 5th or 6th (due to the previous straight been quite short) and you know you could take the chicane in that same gear if you weren't using full throttle then rather than lifting the throttle at all you can simply tap the brakes very slightly before you turn-in. This will normally knock just enough speed off so that you can make it through the chicane with full throttle constantly applied - it will lower the revs a little bit and because you tapped the brakes before you entered the chicane you have the benefit of accelerating all the way through it, so when you exit the chicane your speed will be almost as fast as it was just before you tapped the brakes on entry. This braking technique is normally a lot more stable than lifting the throttle before a corner or chicane (especially at high speeds) so it is worth trying.
Unfortunately that technique was a lot easier in F1 2002 than it is in F1 Challenge; In F1 2002 you had a huge amount of high speed grip (more than real life F1) so you could drive through a lot of the fast chicanes and corners in very high gears. The developers changed this for F1 Challenge (removing some of the high speed grip) so now this technique is much more difficult. I used to use this style of baking at 'Waite' in Albert Park, 'Pouhon' in Spa and the first fast chicane in Magny-Cours (among others) and although it can still be used at certain corners in F1 Challenge (if you have a very good setup) it is nowhere near as easy as it was.


9.2. Downshifting;

You might not think downshifting is particularly important but you should give it some thought - it's not just a case of pressing the gear shifter as many times as you need to as fast as you can physically do it.
If you are at high speed in 7th gear and you want to brake and downshift for a 1st gear corner or chicane the first 4 downshifts should be as quick as possible - this will create some 'engine braking' as the lower speed gears (5th, 4th, 3rd) will be forcing the engine to slow down at the same time as you are pressing the brake pedal. By now you will be in 3rd gear and you should shift to 2nd just before turn-in (when most speed is knocked off) and then 1st as you start to enter the corner. This technique prevents the "snap oversteer" that occurs when you shift down to a very low speed gear while you are still going too fast (as you haven't been braking long enough at that point), so you have to be careful and smooth with your downshifts towards the end of the braking zone - releasing the brake pedal gradually (very smoothly) and only making the final few downshifts when you know you have knocked off enough speed for those gears.
If you were just to shift from 7th to 1st as fast as you could press the gear shifter there is a very good chance you would spin instantly when you reached 2nd or 1st gear because you would still be going too fast for those gears (and their maximum revs) - the brakes on an F1 car are very good but they still need a bit of a chance to slow the car down when you are using them from over 200mph.
So it is important to think about your downshifting (and when you should do it) as this can really help cut out some of the mistakes caused by choosing the wrong gear or choosing the 'right' gear too early. It sometimes happens in real life too - I remember Mika Hakkinen selecting the wrong gear once when he was leading a grand prix (I think he selected 2nd when he wanted 3rd); he spun instantly and it was end of his race.

One final downshift technique I should mention can be used when you are downshifting for a fast corner that you don't really need to slow down for very much (e.g. if you were in 7th at full speed and you were coming up to a fast turn which you can normally take in 5th) - in this situation it might be better (quicker) if you don't actually brake at all. Just shift down from 7th to 6th before turn-in (without lifting off the throttle) and finally shift down to 5th as you enter the corner (maybe with a slight lift of the accelerator to prevent the negative effect on car balance that downshifts can have when lots of throttle is applied). The 'engine braking' will slow you down and that should be more than enough if you have a stable setup with a decent level of downforce - you also save the tenths you would normally lose by using the brake pedal in a similar situation.
A good example of this is the Maggots/Becketts/Chapel complex at Silverstone - I never actually touch the brake once when I negotiate that section of the lap and it saves me a huge amount of time compared to a lot of other drivers (I always have a very good first sector). I approach the complex in 7th gear, drive through Maggots and the entry to Becketts (still in 7th) without lifting the throttle at all, shift down to 6th on the exit of Becketts (with a slight lift to prevent imbalance) and then I shift down to 5th for Chapel and play with the accelerator pedal so I use enough revs to carry as much speed through the corner as possible without using too much and spinning at the apex or running wide on the exit. This technique might not be the best for a race distance (as in theory it should cause the engine to overheat earlier) but I've actually used it in some shorter races without any problems (and it is certainly a good technique for qualifying).


9.3. Turn-In;

You should always know exactly when you want to turn-in. Most drivers know the best line through a corner naturally and just in case they don't there are plenty of guides for this (including the manual), but I always find it is worth experimenting with - you might think you know the best line but this doesn't mean it is definitely the fastest. I often try turning in earlier and then I move the weight distribution slightly to the rear and I try turning in later. This is to see which line lets me carry the most speed into the corner, and I can check the speeds accurately using telemetry. Replays of the fastest drivers can also be useful when trying out the best driving lines because if there is a quick way of doing something they normally have it worked out.
You should concentrate on re-applying the throttle very early just before turn-in (if you weren't using 'throttle under braking') and then focus on holding a constant (if very small) amount of throttle throughout the whole turn - this keeps the revs up and the car will start accelerating on the exit earlier. If you don't use this constant throttle technique then you will have to wait for the revs to get back up when you press the accelerator on the exit of a turn. It's also good to have the ability to 'play' with the throttle pedal so if you feel yourself starting to run wide you can very slightly ease off and if you seem to be turning too much into the corner (due to not carrying enough speed) you can slowly apply a little more throttle as you are reaching the apex. I find playing with the throttle pedal during a turn to be one of the hardest techniques to master but if you have the correct speed to begin with (on corner entry) you shouldn't have to make too many adjustments with the accelerator until you reach the exit.

I have spoken to some people who say they never fully lift the throttle pedal during a qualifying lap - in other words they are applying throttle for the whole lap! It might sound crazy but when you think about it it isn't... You have the braking technique where you apply some throttle under braking to stabilize the car, you need a decent amount of throttle on turn-in (depending on the how tight the corner actually is), you hold a constant throttle during the entry (and all the way through to the apex) and then you start accelerating on the exit - if you applied those techniques to every turn on the circuit you would never fully lift off the throttle. Obviously during some of those turns (such as hairpins or very tight chicanes) you will only be applying the slightest amount of throttle (the very minimum) but you are still keeping the revs up throughout the whole lap and that's probably why the drivers who use this approach are so fast.


9.4. Hitting The Apex;

An important bit of advice to begin with - try not to make sudden or aggressive movements of the steering wheel or throttle pedal while driving through the apex as this can really unsettle the cars overall balance; when you take into account the fact that you are often driving over a curb at this point in the corner an imbalanced car is the last thing you need.
You shouldn't really have to adjust your driving line through the apex if you choose a good turn-in point and remember that any mid-corner adjustments you do need to make can hurt your acceleration.
Carrying as much speed as you can through the apex you should then focus on accelerating as soon as possible - you will already be using quite a bit of throttle at the apex and this RPM will help the car increase it's speed more quickly, but you don't want to use so much throttle that you cause the car to run wide or spin (depending on the setup).

I've talked a lot about how you have to be smooth with the throttle throughout the corner and even if you think you are carrying too much speed into the apex it's normally better if you don't lift off the accelerator completely as this will cause the weight to shift forward (similar to braking but less extreme) and it can create an understeer effect because of the extra weight the front wheels are trying to hold along your racing line. As a result it's often better to stay on the throttle even when you think you are carrying too much speed and instead try to use a slight lift (smooth and gradual) as you approach the apex rather than fully lifting off.

You should try to return your steering wheel to the centre position as soon as possible when you hit the apex and start to exit the corner - this will make oversteer and spins less likely as there is less chance of the car becoming unstable under acceleration if the front wheels are pointing straight. It's difficult to get used to this technique but it's definitely worth keeping in mind on the exit; and if you took a good line through the corner you should be able to centre the steering wheel very early.
Try to be very smooth with the accelerator as you apply more and more power on the exit as this will help stability - if you just straighten the wheels up and apply full throttle instanlty as you exit a slow turn you will nearly always cause the car to spin - the rear wheels simply don't have the grip to cope with the power applied to them. It's difficult as you want to reach full throttle as soon as possible but you don't want to be too aggressive as this will greatly increase the chances of spinning or at least having a bit of oversteer which will cost you time.


9.5. Corner Exit;

The aim is obvious - to have full throttle applied as early as possible when you pass the apex and start exiting the corner, but this is rarely as simple as it sounds. Of course if you follow the advice from earlier in the guide you will already be carrying speed through the corner from turn-in and up to the apex by holding a small amount of throttle constantly; so you will already have a good speed and rpm level ready to start accelerating on the exit.
If you are learning to drive without Traction Control it's quite common to spin on the exit of a corner regularly - you use too much of the accelerator too soon and the rear tyres don't have the grip level to deal with it - the wheels start to spin and the car follows shortly after. This can be very frustrating and is often the reason why people start using Traction Control in the first place.
It does take a lot of practice to be able to drive quickly and effectively without Traction Control but it is certainly possible and I believe anyone can do it, even those who claim to be "heavy footed".
So how does it work? As you exit the corner how do you know when the car is about to spin or when you are using an amount of throttle that you shouldn't go beyond if you want to keep the car facing in the right direction? Well, it's very hard to explain. Driving a computer racing simulation you simply don't have the benefits of feeling a real car around you, you can't physically 'feel' the tyres losing grip and don't have the same feedback from the car and it's behaviour on the circuit; so somehow you have to judge the grip level of the car through audio and visual references. I'm not 100% sure how it works but at the same time I nearly always know if the car is close to spinning or if I have pushed too hard on the exit and it is about to lose traction. Maybe it's the sound of the tyres (which I have turned up quite loud in the 'Sound Effects' options) or maybe there are visual references in the game that were programmed to give people time to react - perhaps you see the oversteer effect starting for a split second and you know whether or not to lift slightly from the throttle (or at least not to push the pedal any further down).
It's a strange sensation to explain and a difficult one to teach but I think as a driver in real life you instinctively know what the car is doing and when you have pushed it too far. I think a very good setup is a useful addition when driving without Traction Control in a computer simulation because you want plenty of rear traction - maybe a setup with plenty of this available can almost give you a warning (and time to react) if the car is close to it's limit.
A good car always helps of course; unfortunately in the case of rear wheel traction I think the 2002 Ferrari is not the best. It has very good entry and mid corner grip, great acceleration and top speed, and plenty of general high speed grip, but I think when it comes to corner exit the Ferrari seems to have a lot of "snap oversteer" unless you drive it very carefully. Some of the other cars such as the Jordan and Minardi are a lot easier and maybe they are better for people who are new to the game or people who have recently decided to turn Traction Control off for good. Come to think of it the Ferrari's haven't been great at getting off the grid from a standstill for quite a few seasons now (even with traction control) so maybe they really haven't got very good traction from the rear wheels and the game is simply reflecting this.

Another useful technique on the exit of a corner is to short shift; in other words if you exit a tight turn in 2nd gear you can shift up to 3rd before the orange or red RPM lights actually appear. This doesn't seem to have a great effect on acceleration and it also means there is less chance of spinning because you never reach maximum revs on the exit of a turn - the car is much more likely to spin if you use maximum revs in an extreme situation (such as the corner exit with high g-force), so shifting up early will drop the revs back down and you should then be able to use a bit more throttle as you finish exiting the turn. I use this technique quite a lot towards the end of a race when the tyres have decided they'd rather not stick to the road anymore - it can be very helpful.

Once you have mastered the concept of perfect turn-in, apex and exit speed you should feel as though you have a flow and rhythm through the corners (and throughout each lap as a whole). I know slowing down, changing direction and speeding up is a standard part of every corner but even this should feel fast and fluid. If you are often hesitant with the pedals or steering motions (or the corners have a very 'stop-start' feel) you are probably losing time; you might even find there are places during a lap when you aren't pressing either pedal at all - this is not a good thing.


9.6. Throttle Control - Finding The Limit;

Following on from the corner exit techniques I think it is important to have a closer look at how Formula One cars react when you are close to the limit; under acceleration from low speeds.
You might have noticed that some of the best real life F1 drivers often make little mistakes or spin in a practice session but they rarely do it in a race - this is because they are finding the limit of the car and it's grip levels during a session where perfect driving isn't so important. So it's a very useful way of learning what your car is capable of on each circuit and a similar approach should be tried when driving simulations.
I sometimes try pushing the car too far on purpose; knowing it will almost certainly result in a mistake but at the same time I am gaining useful knowledge of the grip and areodynamic limits - in a race I will rarely make the same errors. The car regularly spins when you don't want it to so why not get your own back? Drive the car to it's limits and force it to spin the wheels for a change - if you never try exploring the limits you'll never know how fast the car can actually go.

