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LYN Official Hyundai ElantraMD Ver.8, The Club Been Officially Registered Now!
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Feb 21 2013, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 21 2013, 03:37 PM) Hi there, thanks, by what i know is 5W 40 should be lighter but in my experiance, 5w 50 seems to be more better, let me share my Vios experiance, after 5K service, toyota SC started to use Toyota 5W 40 fully synthetic OIL, after warranty expired for the car, i change to 5w 50 which is a mobil 1, tell u i feel the car more lighter and more powerful yet more smooth and less engine noise, ideally u wont hear any engine noise when u waiting in traffic light, hehehe, thats why i think 5w 50 should be more powerfull and smoother than 5w 40, but i may be wrong here because Mobil 1 and toyota is diffrent brand, further to add, for my Elantra i'm not going to change it on my first service, planing to wait for the next 5000 service an hantam my Mobil 1 5w 50 on it, Hopefully the car wont fly  hehe, just kidding... please check this site for explaination at bottom page http://www.chemlube.com.my/product.html
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Feb 21 2013, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:06 PM) Does the Oil really does what it says, afraid to test on my car lah bro, if anything goes wrong, pening lah...., have u tested it on ur vehicle ??? really sorry bro to make u  ....u see currently i'm using 5w30 petro canada semi. HE recommend us 10w40 helix h7. good engine oil...its general to say new cars use 5w30 engine oil. 2nd hand car 5 years above 10w40 engine oil. more than 10 years better get new car!!!!! u see i once tried 5w50 for my old car honda civic ek. usually pour in 10w40. but since oil always getting less...shop recommends 5w50. oil is thick so will never go away. but drawback is it makes my car feel heavy after drive first time..so i let the oil blend in for 5 days. but still, feel the same heavy...so i decided to change back to 10w40. instantly the car feels lighter is before.so its clearly the oil makes my car feels heavy...other thing can make the car feel heavy is over fill engine oil. the next morning i check the dipstick and its true the engine was overfill alot..so next day ask them to take out the oil. after that car feels as normal...this was my experience so u could ask others opinion before make any decision... This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM
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Feb 21 2013, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 21 2013, 04:36 PM) Thanks allot for the info bro, that's rite bro, Engine Oil makes allot different, u check back my edited reply, hehe, i missed out something earlier, i does see the point u are trying emphasize after i looked the website for 2nd time, see how lah bro, i will go check out the Mobil 1 5w 30 Oil for my 5K service, sure expensive, because last time my 5w 50 cost me RM185 - 195 depends on the shop, between my fren he is good in this type of car things and very informative guy, he told me, no mater its semi or fully the shell helix is still heavy compare to other brand, so myself am not fan of shell either, now a bit afraid of that engine oil that hyundai using, my recommendation for petrol try use caltex ron 95, if you are using shell, u will find the car more powerful and will move much more easier compare to shell petrol, check out and see since shell introduce ron95, i stop using shell until today. i use only petron or BHpetrol. caltex have less station...my wifes car previously use petronas...now use petron. can feel the pickup...shell & petronas are adik beradik one...
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Feb 21 2013, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Feb 21 2013, 05:17 PM) I am using SHell 10w40 too..it's recommend by the one of my mechanic's friend..  yes...every new car is with shell 10w40 helix h7. but like me i change to 5w30 car feels lighter not that obvious. but people like me i can feel the lightness..so it gives more FC. but not that much...helix is ok...but if try to buy outside need to ensure ur buying the original H7. not the recycle one if not ur engine lifespan will be shorten...
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Feb 22 2013, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 21 2013, 06:53 PM) Hi hks, I'm not very good in this, but from my understanding the first digit define the type I guess, 10 is for semi syntethic and 5 is for fully synthetic, in general fully synthetic is much lighter than semi synthetic, about the 2nd digit, it defines how lighter the oil is, the lower the digit the more lighter it is, for example 5w 30 is more lighter than 5w 40, this applies for semi synthetic also, please check this with local mechanics, I might be totally wrong on the first digit explanation, hi guys plz correct me if I'm wrong, thxx...  This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 22 2013, 09:18 AM
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Feb 22 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 22 2013, 09:19 AM) bro, u had change to PC fuel oil right? How do u feel? OK? yup. ok. feel lighter. but not that much because after a while u forget but it. with helix i've use once(1000km only) so not sure whether PC there is a fuel savings. rm70 can go 450km(petron) but what i'm concern is the protection. every morning start there is tet tet tet sound. but its normal in the morning(24 Celsius temp) after warm up sound goes away... just that i avoid common brands like shell, petronas, mobil coz of recycle oil. petro canada in malaysia only 1 distributor. so originality is gerenti..