A few years ago I downloaded an onboard lap of Ayrton Senna at Monaco; I think it was a pole position lap from the early 90's. It was a very impressive lap (as you would expect) but the biggest standout for me was the opposite lock he used on the exit of the very tight Grand Hotel haipin - he obviously tried to accelerate too fast too early but when the car started to oversteer he kept the throttle down and just turned the wheel in the opposite direction to keep the car going in a straight line (almost like a rally car).
This was surprising to me because I had never seen that technique used in Formula One before - I know it happens all the time in other motorsports (such as Karting and Rallying) but not Formula One. These days that type of oversteer on the exit of a slow 1st gear turn would rarely happen (due to the traction control) and even if it did happen the drivers couldn't do much to correct it because the grooved tyres simply don't have the grip required.
So I don't believe opposite lock is a viable way of correcting oversteer in real F1 today but does it work in the game? Well, I gave it a good try but I have to admit there
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for me i think the only circuit i can match linkin is sepang...i can clock it at 1.30 on 04..
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Before traction control was introduced into Formula One Olivier Panis was able to compare some of his telemetry to that of Michael Schumacher to study why Michael was quicker - he found that Michael "did everything possible to maintain constant speed in the corners...using a smoother and more consistent application of the throttle".

can't help myself from being proud rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif

btw, i think bout the TC...i do agree, so much
played other game...w/o TC u can actually take a long turn faster cos nothing is limiting the power channeled 2 the wheels thumbup.gif
but then again, using only keyboard...haiz, quite hard lor
need 2 reduce the key sensitivity...which will increase the response time sad.gif
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 8 2006, 03:15 AM)
for me i think the only circuit i can match linkin is sepang...i can clock it at 1.30 on 04..
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wao...teach me notworthy.gif
i guess the other time when we raced there i was jz lucky 2 b competitive to u sweat.gif
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wah......all of u can compete with real f1 lap time already....
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Last night result
RH2004 GP of europe (9 laps)
Server = Hiwatari

1. Kimi Raikkonen (linkinstreet) - McLaren Mercedes
2. Kei (Junkei_46) - McLaren Mercedes
3. Schumacher (Hiwatari) - Scuderia Ferrari
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Guys,
I've bought it.
When is the next race tongue.gif

I love challenging.
Let see who's faster.
Just for fun...but a minor ego must be there lorr tongue.gif

Have you guys setup the car for better performance?
I think that's the key for success.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 9 2006, 04:06 PM)
Last night result
RH2004 GP of europe (9 laps)
Server = Hiwatari

1. Kimi Raikkonen (linkinstreet) - McLaren Mercedes
2. Kei (Junkei_46) - McLaren Mercedes
3. Schumacher (Hiwatari) - Scuderia Ferrari
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i think there are some mistakes here...
shld b hiwatari 2nd...
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Ah forgot
you guys were just seperated by what?
0.02 of a second right?

here, try using my setup.
http://anime.laypark.com/Settings.zip
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isnt it the same as wut u gave me that day?
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Yep, i was giving that to Yusri
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mayb if we got enough ppl,we can have a league or so...
and set a date so that all can join together..
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Yeah. better.
Also Junkei, i noticed last night you and Hiwatari braked too late at the veedol chicane (last chicane befor last corner). You better brake at the sign that show left. that is the best place as you still have time to accelerate throughout the chicane after that, meaning you arrive at the last corner faster
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 9 2006, 06:48 PM)
Ah forgot
you guys were just seperated by what?
0.02 of a second right?

here, try using my setup.
http://anime.laypark.com/Settings.zip
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I'm quite new to these kind of patching.
linkin, where to put all those files in the Settings.zip?
I understand the whole circuits in a season were in it.
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F!C Folder/save/urname/settings

extract there
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 9 2006, 10:15 PM)
Yeah. better.
Also Junkei, i noticed last night you and Hiwatari braked too late at the veedol chicane (last chicane befor last corner). You better brake at the sign that show left. that is the best place as you still have time to accelerate throughout the chicane after that, meaning you arrive at the last corner faster
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oh, will try when i got the chance...thanks for the advice..
when i play for long time sure i cant concentrate..i can easily run off the track during the last few laps of the race..shld hav easily got P2 with few sec but ran off few times and gone..
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meh, ture. I noticed that when i chased you down that you cannot mantain your speed and line.and run wide at the last corner often
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I suggest you guys try racing a full race distance. Usually I start to lose concentration 80% into the race. but it helps for shorter race.
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I tried at Sepang using Kimi.
Quite hard to maintain direction since when I turn left or right, the controls
moved too quickly...wonder how to make it slower so that when I attack the corners, I won't turn too quickly.

Yup...concentration is soo important.
Look at Schumi...such concentration even at 37 years of age.

Guys,
did you guys adjust thos Difficulty, Display, Additional Display, etc.
How about Traction Control, steering assistance etc.

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I use 100% difficulty. and since i'm using keyboard
Steering help = High
Braking help = None
Traction Control = High
Try adjusting the control's sensitivity.

To know ur FPS, use CTRL + F
this is importatnt as the game run best at 50FPS above. below that, you might feel the car hard to handle

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Ok.
Where to adjust the FSP?

Which circuit are you guys racing next?
So that I can practice tongue.gif
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lower the game visual to get higher FPS. Circuti detail, car detail, try adjust and test with different visual to see one which you like most
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where the server you all race...i want to participate la
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 10 2006, 01:30 AM)
lower the game visual to get higher FPS. Circuti detail, car detail, try adjust and test with different visual to see one which you like most
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What's yours?
I love using higher pixels since it produce better graphics.

1024x768 32 bit 85Hz

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB DDR
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I entered the Multiplayer section.

Internet
Modem 56k or Cable/DSL

What does red and white servers represent?
Tried to enter the white one (there's Malaysia wordo on it)...they asked for password.


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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 10 2006, 01:04 AM)
I use 100% difficulty. and since i'm using keyboard
Steering help = High
Braking help = None
Traction Control = High
Try adjusting the control's sensitivity.

To know ur FPS, use CTRL + F
this is importatnt as the game run best at 50FPS above. below that, you might feel the car hard to handle
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previously i was using steering help but then after i turn it off i think its better..

QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 10 2006, 06:13 AM)
What's yours?
I love using higher pixels since it produce better graphics.

1024x768 32 bit 85Hz

ATI Radeon 9600  Pro 256MB DDR
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since u are using 9600pro 256MB which is same as mine..i think 1024*768 is quite high..try using 800*600 then in the game some settings u need to lower down..

QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 10 2006, 08:47 AM)
I entered the Multiplayer section.

Internet
Modem 56k or Cable/DSL

What does red and white servers represent?
Tried to enter the white one (there's Malaysia wordo on it)...they asked for password.
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those red are password protected while white is open server.
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Steering Help mantains your steering angle during fast corners as with using keyboard, the steering is digital, not analouge like real life cars. I turn it of when i'm using racing.

FPS = Frame Per Second. The time the game refreshes per second. the lower the number, the slower the game, thus the slower the reaction the car will have on your input. You can use 1024*768 with your card and still have 100++ FPS as i used that card before, but you have to sacrifice the eye candy a bit.
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but when i played on9,i can c other car got listed 200ms or 300ms....wat is that means?
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 10 2006, 10:01 AM)
previously i was using steering help but then after i turn it off i think its better..
since u are using 9600pro 256MB which is same as mine..i think 1024*768 is quite high..try using 800*600 then in the game some settings u need to lower down..
those red are password protected while white is open server.
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Kei,
Why you're using lower settings?
Waste la coz you have good display card.

Guys, how to find your servers?
When do you you guys on9?


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the best is we set a time here and also the name of the server and password...btw, i think we shld add each other to YM so then easier to contact...
mine is jiunkei_46
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 10 2006, 11:51 AM)
but when i played on9,i can c other car got listed 200ms or 300ms....wat is that means?
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Ping time aka lag. the less the better

mine is linkinstreet_henshin.

anyways, bigger resolution = more visual can ber shown. but there's a tradeoff with the eyecandy as it will slow the game down. as I said, tyr finding ur own sweet spot. I don't bother with high detail except for my own car.
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Found in the Multiplayer/Internet/Cable&DSL

Game name - LF1CQ.net (Password protected)
Circuit - Petronas Malaysia

Game name - aaa (Password protected)
Circuit - Bahrain

Game name - champion
Circuit - United States

Played for qualifying
Kinda weird at first.

The other cars were moving but we don't see them moving..just heard sound of
the car. Maybe connection kinda thing.


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Lag
usual problem for this game
but usually it will rectify during the race
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I see.
Finally, I suxx during the Q...because of the lagging.
At first using the wrong tyres..it was raining...so using wet tyres.

During the start of the grid...I thought it's like any other racing games that
I've played since you can mess or press the acceleration button and
you can hear the sound of the engines even though you still on the grid.
Just press it and when the race starts...your car would launch.
I was wrong tongue.gif

I pressed it while the 5 lights are still red..then..you know what happen next tongue.gif
I quit...malu la...hehe

Anything that I should know during our race nanti?

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I see.
Finally, I suxx during the Q...because of the lagging.
At first using the wrong tyres..it was raining...so using wet tyres.

During the start of the grid...I thought it's like any other racing games that
I've played since you can mess or press the acceleration button and
you can hear the sound of the engines even though you still on the grid.
Just press it and when the race starts...your car would launch.
I was wrong  tongue.gif

I pressed it while the 5 lights are still red..then..you know what happen next  tongue.gif
I quit...malu la...hehe

Anything that I should know during our race nanti?
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press launch control during the 5 red lights. it's usually the "/" button for me. Release this button when the lights go out and you should have a decent start.
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i pressed the launch control but then still slower comapred to the computer? How to have a better start? anytthing to do with the clutch?
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i think timing is the most important..
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The launch control can only give you that much help. remember, you must predict when the lights will gou out and beat it by the littlest possible margin you can
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The launch control can only give you that much help. remember, you must predict when the lights will gou out and beat it by the littlest possible margin you can
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Yeah...yeah..timing is crucial.
Thanks for the tip.

Maybe I'll try racing with comp first.

When the 5 lights go out...don't bump cars in front of ya biggrin.gif

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The latest mod is 2004-2005.
Correct?
I understand Jiunkei currently using it.
Others have not.
Correct?

How crucial is for us to install it in order to join on9?
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<-- have all the mod starting form 94
it just that if u don't have it, you can't race the 2005 season. but the majority here are still playing the 2004 season. and i'm just beginning to get the grip with the 05 setup, so the races will be using the 04 season for a while
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hmmm...I see.
Keep me posted.

I wish so hard that I'm able to adjust the stability of my controller.
Wish that it functions just like a PS2 controller.
When I play Gran Turismo 4, it's so easy tu turn using the analog button.
But so hard with this ciplak one...racing in F1.
It turn too quickly...so difficult to attack those corners in high speed since
it's crucial to position yourself correctly.
First you need to avoid wenting out the road on the grass or grable.

I clocked 1:22:106 at Cataluna...practice.
I bet you guys are faster then that.
AI Schumi did 1:19 on Q.

I tried using the Launch Control during starting grid...didn't work.
You just need to wait till the green lights...then press pedals.
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did u set the sensitivity for ur controls?
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As you know in the Option menu there's

Controls
Difficulty
Rules
Display
Audio

Control Assigments
Controller Rates
Controller 1
Controller 2
Force Feedback
Additional Force Feedback

Where you think is the place to adjust the analog stuff?
In making turning smoothly not rapidly.

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hav u tried with controller rates?
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hey buddy...when we wanna race together lo?wanna compare who is the king of f1...haha....

how bout u all set the time n date?then at that time,we all on9 to play it ok?
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 11 2006, 01:05 AM)
hmmm...I see.
Keep me posted.

I wish so hard that I'm able to adjust the stability of my controller.
Wish that it functions just like a PS2 controller.
When I play Gran Turismo 4, it's so easy tu turn using the analog button.
But so hard with this ciplak one...racing in F1.
It turn too quickly...so difficult to attack those corners in high speed since
it's crucial to position yourself correctly.
First you need to avoid wenting out the road on the grass or grable.

I clocked 1:22:106 at Cataluna...practice.
I bet you guys are faster then that.
AI Schumi did 1:19 on Q.