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Feb 22 2013, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 22 2013, 10:08 AM) Tet Tet sound? the sound only come after using PC or its been there since day 1? Mine no sound even cold start after 2 days leaving it. Maybe will rev up a while but will come back down below 1K after few secs. You know the market trend of local fuel oil bro .. good Cause not many ppl know what is happening at the back as every where ppl are promoting the local brands. But not just local brands, even some oversea brands like Sum0, HK5, Lub3 or R0ck also don't really has a spec sheet for you to see. Makes you wonder what they put inside the oil.  im not sure when the sound starts from...i better monitor that sound to see whether its becoming worst or not...performance ok. but i dont worry much bout the engine coz as long you pour in the correct engine oil and its original its fine with me. every oil maker says it protects ur engine right? but we dont know it until we open up the head cover.PC have data spec that can be obtain from www.pclube.com.my. its satisfactory for me. but helix 7 is not bad at all. it just that i want the 30 viscosity. its has been 7 yrs using 40 viscosity. its just me... but i really potong when on the aircon horrible sound to your ears...whining sound.maybe it could be the compressor. day 2 already hearing that but i wasn't alert of it...tomorrow want to send to SC have a look.the sound like ur using a recon compressor..mane blh...krete baru ma...does anybody have this problem? what will the SC say? its normal?c'mon...not that word again....  it shows how simple the SC take its countermeasures...if they check it kaw2 then they explain it in detail its fine with me... that's professional. This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 22 2013, 10:40 AM
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Feb 22 2013, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 22 2013, 10:14 AM) Bro, yours is 1.6 auto/manual or 1.8 ??? 1.8 auto...
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Feb 22 2013, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 22 2013, 10:41 AM) I like to start my engine/car every morning and let it run for a min before moving. I will not turn on the radio and air cond till i hit highway. So i can observe any farnie sound or irregularities from the whole car. You should get the compressor check bro. Our car damn quiet during stationery without the radio on with air cond on level 1. If air cond off, damn i dun even know the engine ON or not .. haha!  now i'm doin that since yesterday just to observe any noise. evey morning after 2 bars temp i start moving slowly. since coming out of my house there is a high hill to climb...so the car seems really hard to climb with 2 bars..so will make sure 3 bars temp then climb after this. yup if idle really low noise. the compressor only whines if i throttle the engine. if the car moving can hear it from rpm 1k to 1.8k. if the car speed at 30kmh i guess, the sound disappear. they should replace new one...
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Feb 22 2013, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 22 2013, 12:20 PM) Your FC 450Km for Rm 70 is quite good bro, are u getting this from the beginning, i mean even on the first 1000 ? or after first service ?, between this 450KM is fully city or highway or combine drive ?? since the demand is high i reveal my secret rm70 450km before 1000km service i didn't look at all the FC because i feel the car like heavy.(because engine parts still new, net yet loose)so no use at looking FC. after 1000km, i change oil to Petrol Canada Supreme Synthetic 5w30 and i bought potent booster. i pour in petron ron95 rm70.(in car have 2 bars left) at night. my journey to office every day is 90km. start morning(time 6.30) town cheras bt9(jam about 5 minits), then hway(clear)speed 120km, end in shah alam(clear). journey back start town shah alam(jam 5 minits) then hway(jam 30 minits) end town cheras batu 9 (jam 5 minits). saturday and sunday town strolling for 10kms. total rm450km.(left 2 bars at dash)remaining 113km. i also use potent booster to help me to lower my FC. Use Mode EC level 3. never use HA or FA. just finish my test for BHpetrol so rm70 i get 422km only. power feel slightly low if compare to petron. after this back to petron. my conclusion potent booster, type of petrol, type of engine oil 5w30, pump gas in night time,journey in low temp(morning & evening),speed below 120kmh and lighter leg helped me get better mileagethats my secret. FOC. my old 1.8 honda vtec rm70 can get 400km. many say its impossible to get that in B18c type r ron95 high cams...its the bond between man and machine they say. talk to ur car. it hears you... This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 22 2013, 03:18 PM
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Feb 22 2013, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 22 2013, 03:26 PM) Yo Boss, thanks allot, really helpfull, i'm considering the Potent boost, waiting for the guy to reply me the price, thanks allot again man.... potent booster ur paying not just to boost your FC there 2 more modes to make ur car faster...really helpful if ur trying to get out from roundabout...the car jumps wow...really...sure can smoke other cars...i never try before coz sayang krete ma...but u can feel the car can go much faster than b4...