I tried using the Launch Control during starting grid...didn't work.
You just need to wait till the green lights...then press pedals.
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This is my controller rate
user posted image

and please check which button ur using as launch control. Press launch control + Gas and release the lauch control when the lights go out. And please, there is no green light in F1
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Ah~~~ the catalan GP..... one of teh easiest circuit
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ur using analouge controller? analouge in F1C are hard as they are very realistic, unless ur using a steering wheel
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Who using keyboard.......??? icon_rolleyes.gif

Not fair i get pole positionbut still lose out to AI when starting the race.....not fair
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[quote=jiunkei_46,May 11 2006, 09:46 AM]
hav u tried with controller rates?
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I'll try it.


and please check which button ur using as launch control. Press launch control + Gas and release the lauch control when the lights go out. And please, there is no green light in F1
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Ah~~~ the catalan GP..... one of teh easiest circuit
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Oooo...push both button is it?
I thought only the Launch control tongue.gif


[quote=khsj,May 11 2006, 12:13 PM]
Who using keyboard.......??? icon_rolleyes.gif

Not fair i get pole positionbut still lose out to AI when starting the race.....not fair
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Keyboard hard la...harder to attack corners at high speed.

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Lol, i'm using keyboard. very easy if u know how
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What about saturday night?
anybody care to be the host?
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I got this from internet.
Hope this can solve my problem.

- increase the deadzone

- increase the speed sensitivity setting (which deceases the steering sensitivity at high speeds)

- decrease ur steering lock in setup

- decrease the steering axis sensitivity

Tried so hard to break 1:22 at Catalunya, so far no luck.
Maybe need to change setup.
A lot of stuffs were in the car setup shakehead.gif
Only know the downforce tools tongue.gif



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That is only usefull if ur using a real steering wheel. an analouge joystick just don't have the same travel as a 180 degrees steering wheel does.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 11 2006, 08:32 PM)
What about saturday night?
anybody care to be the host?
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wow...off 4 2 days n walla...lebam mate nak bace reply
guess we got more n more member rclxms.gif welcome aboard evry1
how 2 say that in jap linkin?
minna-san...dozo?

i can host it...providing the time is rite...10pm onwards that is

bout that launch control...it's not that much good...using manual n shift 2 1st gear is even better...but still using clutch is the best, u can c how quick AI starts
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 11 2006, 10:04 AM)
hey buddy...when we wanna race together lo?wanna compare who is the king of f1...haha....
i think me n jiunkei got the answer liao haha sweat.gif
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i would lik 2 play on sat but that day got f1 qualifying but suppose finish at 10pm....

n on the same day,there r FA cup final between liverpool n west ham lo...how bout evening?around 5pm?

i will b free after 2pm until 6pm...then after 12am,midnite i will b free for play all the time...haha...so,up to u all lo..
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meh... i'm a bit busy at that time. FA cup? i forgot about that. man when u don't have astro you'll forgot everything
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linkin,
you clocked 1:29 at Suzuka correct?
Care to share your car setup tongue.gif ?

I clocked 1:33...the fastest I can do...impossible to clocked 1:29.

My opinion is you used mod RH2005 correct?
That's why you're faster.
Mod RH2004 is not as fast as that.
Agree?
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Nope. RH 2004 has more grip and = faster laptimes
only now i can get my 2005 laptimes near my 2004 beacuse of the new downforce rule by the FIA that mean less downforce. My 2005 laptimes are usually 1~2 seconds slower than the 04
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My 2004 test time
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My 2005 test time
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i wont b able to join u all for few weeks, the earliest i will b joining u guys is on 27th nite coz i need to prepare for exam..let me know if there are any updates, c ya guys..
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so how's it?
got race kah last nite?
me fell asleep...missed f1 qua sad.gif
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no race lo...how bout 2nite after finish f1 race?around 10pm k?
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Hi guys,i'm glad i found you.
I have a question.Ijust downoaded the mega update but i dont know how to install it.All i have to do is just a copy/paste,or something else?
Please tell me exactly what to do because i'new with that kind of stuff and i'm really confused.
Thanks in advance and forgive me for my english.
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QUOTE(asderis @ May 14 2006, 03:37 PM)
Hi guys,i'm glad i found you.
I have a question.Ijust downoaded the mega update but i dont know how to install it.All i have to do is just a copy/paste,or something else?
Please tell me exactly what to do because i'new with that kind of stuff and i'm really confused.
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Extract it into a folder.
Then find the application file, double click and follow its instructions to install it
in the same directory that you install your F1 C 99-02.
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hei...wats r u guys' best time at spain circuit?
i can only achieve 1.18.++ using alonso rh2005 with low fuel...
cant even achieve 1.14.++ like in real life...
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I did 1:22 using RH2004.
Last time before I know how to balance my controllers.

Low fuel does make a differ in RH2005?
It does not in RH2004.

Did you know that there's a file that can be downloaded in order to set
fast times.

Haven't done that yet tongue.gif
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low fuel maybe can improve 1-2 seconds...
but the AI 100% is so dam fast when cornering... cannot kejar at all...

cars like minardi is so slippery when cornering... cannot accelerate during corner...
i find that when cornering, renault is the best... straight line speed is mclaren...
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QUOTE(asderis @ May 14 2006, 03:37 PM)
Hi guys,i'm glad i found you.
I have a question.Ijust downoaded the mega update but i dont know how to install it.All i have to do is just a copy/paste,or something else?
Please tell me exactly what to do because i'new with that kind of stuff and i'm really confused.
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There is no installer
extract and paste into your F1C folder

F1C has a realistic Physics engine, and even a lap of fuel can do difference to ur laptime. I usually fill up my car to 12 laps of fuel and can see the time tumbling down lap after lap after lap.

anyways,

RH04 = McLaren MP4/19 - low 1.14
RH05 = McLaren MP4/20 - low 1.17
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car is relative to each other, so when you say Renault is the best cornering car for you, but for me it's the most understeering car in the game (and in real life too). McLaren seems neutral for me but Ferrari and sauber are oversteering cars

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Thanks a lot for your answers guys.

linkinstreet i did copy paste all of them but i cant play any of the 03/04/05 seasons.All i see is this...

http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled5la1.png
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled13rk.png

and then the game crashes to desktop.All the other seasons works fine.
Any solution for this?
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Just installed the game. very nice smile.gif
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HOW to change revs during game.............
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asderis = download the mod first @ http://emacf1.com and install it. The mega update patch will only update it, not include it

khjs = unless ur using manual, you can't. when using manual, u manually short shift. i suggest you use a bigger carburator (?) so that the engine will not overheat easily
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asderis = download the mod first @ http://emacf1.com and install it. The mega update patch will only update it, not include it

khjs  = unless ur using manual, you can't. when using manual, u manually short shift. i suggest you use a bigger carburator (?) so that the engine will not overheat easily
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yeah, thanx. i forgot
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oh ya...wat is braking point asst n opposite lock asst?

i tried 2 on n off this 2 things but seems lik nth different 2 my car...anyone can clarify me?
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Breaking point - When ON, the computer helped you slow down in order to take
corners. OFF, vice versa.

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I think it's impossible to do 1:27-1:30 at Suzuka.

Another interestin factor is, Ferrari is a faster car in F1C 99-02 RH2004.
max 18950 rpm.

2nd is McLaren with max 18450rpm.

I use Michael Schumacher at Suzuka and the fastest perfect lap (no cheating by skipping chicane or corners especially on the last chicane where you can flew
and manage to get 2-3 seconds faster) I've been able to set was 1:31:617

If using Kimi, 1:32.

I guess if you wanted to set the fastest time in Q if we play on9...choose Ferrari.
Anyway, in a race..concentration and focus is more important.
Just hope that cars behind us does not hit us from behind in order to overtake us.








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It's which car ur comfortable with. Like me, I hate the Ferrari. it has too much oversteer for my comfort. and I will be slower using it than the mclaren. I has been using the McLaren for 1++year now, and when ur too used to using a particular car, even if it's slow, you can make it fast.

1.29 is not impossible. the pros of this game are posting 1.27~1.28 averange here. even I cannot beat them
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linkinstreet, do you have any links to download car setup?

Just start playing '99 season last night, using Hakkinen's car. 3 races, 3 retirements: 1 accident, 2 suspension failure.... i was going fast in a corner and the suspension failed.... bye bye road.... hello wall tongue.gif

Still getting use to the game, i've played Grandprix Challenge and GP3 before. There are some parts of the track in this game that i can go alot faster in other games, but somehow i couldnt do it in this game. Probably needs more time to set up the car
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http://anime.laypark.com/Settings.zip

That's my 04, 05 and some older season setups. also, you might want to recheck the "Failure" in the option. the default is time based. which means that your car will fail according to time. change it to "Normal". this is more realistic as the car will only fail if you really damage it.

my best race was winning the Monaco GP with a damaged suspension. i was veering left all the time after that. thank god it's hard to pass in that circuit. i hold up the whole pack behind me
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then wat is opposite lock asst?
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if ur car need opposite lock to stabilise it, it will do it automatically.
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Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
Since I'm just start learning about cars.
(Thanks to Gran Turismo though..not much but at least it teaches me stuffs
about cars)

The more RPM a car has...means it's faster or accelerated quicker correct?
I see that in RH2004,Williams BMW has the highest RPM 19050.
Ferrari 18950.

How to know the max horse power (hp) of certain F1 cars?

linkin,
when you did 1:29..you use wheel correct?
Full aids?
Braking point assistant?
Manual or auto clutch & gear shift?

With Williams BMW Montoya, I manage to do 1:32 only.
Could break 1:31..that's it.
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http://www.racesimulations.com/account/act...64ad050a749bb0f

Can download setup and other stuffs here.

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linkin, thanks alot for the setup. Felt so much better driver the car smile.gif Got pole but crashed in the race while leading tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 16 2006, 02:24 PM)
Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.
Since I'm just start learning about cars.
(Thanks to Gran Turismo though..not much but at least it teaches me stuffs
about cars)

The more RPM a car has...means it's faster or accelerated quicker correct?
I see that in RH2004,Williams BMW has the highest RPM 19050.
Ferrari 18950.

How to know the max horse power (hp) of certain F1 cars?

linkin,
when you did 1:29..you use wheel correct?
Full aids?
Braking point assistant?
Manual or auto clutch & gear shift?

With Williams BMW Montoya, I manage to do 1:32 only.
Could break 1:31..that's it.
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i've always used keyboard, and GT4 sucks as a car simulator. they don't give you half the knowledge of real car racing. Barking point will slow the car down heavily during straights, don't use that. like I said, NEVER use the analouge controller, it just don't have the same travel as a real steering wheel.
Higher RPM don't mean higher speed. Monty only won 1 race in 04 if u remember. the car balance is much more important (The Williams 04 is one of the heaviest car). like I said, find a car that u're most comfortable with and you just use that.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 16 2006, 03:50 PM)
i've always used keyboard, and GT4 sucks as a car simulator. they don't give you half the knowledge of real car racing. Barking point will slow the car down heavily during straights, don't use that. like I said, NEVER use the analouge controller, it just don't have the same travel as a real steering wheel.
Higher RPM don't mean higher speed. Monty only won 1 race in 04 if u remember. the car balance is much more important (The Williams 04 is one of the heaviest car). like I said, find a car that u're most comfortable with and you just use that.
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i beg to differ, do you actually play GT4 or other GT series before? GT is a driving simulator not a racing simulator. In GT, they have license test that teaches you how to brake, how hard to brake, where to clip the apex of the corners and so on. The one thing the game didnt teach you is how to set up your car, because it is down to personal driving style.
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 16 2006, 02:46 PM)
linkin, thanks alot for the setup. Felt so much better driver the car smile.gif Got pole but crashed in the race while leading tongue.gif
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which circuit did you race?
Are you online all the time?
Wish to race with ya.

Abot GT4, dunno bout that but I learn a bit about tyres though.
As well as other components of a car.
Super Soft Tyres best for qualifying and best for 2 lap race.

Remember I mentioned my tyres totally worn off on the 3rd lap?
I bought the Soft tyres instead of the Super Soft...I won the race tongue.gif


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Maybe I'll buy a steering wheel.
Quite expensive.
Besides, a bit lazy to drive manual cars tongue.gif
Loves auto though.

Don't know how Senna could drive manual F1 car in an F1 race.
Changing gear with the right hand and racing at the same time shakehead.gif
Such expertise.
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 16 2006, 09:00 AM)
linkinstreet, do you have any links to download car setup?

Just start playing '99 season last night, using Hakkinen's car. 3 races, 3 retirements: 1 accident, 2 suspension failure.... i was going fast in a corner and the suspension failed.... bye bye road.... hello wall  tongue.gif

Still getting use to the game, i've played Grandprix Challenge and GP3 before. There are some parts of the track in this game that i can go alot faster in other games, but somehow i couldnt do it in this game. Probably needs more time to set up the car
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any other racing simulation cars out there that you would recommend?
I mean the best sellers and all.
Especially close to F1.
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I think once I bought the steering wheel and learn to drive manually,
then maybe I'll be able to do quick lap.

I recall that on certain corners it took only gear 2..but I brake until gear 1 to
took the corners...that's where I lost a lot of fraction of a seconds.

Hard lorr to learn to drive manually.
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 16 2006, 04:58 PM)
i beg to differ, do you actually play GT4 or other GT series before? GT is a driving simulator not a racing simulator. In GT, they have license test that teaches you how to brake, how hard to brake, where to clip the apex of the corners and so on. The one thing the game didnt teach you is how to set up your car, because it is down to personal driving style.
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Gran turismo. what i meant by suck is that the physics are not real. IE the tyre worn out toooo fast, even faster than real life. For example, a 24 hour lemans race car tyre would last up to 7~10 hours, depending on the type, while in the game, it lasted just 4 laps...... even the hard ones
also the aerodynamics are wrong. a real race car usually have MORE downforce at the front, so that it would not understeer.
even the brake balance seems weird. IMHO, there are many things in that game that i just don't feel right about.......

for Yusri = rFactor is a good racing sim too. also GTR and GT legends.
if you want more challenge, try Grand Prix Legends
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ May 16 2006, 11:46 AM)
then wat is opposite lock asst?
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when u brake hard into a corner, example, left corner, ur front left wheel will auto lock while ur right wheel will keep on rolling... this is to make ur car sway to the left so u can brake late into a corner...
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 16 2006, 11:15 PM)
Gran turismo. what i meant by suck is that the physics are not real. IE the tyre worn out toooo fast, even faster than real life. For example, a 24 hour lemans race car tyre would last up to 7~10 hours, depending on the type, while in the game, it lasted just 4 laps...... even the hard ones
also the aerodynamics are wrong. a real race car usually have MORE downforce at the front, so that it would not understeer.
even the brake balance seems weird. IMHO, there are many things in that game that i just don't feel right about.......

for Yusri = rFactor is a good racing sim too. also GTR and GT legends.
if you want more challenge, try Grand Prix Legends
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Any games out there that has Ayrton Senna in it?
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yusri : checkout the Console Couch board (Playstation sub forum), we have monthly GT4 lap time competition. This month is El Capitan. Nope, i'm not online all the time, but i would love to race with you guys online.I'm using my office laptop to play F1C tongue.gif so if you guys playing online on weekends, i might go to starbuck here to join you all smile.gif

If you have the money, invest in DFP by Logitech. It works both on PS2 and PC. The price may be a little bit high, but its worth it.

As for similar F1 games, on PS2 give Grand Prix Challenge a try. On PC, my other fav F1 game is GrandPrix series by Geoff Crammond.I used to play a F1 game but couldnt remember the tittle of the game; the opening intro featuring Hakkinen (CG) at A1. In this game, you can choose to play in helmet camera view laugh.gif Oh, F1 World Championship is good too, if you can find the game tongue.gif

linkin : yup, tyre wear is unrealistic in the game, but you have to understand the limitation of PS2 computing power. imho, most real racing cars tend to understeer, it lets the car turn into a corner better, but again, it is down to personal preference. Break balance can easily be changed plus you can put ballast in the car. I have dvd of the making of gt4; in that it shows how Polyphony Digital gathers data from cars.

yup, not everyone like GT, but i learn alot from playing GT and it helped me in other racing games smile.gif

Enough on GT smile.gif , i've been testing a lot at Albert Park in a McLaren. Do you guys have to lift the throttle to take the second corner at Waite?




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Maybe I'll check the El Capitan out.
Stopped a while playing GT4 coz been trying to set fastest lap in F1C.
Unless I buy a steering wheel and drove it like Ayrton Senna, then
I wil never set the fastest lap.

LYN GT4 TIME ATTACK PART 4 * 12 El Capitan <-- correct?
My fav. car at the moment is Honda NSX 97..invest a lot of
money for it.

A lot of regulations hmm?

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the best stering for this game IMHO is the logitech momo 270 degrees, i tried it at PC fair years ago (this steering is limited in Malaysia. feels like the real thing)

hmm, waite. from 7th i go to 6th and a bit of lift to tack;e the 2nd part at 5th. I can go full throttle, but sometimes I ended up like Massa there
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senna? there is the '88 mod but i don't remember where the hell i got it. and the '91 mod is in progress
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senna? there is the '88 mod but i don't remember where the hell i got it. and the '91 mod is in progress
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Is there any way to send it to me? tongue.gif
Please keep me inform ya?
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Play the game last night with DFP hooked to the laptop. Vast improvements smile.gif Now can use throttle mid corner thumbup.gif thumbup.gif Played '99 season again, but this time using a Minardi.... no 7th gear tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif First race qualified 12th thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

btw, are guys are playing what season online?
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04 for many of these guys
05 for me
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just installed the F1 mega update pack...wow..they really did a great job and those older cars really quite slow compared to new ones but the 94 Mclaren engine sounds great..so smooth..but quite large space needed...
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how bout if we race tonight?at 9pm or 10pm?wat circuit u all wan?
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how bout if we race tonight?at 9pm or 10pm?wat circuit u all wan?
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firstly, for easier contact, i think we shld all contact by YM as previously i did suggested b4..anyhow, here is my ym id: jiunkei_46

i cant play til next weekend as i need to prepare for my exams so earliest for me to join u guys would b next sat or sun
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just installed the F1 mega update pack...wow..they really did a great job and those older cars really quite slow compared to new ones but the 94 Mclaren engine sounds great..so smooth..but quite large space needed...
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kei,
the F1 mega update...can I use it while I'm currently running RH2004?
Any Senna in it?

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Kei,
you said that cars in the 94 mod is slower.
I think they used the same type of car in the 94 F1.
Cars then were slower than now right?
Now more computerized and electronics.
Back then still using the right hand to change gear.
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Kei,
you said that cars in the 94 mod is slower.
I think they used the same type of car in the 94 F1.
Cars then were slower than now right?
Now more computerized and electronics.
Back then still using the right hand to change gear.
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what do you mean by that?
of course it's slower, BHP is lower and it's still not as grippy as it is now.
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what do you mean by that?
of course it's slower, BHP is lower and it's still not as grippy as it is now.
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Confirmed..it is slower than now.
Yes...not as grippy as now, but Schumi can never keep up with Senna.
People been talking about how incredible Schumi was in Q.
Back then with Senna, he outshined Schumi biggrin.gif
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the mega updates as wut linkin said we must install our RH04 n 05 then only install the mega update..
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 21 2006, 02:18 AM)
Confirmed..it is slower than now.
Yes...not as grippy as now, but Schumi can never keep up with Senna.
People been talking about how incredible Schumi was in Q.
Back then with Senna, he outshined Schumi  biggrin.gif
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they were in different generation. Senna was in F1 for years before schummi came. that's why we will never knew how the 2 will fare in a straight fight.
in other news, I managed to get my lap times in 2005 down to 94 season. it seems that i only can do that in race condition tongue.gif
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they were in different generation. Senna was in F1 for years before schummi came. that's why we will never knew how the 2 will fare in a straight fight.
in other news, I managed to get my lap times in 2005 down to 94 season. it seems that i only can do that in race condition tongue.gif
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Yup, we'll never know but both of them we can say gifted racer.
If Schumi can fit in current type of F1...so will Senna.
Schumi's 37 now...I think Senna also can drive when he's 37..but that's
1997 (if he's still alive) or maybe he did what Mika has done which is when
Mika see that it's hard to keep up with Schumi...he retired from F1.

Back then, they drive an F1 car manually, changing gear with the right hand
(Senna) and driving with the left hand. Such expertise.
Watched a video of Senna driving a Honda NSX and they put cameras
focusing on his left hand gear shifting as well as both he's feet on the clutch,
brakes and pedal.
Such expertise...I never done that.
But I think to get a fast lap times in F1C, I need to master that.
Lost a lot fraction of seconds in certain corners when using automatic gear shifting.
F1 is not as easy as I thought.
Got my P licence with a manual Kancil car.
HATED IT!! tongue.gif
So annoying when you need to balance the clutch and the 1st gear in order to
move the car.
Prefer auto cars.
But if you wanted to be a real life racer in the future (as for me, too old already), you master manual gear shifting.


Guys, I'm using RH2004..if I install the RH2005 and the mega update,
can I still play online with you guys?
Or is it that you guys has two (2) computers with different RH each? tongue.gif

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u can just install any update packs together and all will be visible in the selection..means u can choose to play any season anytime
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u can just install any update packs together and all will be visible in the selection..means u can choose to play any season anytime
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I see.
So no reliability issues? hehe...F1 language tongue.gif
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no prob at all...i think if u need more info on those add-ons, it would be wiser to as linkin as he has many addons to his F1 challenge...and he has been using it for long time
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ May 22 2006, 08:51 AM)
Yup, we'll never know but both of them we can say gifted racer.
If Schumi can fit in current type of F1...so will Senna.
Schumi's 37 now...I think Senna also can drive when he's 37..but that's
1997 (if he's still alive) or maybe he did what Mika has done which is when
Mika see that it's hard to keep up with Schumi...he retired from F1.

Back then, they drive an F1 car manually, changing gear with the right hand
(Senna) and driving with the left hand. Such expertise.
Watched a video of Senna driving a Honda NSX and they put cameras
focusing on his left hand gear shifting as well as both he's feet on the clutch,
brakes and pedal.
Such expertise...I never done that.
But I think to get a fast lap times in F1C, I need to master that.
Lost a lot fraction of seconds in certain corners when using automatic gear shifting.
F1 is not as easy as I thought.
Got my P licence with a manual Kancil car.
HATED IT!!  tongue.gif
So annoying when you need to balance the clutch and the 1st gear in order to
move the car.
Prefer auto cars.
But if you wanted to be a real life racer in the future (as for me, too old already), you master manual gear shifting.
Guys, I'm using RH2004..if I install the RH2005 and the mega update,
can I still play online with you guys?
Or is it that you guys has two (2) computers with different RH each?  tongue.gif
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where can download the sanna video?
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where can download the sanna video?
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Type "Senna video" (without the "") at Yahoo.
then download biggrin.gif
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i realised that after installing the mega update, the car seems to be tougher to drive..previously when using just RH04 or 05, the car is much much easier to drive as there are more grips but after using mega update, using the same settings, the car felt differently..
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i'll b coming home this weekend..anybody up 4 fun race?
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i'll b coming home this weekend..anybody up 4 fun race?
really miss my keyboard sad.gif
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Me...me tongue.gif
You decide which circuit.

Can't imagine how do you guys play using keyboard.
Seems so difficult.
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 26 2006, 09:06 AM)
i realised that after installing the mega update, the car seems to be tougher to drive..previously when using just RH04 or 05, the car is much much easier to drive as there are more grips but after using mega update, using the same settings, the car felt differently..
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really? didn't noticed that. too much time have been spent with 05's lack of grip that i really feel the 04 has toooo much grip when racing with u guys last time
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Guys, recently formatted my hard drive,so lost all the RH2004 mods.
Can you guys list for me all the things I need to download in order to play?
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install the F1 challenge, dl the RH04 n RH 05 basepack and track pack then also those hotfix..there u go...
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http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/ga...wnload2004.html

Guys, is it me or the connection to the web site or Streamyx really really suxx...
big time mad.gif


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http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/ga...wnload2004.html

Seems like forever to download it.
Server always busy.

Any other way guys?
Normally it's never like this.
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The F1 boom has come again. wait a couple of days. anyways, why don't you install it on a different HDD so that even if u reformat ur HDD, the game will still be in ur PC
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The F1 boom has come again. wait a couple of days. anyways, why don't you install it on a different HDD so that even if u reformat ur HDD, the game will still be in ur PC
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F1 boom? Meaning busy server huh?
All of the sudden everybody's got F1 fever.

I've completely deleted all of the RH2004 files.
Have to wait for the server to be ok again sad.gif
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my F1 challenge got prob, giving me error when i run the program..never happened b4..now cant play..so sad..
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jiunkei what happen?
if it crashes to desktop before going into the game itself, try deleting your profile folder (save the setups first)
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it just cant enter the game..giving me error saying that F! challenge has encountered a prob and needs to close...which one is the profile folder?which files need to back up?
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urF1CInstall/Save/urname
delete that except the folder named setup
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inside there isnt any folder named setup wor..there is a folder under my name and another folder which i think i added some other patch that gives that folder named Ayrton Senna..then others are just svm file and few cfg files
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SVM files are the setup files. sabe that
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when the league will start? how 2 join the league? n wat i need 2 install n update in order to join the games?.. ^^

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league will start when confirmed who want to join.
now the problem is
1 - I don't have broadband yet
2 - Jiunkei is still in exam mode
3 - Hiwatari is missing

also youneed RH04 and RH 05
get it at http://emacf1.com
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my exam dah habis d...now can play but then that prob occur..

just tried to delete the folder under my name the prob still there..cant get into the game.. cry.gif

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erm.. f1 fans here !
but can teach me how to dl those file to play the game ?
coz i just playing f1 manger 99-00 only !
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Suddently http://emacf1.com is ok again biggrin.gif
Downloaded this two at the moment for RH2004.


2004rh_4_f1c99-02_basepack_v1.05
2004rh_4_f1c99-02_expansionpack_v1.05

Kei,
maybe too much update file?
That's why corrupted?

Have you tried playing other games?
If yes, then the F1 C on your PC has problems.
If not, maybe your display card driver has problem.

Try updating your display card driver?

Normally those stuff.

Or try uninstall everything and install F1 C all over again.

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make a fresh install of F1C. seems that it cannot be repaired
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wut im afraid is that after the fresh installation the prob still exist which happens to my PES 5..dunno wut happened...
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reforrmate windows?
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problem solved, now we can start to play..hehe...i change my graphic driver then can play d..credits to yusri1426..thanks..
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A lot of viruses this days.
My hard disk has 2 partition.
I always install games on the D: directory just in case my C: is corrupted.
If it does, formatted it...install windows again.

Games from D: still safe.
Just copy the shortcut of the application of the game...presto

I've accidently found he old RH2004 that I've saved before.
Downloaded on 16 Mei 2006

2005rh_4_f1c99-02_base_v1.0d (67MB)
2005rh_4_f1c99-02_trackpack_v1.0a (34MB)

This one on 1st June 2006

2004rh_4_f1c99-02_basepack_v1.05 (101MB)
2004rh_4_f1c99-02_expansionpack_v1.05 (75MB)
2004RH_Trackpack_4 F1C99-02_v1.05 (67.2 MB]

Different huh?
New ones uploaded is it?




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nah, you jut downloaded the old ones tongue.gif
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nah, you jut downloaded the old ones tongue.gif
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But, look at the date..I think it's a new ones.
At least for base and trackpack.
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look at the version number
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bila want to have some race??kai hitawari will be around during weekend rite??
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just now try RH2004 with ferari at sepang curcuit, for me, this patch it quite similar to EA F1 2002. easy to handling t car, but of cos, car setup s most important part in F1, cos different people different driving technique. smile.gif

edited: but raining track s very very very hard 2 handle... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2006, 11:37 PM)
league will start when confirmed who want to join.
now the problem is
1 - I don't have broadband yet
2 - Jiunkei is still in exam mode
3 - Hiwatari is missing
no lah...i'm not missing
still following u guys
jz that life in matriks is cry.gif 1 yr only so not much free time...need 2 push lil bit harder than during spm sweat.gif
mayb can hv a race during weekend?i'll b home evry 2 weeks if not 'so' bz
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bila want to have some race??kai hitawari will be around during weekend rite??

hoh?how'd u know 'my' full name? shocking.gif yep...can play 2nite n 2molo nite icon_rolleyes.gif but 4 those who used 2 race w/ me...dun b shocked 2 find 1 funny driver on the track...long time no play liao doh.gif

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usually i create, others join
can hv ur contact?YM or MSN...ez-er 2 communicate icon_rolleyes.gif
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Streamyx been crap la since Friday.
Or is it my modem kong?
PPP lights off.
See my posting in Hardware (ADSL Aztech Router...)
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i think that day most ppl got prob with streamyx,.
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Ok already.
Bila la nak race? tongue.gif
World Cup next week...no race huh tongue.gif
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Wow,here got so many F1 challenge player,heres the mclaren car livery that i just ,wonder you all hav it or not,but,this is not an complete version
user posted image

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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 5 2006, 12:28 AM)
Wow,here got so many F1 challenge player,heres the mclaren car livery that i just ,wonder you all hav it or not,but,this is not an complete version
user posted image
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yen,
the image does not appear la.
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he messed up the coding
user posted image

and honestly, that looks like crap
Look at this version.
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Now that's a McLaren

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that one is FLY EMIRATE version mp-17 tongue.gif,wonder when we can hav a race?
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that one is FLY EMIRATE version mp-17 tongue.gif,wonder when we can hav a race?
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I doubt that.
World Cup fever already tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 5 2006, 05:04 PM)
that one is FLY EMIRATE version mp-17 tongue.gif,wonder when we can hav a race?
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just fix a date, time n track, n contact each other tru ym.. tongue.gif
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Dun forget me also ... Contact me thru msn ... taylorling86 at msn dot com . Give me date and time . Yea ..... ANyway , u all play using hamachi isn't ?

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is weekdays alrite for u guys?or weekend?wut time u guys prefer..

for me im alrite either weekdays or weekend, time i would prefer not too late, mayb around 10pm like dat..
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Give us the time and we will try to compensate with it . If really cannot then next round lo ... Anyway , really play 2004 ah ... Can't play 2005 meh ? Latest wo ....
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many ppl don't have the 05 setup yet, and were using the Online server, not hamachi.
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jun 5 2006, 09:54 PM)
is weekdays alrite for u guys?or weekend?wut time u guys prefer..

for me im alrite either weekdays or weekend, time i would prefer not too late, mayb around 10pm like dat..
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i prefer weekend, how bout saturday 10pm? n thread starter will post date, time n track for racing at first post. smile.gif

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i'll be home in kelantan this weekend so i will have a net connection (albeit a slow dial up.)
so how about we race friday night?
Also, some has suggested we use only YM to communicate, as some are using MSN for FIFA league. what do you guys think?

My suggestion
Time = 11PM onwards
Server = Kai HIwatari
Track = VOTE!!! I give u guys untill tomorrow night
Carset - RH04

Please install the addon trackpack and expansion pack as the track length differ from the base pack. I don't want ppl to cry foul when some use shorter line to race
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 5 2006, 11:51 PM)
i'll be home in kelantan this weekend so i will have a net connection (albeit a slow dial up.)
so how about we race friday night?
Also, some has suggested we use only YM to communicate, as some are using MSN for FIFA league. what do you guys think?

My suggestion
Time = 11PM onwards
Server = Kai HIwatari
Track = VOTE!!! I give u guys untill tomorrow night
Carset - RH04

Please install the addon trackpack and expansion pack as the track length differ from the base pack. I don't want ppl to cry foul when some use shorter line to race
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Will any of these be alright?

2005rh_4_f1c99-02_trackpack_v1.0a
2004rh_4_f1c99-02_basepack_v1.05
2004rh_4_f1c99-02_expansionpack_v1.05
2005rh_4_f1c99-02_base_v1.0d

I'm more of a follower.
Any track would be fine...F1 drivers won't worry about track tongue.gif


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dude. there are 2 2005RH included there.
the 2004RH version are the latest so it is okay
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just to make sure

Install
1 = Base
2 = Expansion
3 = Trackpack

In that order
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vote for monaco,aids allowed?
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hi guys ! im very into F1 .. but i couldnt find the full playable game for F1C .. anyone can tell me how to go about it .. where to download the game and the patches ? wana join u guys play aso leh .. ehe >.<
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 6 2006, 12:10 AM)
just to make sure

Install
1 = Base
2 = Expansion
3 = Trackpack

In that order
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Noted.

QUOTE(kyoko08 @ Jun 6 2006, 01:15 AM)
hi guys ! im very into F1 .. but i couldnt find the full playable game for F1C .. anyone can tell me how to go about it .. where to download the game and the patches ? wana join u guys play aso leh .. ehe >.<
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Buy the game at Low Yatt.
Search around...there are 2 shops that I know still selling it.
Then download the patches here:

http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/ga...wnload2004.html

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Noted.
Buy the game at Low Yatt.
Search around...there are 2 shops that I know still selling it.
Then download the patches here:

http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/ga...wnload2004.html
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now selling how much?
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Cough *RM5* Cough
Note, *Lowyat* games are not supposed to be openly discussed, huhuhu tongue.gif
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Cough *RM5* Cough
Note, *Lowyat* games are not supposed to be openly discussed, huhuhu tongue.gif
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agreed.
Might get a Low Yatt "10 seconds penalty" tongue.gif
Look at me...got 10 already...all because mentioning piracy biggrin.gif
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How to get rid of the 10 huh?
Anybody know?


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you can't. It's a permanent record
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How to get rid of the 10 huh?
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you can't. It's a permanent record
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nop,i will disappear after half year laugh.gif as i read in feedback and helpdesk subforum
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vote for monaco,aids allowed?
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Hmm, monaco? I'll try and upload the updated version of that track. the one where the pits are on the inside
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
Hmm, monaco? I'll try and upload the updated version of that track. the one where the pits are on the inside
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wow... cool... thx linkinstreet. I suggest use latest monaco track.. tongue.gif
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soli..double post..

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Preview of the new track
http://laypark.com/shared/Monaco.avi
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The monaco track
http://laypark.com/shared/Monacao05.zip

Unzip it in ur F1C main directory

to make it work in the game, go to
UrF1CDir/SeasonData/Circuits/Monaco/2005CTDP_monaco/

find the file ending with *.gdb and open it with notepad
find the line "filter properties= " and add 2004RH at the end
*eg* Filter Properties= 2005RH, 2006RH 2004RH<-- add at the end

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 6 2006, 08:27 AM)
you can't. It's a permanent record
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What's OT?
40 warning points?
Why they gave you 40/


QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 6 2006, 12:45 PM)
Hmm, monaco? I'll try and upload the updated version of that track. the one where the pits are on the inside
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I've downloaded all the track update from the web site 1.01-1.05


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check the post above dude. this is the CTDP version of the track which is not included in the RH mod. the most realistic Monaco track there is and if we're going to race on it, everyone has to download it so that the game will not crash

*OT* - OT is off topic

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You got it from other web site besides EMACF1?

Honestly, Monaco not my fav. circuit....tight corners...less speed.
But hey...bring it on tongue.gif
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Oooo...laypark.com
Your own web site.

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hi guys, new player here. Seems interesting...but I'm confused...what game you all use? F1 Challenge 99-02? PC or PS2 ver?
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hi guys, new player here. Seems interesting...but I'm confused...what game you all use? F1 Challenge 99-02? PC or PS2 ver?
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we use pc version... n go download latest patch--> RH 2004


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I cant join monaco race. I already download CTDP monaco track n play it, even i set graphic to low, when i reach some area, it laggy..
Nevermind, waiting for next race.. biggrin.gif
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After installing all RH2004 base and track from EMACF1, after selecting a circuit...
crash back to dekstop.

Guys, what exactly did you guys installed?
Can be specific?
expansionpack, base and track...what version?

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Go here to download the mega update. It will update the game and also add the season of '94-'05 to the game
http://raulongo.iespana.es/F1MEGA.HTM
Next race this friday. go here for info
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=269318&st=272#

Racers need to download the New Monaco track to race here (included with tutorial)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...=269318&st=280#
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Let say I've installed F1C 99-02.
Just installed the megaupdate, then got all I need?
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Let say I've installed F1C 99-02.
Just installed the megaupdate, then got all I need?
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monaco track update?


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I cant join monaco race. I already download CTDP monaco track n play it, even i set graphic to low, when i reach some area, it laggy..
Nevermind, waiting for next race.. biggrin.gif
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1)try to updates all your driver,including graphic card and chipset driver
2)defragmenting your hdd,
3)make sure at least 10gb free space on your main partition
hope its help
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1)try to updates all your driver,including graphic card and chipset driver
2)defragmenting your hdd,
3)make sure at least 10gb free space on your main partition
hope its help
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1.my one is old GC.. blush.gif
2.just format my pc 2 day ago.
3.meet the requirement
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QUOTE(yusri1426 @ Jun 6 2006, 05:40 PM)
After installing all RH2004 base and track from EMACF1, after selecting a circuit...
crash back to dekstop.

Guys, what exactly did you guys installed?
Can be specific?
expansionpack, base and track...what version?
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For me, i folllow this sequence,
1. 2004rh_4_f1c99-02_basepack_v1.05
2. 2004rh_4_f1c99-02_expansionpack_v1.05
3. 2004rh_4_f1c99-02_track-pack_v1.05
4. CDTP monaco track.
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god damn,my steering spoil,can we change track ?spain?cause previous and previous of race this seasons.....
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we still haven set a time yet..and also the track?
mayb the track we just follow the sequence in the game, each week we go different track, so for 04, the 1st one is Melbourne, Australia..
another thing, as linkin' said, we shld really contact via YM as it will be much easier, takkan we keep on check for new post all the time?Fri, 10pm onwards would be nice, as race starts from 10.30pm?means 10 til 10.30 can practice or mayb wait til all gathered..
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if i din dl the monaco track,can i race?coz my f1 oso hv monaco liao lo...hehe
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god damn,my steering spoil,can we change track ?spain?cause previous and previous of race this seasons.....
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If change to spain track, then i want join biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jun 6 2006, 09:51 PM)
we still haven set a time yet..and also the track?
mayb the track we just follow the sequence in the game, each week we go different track, so for 04, the 1st one is Melbourne, Australia..
another thing, as linkin' said, we shld really contact via YM as it will be much easier, takkan we keep on check for new post all the time?Fri, 10pm onwards would be nice, as race starts from 10.30pm?means 10 til 10.30 can practice or mayb wait til all gathered..

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Or we follow real world F1 season, mean this friday race is British GP tongue.gif

Ya. I agree. gather at 10.30pm at yahoo messenger.

QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 6 2006, 10:06 PM)
if i din dl the monaco track,can i race?coz my f1 oso hv monaco liao lo...hehe
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Latest monaco track is shorter and IMHO, its easier to drive.

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we need to use the same track so that
1-there will be no case of mismatch
2-no case of track not exist

anyways, yusri, you crash to desktop for every track issit?
no need for megaupdate as we won't be using that for online
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jun 6 2006, 09:51 PM)
we still haven set a time yet..and also the track?
mayb the track we just follow the sequence in the game, each week we go different track, so for 04, the 1st one is Melbourne, Australia..
another thing, as linkin' said, we shld really contact via YM as it will be much easier, takkan we keep on check for new post all the time?Fri, 10pm onwards would be nice, as race starts from 10.30pm?means 10 til 10.30 can practice or mayb wait til all gathered..
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Yeah...that's what I want to hear rclxms.gif

linkin and jiunkei, I try adding you guys on my YM but the 'Add request still pending'



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y not msn lo?i dun hv YM...poor me...but i hv hiwatari contact in msn...he will create server rite?need any password?
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y not msn lo?i dun hv YM...poor me...but i hv hiwatari contact in msn...he will create server rite?need any password?
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erm.. how bout download 1 more instant messenger, YM. cos it easy to communicate and pass latest information to each other.

1 problem here.. YM o MSN?? For me, i got both. ^^ how bout u guy?

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I suggest we put a permanent post regarding what we need to install in order
to play it online without any problems.

So, that easy for new drivers to know what they need to have.
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i have the patch CD already .. frm my sources > ... but its just the patch .. i didnt knw where to get the game so that i can patch it .. haha ..

yenson PM-ed me the useful link already .. im curently at home ler .. so cant game yet (nanti dad nag nag nag) wait till i go back to melaka .. then i go figure out how to join u guys .. cant wait !! ehehe
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Jun 6 2006, 03:15 PM)
we use pc version... n go download latest patch--> RH 2004
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bro...the link doesn't work... blush.gif
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add me too kyoko_me ..
btw .. im from MMU melaka .. anyone else from there as well ? (=
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Tried the new Monaco circuit.
Kinda nice.

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for those who posted their YM id here, i have added u to my list..if anyone needs to add me to their list, my id is jiunkei_46
hope that all can use YM to keep in touch..
as for game requirement and patches so that all of us are having the same thing, i think that gotta need linkin's help and post it at the first page..
agree that we follow the current race track which means that this week we play Silverstone..
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jun 7 2006, 01:20 PM)
for those who posted their YM id here, i have added u to my list..if anyone needs to add me to their list, my id is jiunkei_46
hope that all can use YM to keep in touch..
as for game requirement and patches so that all of us are having the same thing, i think that gotta need linkin's help and post it at the first page..
agree that we follow the current race track which means that this week we play Silverstone..
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We get to feel it when we watch the race this weekend.
Agree say 'Ai..."
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 6 2006, 01:22 PM)
The monaco track
http://laypark.com/shared/Monacao05.zip

Unzip it in ur F1C main directory

to make it work in the game, go to
UrF1CDir/SeasonData/Circuits/Monaco/2005CTDP_monaco/

find the file ending with *.gdb and open it with notepad
find the line "filter properties= " and add 2004RH at the end
*eg* Filter Properties= 2005RH, 2006RH 2004RH<-- add at the end
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I followed the instructions as above...edit the *.gdb file in the 2005CTDP_monaco folder
correct?

*eg* Filter Properties= 2005RH, 2006RH, 2004RH (case sensitive)

Is the circuit similar to the monaco.avi that you've posted before the Monaco GP?
If yes..then I think I did it wrongly.

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just tried the monaco track that linkin provide, better than the one that come with RH patch..the road is wider and the corner are not so tight but the tunnel seems to be narrower..
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most of you guys are MMU students right?
Both my sis were too.

One of them worked under practical at LY Plaza.
Low pay she said.
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bro...the link doesn't work... blush.gif
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Tried Silverstone.
Nice track but difficult to budget corners since there's a different racing line.
I guess needs more practice.
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So,Friday nite, silverstone?
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Tried Silverstone.
Nice track but difficult to budget corners since there's a different racing line.
I guess needs more practice.
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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Jun 7 2006, 04:54 PM)
So,Friday nite, silverstone?
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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 7 2006, 05:00 PM)
current fastest lap?
yup, i think so
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Slow la...1:20's
Still not familiar with the track yet.

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 7 2006, 06:50 PM)
wanted to join, but, ermm, keyboard using here..sigh
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I've updated the info & rules. check the 1st post
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many using keyboard here..great racer like linkinstreet also using keyboard n he can get great lap times..
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oh, means you guys are playing with driving aids? playing with keyboard and traction control off really kills laugh.gif hmmm, about the monaco track, using the rh2005 track, i get 1:18:9xx
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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 7 2006, 11:24 PM)
oh, means you guys are playing with driving aids? playing with keyboard and traction control off really kills laugh.gif hmmm, about the monaco track, using the rh2005 track, i get 1:18:9xx
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1:18 too...better setup and memorizing the track...get faster lap times.

Better try Silverstone too...Jiunkei suggest we race there this weekend.
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Others also using keyboard...still can do fast laps.
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Monaco 1:16
Silverstone 1:23

Slow la.
Just a guidance and a spirit enhance for you guys to get faster laps.

Silverstone's a bit confusing because don't know which racing line to choose.
At Club and Abbey.
On the right side before we reach those corners there's an arrow sign.
We only took those corners after the sign right? Not before that.



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silverstone after 26 laps, fastest time s 1.20.752.
have to know where s the braking point.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 8 2006, 12:44 AM)
1:18 too...better setup and memorizing the track...get faster lap times.

Better try Silverstone too...Jiunkei suggest we race there this weekend.
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Ermm. Got 1:17:994 yesterday. Suddenly 1 second quicker blink.gif Oh, silverstone? nice track, my time is 1:20:9xx. Again, I got this due to luck. I cant make the same result anymore laugh.gif Well, I think its really hard to get consistent lap times without a wheel huh?
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you can acheive faster lap time if you can manage not to brake from the start/finish line all the way to the Club chicane.
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1:17?
Wow.
Any of guys know how take a snapshot while racing or cruising?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 8 2006, 01:29 PM)
you can acheive faster lap time if you can manage not to brake from the start/finish line all the way to the Club chicane.
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downshift? laugh.gif but i think it will be slower
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Nope, downshifting is faster as you don't have to wait for the engine to rev up again.
anyways use F12 to take screenies
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Nope, downshifting is faster as you don't have to wait for the engine to rev up again.
anyways use F12 to take screenies
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1:21.6

That's the fastest I guess.


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1:21.6

That's the fastest I guess.
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Club

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Which corner?
Right or left?


Abbey

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Which corner?
Right or left?

The racing line confused me.
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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 8 2006, 03:17 PM)
for your fastest lap?
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Slow...you guys did 1:17 sweat.gif
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Yeah.
Slow...you guys did 1:17  sweat.gif
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Rule of the thumb, when ur going tu turn left, be ready on the right. Ur too on the middle IMHO
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 8 2006, 04:40 PM)
Rule of the thumb, when ur going tu turn left, be ready on the right. Ur too on the middle IMHO
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I know.
So, confirm then the corner on the right we should took?
Both Club and Abbey?
After the arror sign?


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Finally broke the 1:20...1:20.7xx
Could get 1:19 if not because of radiator problem.

Why huh?
On the tp right of the screen there's certain icon such as fuel and a box (radiator)
I think?
How to solve this?


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use bigger radiator
if ur not certain which line to take, turn on the flag rules. then you will know as the lap will not count if u use the wrong line

club Chicane
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notice the shortcut not used

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 8 2006, 09:52 AM)
Ermm. Got 1:17:994 yesterday. Suddenly 1 second quicker blink.gif Oh, silverstone? nice track, my time is 1:20:9xx. Again, I got this due to luck. I cant make the same result anymore laugh.gif Well, I think its really hard to get consistent lap times without a wheel huh?
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Ooo..1:17 at Monaco?
I thought Silverstone.

I guess I broke your time..I did 1:20:796 biggrin.gif

It's good though when we compare times.
We try hard to do fast times (felt quite down when see you did 1:17...thought that was at Silverstone)

I use car setup downloaded from web site.
But it's all up to your driving style.

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 8 2006, 04:58 PM)
use bigger radiator
if ur not certain which line to take, turn on the flag rules. then you will know as the lap will not count if u use the wrong line

club Chicane
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Abbey
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notice the shortcut not used
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Thanks.

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Use Ferrari or Williams..they have higher RPM tongue.gif
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you can get 1:1x at silverstone easily if u know where the correct line is and where NOT to brake
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 8 2006, 05:04 PM)
you can get 1:1x at silverstone easily if u know where the correct line is and where NOT to brake
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Thanks.
Tried racing for a while.
25% = 15 laps
Got pole with 1:22.
2nd was Jenson with 1:29 tongue.gif

I qualify with 3 laps of fuel.
When racing..still using balance of the fuel during qualifying.

Any advice for this?
After 2 laps...leading jenson by 6 seconds...but my fuel was only for 3 laps tongue.gif

Where ya to change radiators in the setup?

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Thanks.
Tried racing for a while.
25% = 15 laps
Got pole with 1:22.
2nd was Jenson with 1:29  tongue.gif

I qualify with 3 laps of fuel.
When racing..still using balance of the fuel during qualifying.

Any advice for this?
After 2 laps...leading jenson by 6 seconds...but my fuel was only for 3 laps  tongue.gif

Where ya to change radiators in the setup?
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you can change the fuel load before the race start wat? icon_rolleyes.gif

chose car setup/advanced,2nd or 3rd tape in the left bottom=radiators



raikkonen,you try to set AI aggressive to 100% sure you improve a lot laugh.gif 1:22=starting from back of the grid yawn.gif

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go to advanced setup and search like crazy for Radiator size.

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alamak. mclaren team got 2 players edi sad.gif eh using 2004 cars? why not 2005?

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Much user friendly than the 05 car. Even i have problem setting up the 05 car, very fishtail during kerb taking.....
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Much user friendly than the 05 car. Even i have problem setting up the 05 car, very fishtail during kerb taking.....
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Yeah. It's kinda hard to control at first, but after playing it for a while, I got used to 2005 cars already. Now playing back 2004, the car feels like it has alot of grip. But of course the lap times looked much more better with 2004. Eh btw, using 2004 car, wats the best time u guys got for silverstone? I got 1:18:5xx using the rh2004 preset and a ferrari

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I got the same lap time using the 05 car as the engine are faster, but need to keep the car really on the edge
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I got the same lap time using the 05 car as the engine are faster, but need to keep the car really on the edge
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Yeah. It's kinda crazy especially in sepang's s-curve area (4th or 5th turn i think). Dang, i always lose it there in 05

Edit: Eh linkin, I got your setups on page 6. Which setup did u use for monaco 04?

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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 8 2006, 05:23 PM)
you can change the fuel load before the race start wat? icon_rolleyes.gif

chose car setup/advanced,2nd or 3rd tape in the left bottom=radiators
raikkonen,you try to set AI aggressive to 100% sure you improve a lot laugh.gif 1:22=starting from back of the grid yawn.gif
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17 actually tongue.gif
Did 1:19 with Schumi's Ferrari.
Pole was 1:12..does not make sense..Kimi did 1:18:233 on 2004.



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Yo Linkin, nice setup. My monaco time is down by 2 seconds. Now in the mid 1:15's
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my r24 engine always blew up when i am on my 2-3lap,how to solve the problem?
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use larger radiator...
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use larger radiator...
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HOW LARGE?
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3~5
don't push the car too much
That monaco was so good that i can even manage a 1:12 there
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HOW LARGE?
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Ermm..Usually I put it at 4. No more overheats. Well for me at least tongue.gif
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Finally did 1:18:807 at Silevrstone.
Sector 1 - 25.500
That's the fast I can do.
I bet you guys can go faster.


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1:18:010

I bet you guys did 1:17
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linkin,
saw your monaco.avi
loves the sound of that McLaren 2005..smooth.

I see that when the car turns..it turned smoothly not rapidly.
Care to share the setup for it?
My turning suxx.
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look at page 6. i posted a link there a while ago
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i just watched the monaco video. At the end there crash rite? laugh.gif
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1:18:010

I bet you guys did 1:17
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Questions:

1. For 15 laps (25%) race...how many radioators should we take (including qualifying)?
2. Maximum qualifying is 3 laps right? How to know we meet the limit?

Hope there's no car in front disturbing lap times.
But do not worry, no Fisi storming Villeneuve garage drama tongue.gif
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1:16:951

Hope doing it in Q.
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Questions:

1. For 15 laps (25%) race...how many radioators should we take (including qualifying)?
2. Maximum qualifying is 3 laps right? How to know we meet the limit?

Hope there's no car in front disturbing lap times.
But do not worry, no Fisi storming Villeneuve garage drama  tongue.gif
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i take quantityx4 sizex4,my engine blew in last lap rclxub.gif
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anyone done 100%race before?
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1.Qualiying is safe to use 1, as in this game it can't emulate the 1 engine per weekend rule. thus you'll be using a fresh engine in the race.
2. You're lap time will automatically be deleted as the game will only count the 1st 3 laps. all the other laps more than that will be deemed illegal. try doing it on ur own. you'll find that this is true.
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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 9 2006, 03:46 PM)
anyone done 100%race before?
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Edison and I have
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 9 2006, 03:48 PM)
1.Qualiying is safe to use 1, as in this game it can't emulate the 1 engine per weekend rule. thus you'll be using a fresh engine in the race.
2. You're lap time will automatically be deleted as the game will only count the 1st 3 laps. all the other laps more than that will be deemed illegal. try doing it on ur own. you'll find that this is true.
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In the car setup 'Mechanical and Areo' section, there's this section 'Radiator Taken'
I put 5.
For qualifying and race I put 5.
Once happen..on the end of the 2nd lap...a few yards from Star/Finish line...my car slow
down.
Before that there's this radiator icon on top right corner of the screen (team radio
talk about something...can't hear it..engine to loud)

I suggest use Flag Rule so that no one cheat corners tongue.gif

So, drivers can only do three qualifying lap times.
Better not screw up...otherwise it's the back of the grid tongue.gif

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Nice McLaren linkin.
You're gonna use that tonight?
Beautiful car.
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http://www.racesimulations.com/F1C/downloads/246.html

Download the LulaHakkinen car setup.
Then adjust the setup of the car to suit your driving styles.
Maybe you guys can do 1:10.

I use that...got 1:16:951
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http://www.racesimulations.com/F1C/downloads/246.html

Download the LulaHakkinen car setup.
Then adjust the setup of the car to suit your driving styles.
Maybe you guys can do 1:10.

I use that...got 1:16:951
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 9 2006, 04:13 PM)
http://www.racesimulations.com/F1C/downloads/246.html

Download the LulaHakkinen car setup.
Then adjust the setup of the car to suit your driving styles.
Maybe you guys can do 1:10.

I use that...got 1:16:951
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K thanks for the setup. I used linkin's silverstone 04 and got 1:17:3xx. Gonna see how much this can improve my lap times thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 9 2006, 05:35 PM)
K thanks for the setup. I used linkin's silverstone 04 and got 1:17:3xx. Gonna see how much this can improve my lap times thumbup.gif
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linkin was right...no brakes from Start/Finish line till Stowe (just off the throttle until
pass the corners)
Trial and error.

On the car setup...full grip and half between Acceleration and Balance.
A.k.a 331kph.

Speed 331kph
Acceration 2.97 I think.

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Launch control.

Press both LC and Throttle before the red light goes off right?
Once the red lights off...keep pressing Throttle and release ONLY the LC.

I try this during race against AI..they still passed me even I'm on pole sad.gif



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well, the 04 has no launch control. you need to use clutch to make a really good start. but then, you need manual gears.

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Hmmm, latest timing is 1:16:695 with the same setting. Havent try the one given by Raikkonen. Eh, btw u guys talking about LC? Damn, i havent use before laugh.gif I just let it start itself by holding the throttle key
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LC gives better start as the car is already revving
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 9 2006, 08:22 PM)
LC gives better start as the car is already revving
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anyone can try out r24,cos i dunno whether i am slow or the car it self,really cant pass 1:17XXX,
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Yo, i never thought of trying a renault. So i just tried it just now, and managed to beat my own personal record with it. See the screenshot below

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Yo, i never thought of trying a renault. So i just tried it just now, and managed to beat my own personal record with it. See the screenshot below

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damn you're fast.
I can't beat that.
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damn you're fast.
I can't beat that.
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Using a McLaren, i get 1:17:1xx i think. Using an f2004, i get 1:16:695. But I really didnt expect the r24 to be this quick. Gosh
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go get F1rst 3 everyone
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What is F1RST3 ?
F1RST3 is an online race management tool (multiplayer game client application) developed in c++. This will ease your life of online gaming. This client is developed for Online Racing games and mods. Join races, games, dedicated servers, etc. through the F1RST3 client. Communicate easily with your friends and agree on what to play simply from the F1RST3 online lobby on your desktop ! F1RST3 is there to to ease and bring the racing sim community together in one powerful application. Automised leagues, Third party league hosting, Dedicated server hosting, online games of Rfactor & mods, F1 Challenge & mods, etc. F1RST3 offers so much to ease your online gaming it would be to much to tell or list here. Explore yourself now by simply downloading the F1RST3 client. Click the download button below or click F1RST3 client on the left menu under the downloads section. Also please visit our forum for more updates, news, support and communication at www.f1rst3.com/forum.

F1RST3 Supported Games:
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i also using it
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Already install the software.
How to use that software? mind show me the steps? 10s..

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 9 2006, 10:27 PM)
Using a McLaren, i get 1:17:1xx i think. Using an f2004, i get 1:16:695. But I really didnt expect the r24 to be this quick. Gosh
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You use R24?
I'll try.
Renault is it?
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QUOTE(adrian0229 @ Jun 10 2006, 12:15 AM)
so juz now u all got race?
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more like a fiasco tongue.gif
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Hope with F1RST3..we have no problem racing.
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you guys punya nick @ f1rst3 is ?
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so want to use RH05? but damn the cloent messed up my menu
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Just install it and ready to go?
No matter what RH we have installed in our PC?

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Installed it.
Don't really understand it.
Only has RH2005..no RH2004.
Maybe all of us here vote..which one to use.
Maybe install both.
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linkin...in wanted to download RH2005...these two would be enough?

2005RH 4 F1C99-02 v1.0 BASIC
2005RH_Trackpack_4 F1C99-02_v1.0
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in the F1rst3 >> Personal, choose F1C to pick 2004RH

and yes, that's enuff
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I suggest we only use files provided by EMACF1.com
This is to avoid mismatch message during on9.


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nah, that mismatch message is a common problem during multiplaying.

Anyways, how about

RH2004 = Hamachi
RH2005 = First3

anyone?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 08:38 AM)
nah, that mismatch message is a common problem during multiplaying.

Anyways, how about

RH2004 = Hamachi
RH2005 = First3

anyone?
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I'll follow anything that have less problem and majority biggrin.gif
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so we'll be using hamachi for the 04 races
okay then
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 08:38 AM)
nah, that mismatch message is a common problem during multiplaying.

Anyways, how about

RH2004 = Hamachi
RH2005 = First3

anyone?
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 08:59 AM)
so we'll be using hamachi for the 04 races
okay then
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OK thumbup.gif

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hamachi is what?
software like First3?

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 10 2006, 09:38 AM)
hamachi is what?
software like First3?
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Hamachi
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A bit too late...but I did 1:13:954

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QUOTE(edison_84 @ Jun 10 2006, 09:41 AM)
everybody needs to have one in the PC?

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everybody needs to have one in the PC?
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yes... every1 must install it.
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dunno how 2 use it le...y not use default server?i think the prob already solve coz i can join other server n other ppl can join me oso when i create the server
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err...one question...must I download the mega update? The 1.38GB file blink.gif blink.gif
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What is LYN F1C hamachi account name and password?

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installed it.
How to config?
names network etc.
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Just installed teh RH2005.
Engines sounds smooth but the car seems slower and a lot of understeer.
Williams has 50 RPM more than other cars.
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understeer? wait untill you try tackling a 4th gear corner. it will give you all the oversteer you want.
really, the rear downforce rule makes this one hard car to control

Hamachi detail on 1st post
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QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 10 2006, 04:45 PM)
err...one question...must I download the mega update? The 1.38GB file blink.gif  blink.gif
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just download rh2004 and rh2005
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 07:33 PM)
understeer? wait untill you try tackling a 4th gear corner. it will give you all the oversteer you want.
really, the rear downforce rule makes this one hard car to control

Hamachi detail on 1st post
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It handled quite well when I put Grip to maximum.
So far works ok on certain cars such as Ferrai and McLaren.
With Kimi's...got 1:17 at Silverstone sad.gif
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ah, so u don't use the advance setup? Maximum grip = maximum downforce = slower car during straight. you have to find the right balance
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Entered Hamachi.
Saw three (3) names.
How to race?
Launch the F1C and then search it in the multiplayer section?

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Multiplayer and choose LAN, not internet on the REFRESH TYPE LIST
If any of us make a race, it should be listed there
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So, we just play F1C RH2004 with hamach, on or not?





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Hamachi will make a virtual network, so it's like we are on LAN. and nobody else but us can see this
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 09:03 PM)
ah, so u don't use the advance setup? Maximum grip = maximum downforce = slower car during straight. you have to find the right balance
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Love the Silverstone circuit..easy to drive.


QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 10 2006, 09:29 PM)
Multiplayer and choose LAN, not internet on the REFRESH TYPE LIST
If any of us make a race, it should be listed there
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Noted.

QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 11 2006, 12:52 AM)
Hamachi will make a virtual network, so it's like we are on LAN. and nobody else but us can see this
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Let's hope it's better.
We can see other cars qualify etc.
No lagging.


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Got this from a F1C web site:

1-2 radiator size is ok for qualifying
2-3 is ok for race

(Depending on the circuit temperature)

If you are in RH2005 use 3-4 size.


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Guys, how many of you were online all the time?
Either with RH04 or RH05.
I'm also frequently online...maybe we can race for fun biggrin.gif
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No wonder Ferrari sucks in 2005.
FIA decide to reduce the aerodynamics of the cars.
That's why RH2005 cars is so hard to drive...a lot of understeer.

Maybe after the expansion pack released...then should be ok.
RH2004 is better.

Did you know that you can increase the car speed by editing gdb files?
I won't do it...cheating lah tongue.gif
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I finally finish downloading the 2005 pack and installed. Can you guys explain to me something...how to pick RH2004 cars? I also feel RH2005 cars got a lot of understeer
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I finally finish downloading the 2005 pack and installed. Can you guys explain to me something...how to pick RH2004 cars? I also feel RH2005 cars got a lot of understeer
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No need use rh2004 car for rh2005, just practice more and adjust the car setup to suit ur driving style..^^ (To make this games like real life F1. tongue.gif ).

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I suck at setting up...who wants to be my technician tongue.gif
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wat problem u face?for normal setting,u can set ur own downforce by urself lo by adjusting the wing....but then o...evrytime i oso feel that my can pick up not really good...

evrytime when i chase the other car until reach their 'ass' then when cornering,my accelerate n pick up cannot fight or even match wif them
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you can't increse the speed of the car adjusting the GDB. for one it just a database file. the only file you can adjust is the engine.ini file. but you really need a good calculator and a certain tool to know how to adjust it.

some thing you want to know about the files in the game.
GDB = Game DataBase. Used to put certain tracks and cars to a certain season. the game will look for this file to know where and when cars and track are raced. that's why we never see the 99 car in the 2000 season.

AIW = AI Waypoint. This is the file that tells the AI car how to race on the track. It states the speed, braking point and the line to use for the AI. Because of this is hard coded into the game, the AI will have a similar driving pattern & speed. Thus they need another file to be dissimilar

RCD = RaCing Driver. It gives the AI in the game the variation of speed that occurs in real life. No way Alex Yoong is as fast as Hakkinen aint it? tongue.gif

*.mas file = The shape and colours of the car. need special software to open.

Terrain.ini. = used for telling the game of the terrain of the track. only applicable if the track has no default terrain specified already in the AIW file. used to make sparks fly (literally) when vehicle collision occur.




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some more tweaks you might want to try

FI Challenge DIR/SAVE/PLAYER NAME/PLAYER NAME.plr
this is the player file. and it has a lot more option to tweak inside here than inside the game.
my reccomendation is

No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car (except autopit)
Half Rate="0" // 0 = super-high physics rate, 1 = normal
Tire Sampling="1" // 0 = normal, 1 = extra HAT samples (*slightly* more accurate over sharp curbs, otherwise a waste of CPU)
Self In Rearview="1" // Show rear wing and rear wheels in rearview
Vehicle Sparks="1" // Whether sparks occur from vehicle-to-vehicle collisions
LCD Display Modes="7" // Add the modes to allow them: 1=status 2=aids 4=engine/brake temps

anyways, if you're struggling for grip, don't turn on the Half Rate and Tyre Sampling like I did. This gives more realistic feel to the game, but you can lose up to 2~3 seconds because the car will become more slippery and more unstable on the kerbs. it's worth it tho if you know how to handle the car with the option on
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QUOTE(smokey @ Jun 11 2006, 08:44 AM)
ai yahh... u all raced on friday liao....im too late...
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I would not call it a race though tongue.gif
More like 'fiasco' laugh.gif

QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 11 2006, 09:38 AM)
I finally finish downloading the 2005 pack and installed. Can you guys explain to me something...how to pick RH2004 cars? I also feel RH2005 cars got a lot of understeer
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Wait till RH ready the expansion pack or correct the RH2005.
I still prefer RH2004.

QUOTE(edison_84 @ Jun 11 2006, 10:31 AM)
No need use rh2004 car for rh2005, just practice more and adjust the car setup to suit ur driving style..^^ (To make this games like real life F1.  tongue.gif ).

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1.raikonene, wat is the website? mind post the address at here? smile.gif
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What web site?
Try this.

http://www.emac.sportplanet.gamespy.com/forum/index.php

QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 11 2006, 11:33 AM)
I suck at setting up...who wants to be my technician tongue.gif
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Just download the car setup file and upload it during qualifying or race tongue.gif
Or maybe just concentrate more on grip, acceleration and cornering.
All depends on the circuit.

Silverstone is ok.
But Suzuka is difficult.
Monaco lagi la...


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I used to play F1 2000 using a joystick. Turned off all driving aids except crashing tongue.gif Its much easier to turn and control my acceleration since I turned off traction control. Den the joystick spoilt liao...so never play ady tongue.gif

But I remember my career stats....more than 3000 laps done in total blink.gif

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guys......i love to joint u guys race.....but cannot la for maybe this month(exam lol) hehe.....anyway did u guys ever race with Al 100% strength? i mean rh 2004..........just wanna try though......sorry for my stupid question coz u all oledi pro ma.....any tips to new comers? hehe.....
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Yes , I always race with 100% strength of AI . If you have a lot's of aids on , you can hardly overtaking some car because it did limit some of your speed , if not mistaken ... Anyway , I also missed the first match ... Haiz ... Oh yea , I almost done a ferrari F1 fans site , and I am thinking to do one for this F1C League ... Anyone support ?
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Turn off the braking aid. it's the stupidest there is. Manual braking can give you more advantage as you can brake later and faster than automatic can.

For more challenge, try 100% AI in 2005RH. and then 100% lap length. and also turn on the Tyre Sampling and Half Rate. Now that is the best challenge there is.

you can do PHP Ghost? coz if you do you can help me with that. I need someone to design the site. i can do the hard coding and database.
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QUOTE(ghost_301 @ Jun 11 2006, 05:15 PM)
Yes , I always race with 100% strength of AI . If you have a lot's of aids on , you can hardly overtaking some car because it did limit some of your speed , if not mistaken ... Anyway , I also missed the first match ... Haiz ... Oh yea , I  almost done a ferrari F1 fans site , and I am thinking to do one for this F1C League ... Anyone support ?
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Tried qualifying using 100% AI drivers agression and 120% AI drivers strengths.
At Silver, the pole was 1:12 by AI shakehead.gif does not make sense.

Great..our own web site.
I'm confident that we at F1C will last forever rclxm9.gif
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Guys,
let's practise on Canada.
Maybe have a race earlier next weekend tongue.gif
And another weekend before the real race tongue.gif
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 11 2006, 06:53 PM)
Turn off the braking aid. it's the stupidest there is. Manual braking can give you more advantage as you can brake later and faster than automatic can.

For more challenge, try 100% AI in 2005RH. and then 100% lap length. and also turn on the Tyre Sampling and Half Rate. Now that is the best challenge there is.

you can do PHP Ghost? coz if you do you can help me with that. I need someone to design the site. i can do the hard coding and database.
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yup...i'm always race with that thing turn off.......but i'm just started play this game for 2 weeks only....can joint u guys ka? biggrin.gif for sure u all will keep lapping me down till race is over.....100%strength and aggresion at stock(75% i think) kiinda hard to even get 10-8th place ma rclxub.gif so damn hard to get that position.....but when i'm race with all stock difficulty...hehe way too easy la pulak....hehe....

i'm keep practice when i have time icon_rolleyes.gif
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A tip on aggresion. Put the slider just beneath the difficulty. more the aggresion the more the AI take weird lines such as cutting corners and taking the grass. While this is bad for us, the AI uses basic physics and will not lose any grip/time doing that.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 11 2006, 08:48 PM)
Guys,
let's practise on Canada.
Maybe have a race earlier next weekend  tongue.gif
And another weekend before the real race  tongue.gif
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OK thumbup.gif next track --> Canada
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OK thumbup.gif  next track --> Canada
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Tips on Canada.
Brake before you see the 50 meter sign board.
Adjust wisely.

Clocked 1:15 with F2004

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Question.
Let say I kept turning rapidly to the right but quite nicely to the left.
Which part was it?
X axis deadzone or X Axis sensitivity?
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that will only work with analouge controls. it has nothing to do with digital controls
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Question.
Let say I kept turning rapidly to the right but quite nicely to the left.
Which part was it?
X axis deadzone or X Axis sensitivity?
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did you play with joystick?
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QUOTE(yenson @ Jun 12 2006, 02:41 PM)
did you play with joystick?
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Game pad.
Playstation 2 kinda control.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 12 2006, 08:26 AM)
Question.
Let say I kept turning rapidly to the right but quite nicely to the left.
Which part was it?
X axis deadzone or X Axis sensitivity?
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turn off the steering help. it's messing with the analouge input
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hello....someone(linkinstreet) post this in VM forum......
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Me and some Lowyat.net guys have made this league for F1 Challenge enthutiast. The race will be using the RH2004 and 2005 mod. Which will be decided on majority before each race.
Note that even tho the name is league, we'll be racing for fun for now. When the majority have decided that the racers have accumulated enough experience with the game (No Yuji Ide like drivers please), than the real league will start.
some information

-Races will be done on 25% lap length of the real track
-all aids are allowed, but not adviced to use at it can cause massive lap time slowness
-One hour of practice will begin before 3 laps of qualifying and then straight to race.
-Settings can be shared between drivers.
-Races will be hosted on Virtual LAN using Hamachi

any more info please visit here
im interested in joining too,can i? quite boring playing with AI..
have been playing F1C for 2 years,using keyboard
with 91% strength, 100% aggresion and some driver aids, on or off...
so, i think im not as slow as ide maybe like scott speed tongue.gif
favourite tracks are melbourne,monza,monaco,montreal,imola

and what mods are you guys using...is't F1 mod by CTPD 2005?
but whistling.gif game also can play online? sweat.gif

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all aids are allowed, but not adviced to use at it can cause massive lap time slowness

ah????

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QUOTE(speedoom @ Jun 12 2006, 04:29 PM)
hello....someone(linkinstreet) post this in VM forum......
im interested in joining too,can i?    quite boring playing with AI..
have been playing F1C for 2 years,using keyboard
with 91% strength, 100% aggresion and some driver aids, on or off...
so, i think im not as slow as ide maybe like scott speed  tongue.gif
favourite tracks are melbourne,monza,monaco,montreal,imola

and what mods are you guys using...is't F1 mod by CTPD 2005?
but  whistling.gif  game also can play online? sweat.gif
ah????
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tell me when are you always online?
Maybe only both of us can race...for fun.

I only off the braking assistant.
Others..ON.


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welcome. and check the 1st post for more info on how to join us!
We're using RH04 and Rh05 as unlike the CTDP mod it's not a standalone mod, thus installation are easier, and so too are the connection process.

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phew,quite relieve actually, now i can uninstall CTPD...it takes 2++GB of my precious HDD space

you guys usually play online, using Rh2004 or Rh2005?
and this is the mod right?
user posted image

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usually 04. I race 05 offline
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Later 2.30pm, i will host a game at F1C, canada circuit. just play for fun.
name:lyn f1c
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ps:if cant find the games, please msg me tru YM or MSN.

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Tonight lor. i have work to do during the day
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Tonight lor. i have work to do during the day
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I will host, wat time u guy prefer?
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what game is this ? i mean what game do i need first ?
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what game is this ? i mean what game do i need first ?
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Do u have F1C pc version? Install it, then later download Rh2004 and RH2005.
Rh2004 is required if u wan race online, cause most of use use RH2004 to race online.

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F1 Challenge 99-02 by EA Sports. than download the mod.

edison: How about 7.30 tonight?
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F1 Challenge 99-02 by EA Sports. than download the mod.

edison: How about 7.30 tonight?
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tonight 7.30pm,i think i'll join too...

if only....where can I download the rh2004 mod other than fileplanet@gamespy? torrent would be better...
downloading from fileplanet...slow as snail,<4KB

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tonight 7.30pm,i think i'll join too...

if only....where can I download the rh2004 mod other than fileplanet@gamespy? torrent would be better...
downloading from fileplanet...slow as snail,<4KB
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use flashget to download fileplate exe files.

ps: I already off the 2.30pm session, cause want zz tongue.gif So c u guy at 7.30pm.^^

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so,we use hamachi izit?open the hamachi then at multiplayer click lan?
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yeah. when you see our name in hamachi is green, it means the virtual lan is okay.
I tested this with edison
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hey, add me for this weekend thumbup.gif
btw, 10pm...wat day?
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err....RH2004 is more confusing than RH2005...base, expansion, trackpack...download all? blink.gif
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yeah...dl all...

eh..my name no color le...let me tell u how i start the hamachi...if got any wrong tell me ya...i open the hamachi...then juz on it n then nonid press anything rite?

after that enter the multiplayer....refresh list put LAN ...evrything correct?
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hey, add me for this weekend thumbup.gif
btw, 10pm...wat day?
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for more information, please check first post.

QUOTE(young_soul @ Jun 13 2006, 06:48 PM)
err....RH2004 is more confusing than RH2005...base, expansion, trackpack...download all? blink.gif
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it basically the same, just that RH2005 don't have expansion pack yet.
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all it says is summm time this weekend...but got time liao. Belum decide day izzit?
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world cup maa.I think we have to race at evening. if not clash.
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ahhh...miss today race...
eventhough i use flashget...the dl speed still crawling <6KB cry.gif

weekend race im on biggrin.gif

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eh? i usually get 40KB++ with flashget

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phew..after restart pc, my dl speed back to normal

and all i need to dl are
-RH2004 basic v1.05
-RH2004 expansianpack v1.05
-RH2004 trackpack v1.05 ...........only,right?


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yeah
that's all u need

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Great.

Speed,
tell me anytime you're online...maybe we can practice.
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Played online with 15+ players in Canada.
International server
RH2005.

Quite fun though.
6 laps of race.

Pole was 1:16 not by me.
Mine was 1:20++ tongue.gif

I jumped start (forgot about the launch control)
The funny thing is, reaching the 3rd corner...most of them crash laugh.gif
Only me and another driver brake before the 50 meter sign and passed it.
I was 2nd.
Then, they catched up..I was 6th.
I was qisqualified because did not took the penalty for the jumped start.
A few moments before that..most of the drivers left the game..maybe because of
the Brazil Vs Croatia game.

It was fun.
RH2005 car really suxx though tongue.gif


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