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Feb 24 2013, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 22 2013, 08:01 PM) You r driving 1.6 or 1.8 bro? If 1.8 go ahead but if 1.6 n u r looking for better FC well sadly it's not really that much diff. Well unless u can live with a very slow car. As we tested before the potent are meant for 1.8 as their torque or power is higher. So even when they set to EC mode, the car at low rev but still can give sufficient power. This is not the case for 1.6 which has lower hP. If u r looking for acceleration then go ahead This is what I discovered from our road test for 1.6 unit previously. yup this is true. they say 5bhp increase for 1.8 model. 1.6 model not much fuel saving coz the car already fuel saving
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Feb 26 2013, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 26 2013, 02:33 AM) humm, speed is still not so much considered for me as i found the car now move much more faster, i serviced the car after 1000 Km, i wanted to use the Shell semi synt they use, but still no good feel about it, so i bought my own Mobil 1 10w 40 semi synt, guess what, they car more faster i mean, less throttle to shift between gears, the pickup was very good and smooth, seems like the FC as improved, now the car at 1 bar before half tank showing 200 Km, as what i know, it was 75% city drive and 25% highway, hopefully can mark a good consumption throughout full tank what ever the oil is as long as its original...safe for ur engine protection is most important.
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Feb 27 2013, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 27 2013, 01:18 AM) Ya true, that's why i choose a good oil, don't want to use bad oils, between i bought the Mobil 1 from tesco, so sure not recycled 1...
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Feb 28 2013, 08:41 AM
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This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 28 2013, 08:43 AM
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Feb 28 2013, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(va_841 @ Feb 27 2013, 11:15 PM) bro, make sure when u shift be gentle a bit on the paddle, watch the green eco light, make sure it is not turning off for long, try to make the eco light stays as much as u could, if u feel car is needing allot throthle to move, than something wrong, on your first service complaint to them, i did, even thou i got over 430++ average on that first mineral engine oil, i still complaint because what simedarby claim on their website is totally misleading, they stated combine fuel consumption of highway and city will result in 14.1km/lit, that not even come close to what we are experiencing on real life, so i made a complaint they said they can't do much and they reset my ECU and upgraded to new a 1, i still remember when i saw the computer box they use to connect to the car shows 4 new ECU, everything have the word IMPROVEMENT, but can't really see what was the improvement about, so the service person used the latest ECU it has, some-more i use Mobil 1 10w 40 Semi synthetic, not the shell helix 7 that they recommend, another thing to take note, for petrol don't use shell or petronas, i recommend u use caltex 95, use it to flush out the carbons in ur engine, caltex are good in cleaning ur engine, once u finished up with caltex, u can use petron, that should give good power and fuel almost on par with caltex, seriously say no for shell and petronas for this car, use caltex and see for ur self, u will notice immediate power difference on ur pickup(torque)....  oic..but there is one elantra owner use petronas and his mileage is 560km for rm80.(his car is 1.8!!!!!!!) his driving condition is 80%hway. are sure u already test petronas? shell i never hear any good comments(no wonder alonso lost to vettel). caltex is also like BHP not so many station.but since ur hearing your comments, i would give it a try..see how it performs. maybe petronas has something to offer. has anybody else use petronas for their elantra?what is ur FC? petron and bhp is good one. but bhp give less pickup. i can say a balance between km = bhp. like petronas with my previous car gives >km but <bhp. petron km = bhp(but smooth acceleration). caltex km? bhp? like u said >km & >bhp. i like... This post has been edited by civicspoon: Feb 28 2013, 08:56 AM
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Feb 28 2013, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 28 2013, 09:07 AM) Best quote I heard "shell i never hear any good comments(no wonder alonso lost to vettel)"  F1 no 1 fan...  can't wait new season to start... petronas merc will win this season...  yes...yes.. F1 win is not decided by what petrol you fill in, its down to the car aerodynamics... shell i think the most advertise petrol company, but still their fuel not so advance as it seems. i've tried 4 kinds of car with shell,(merc cgi, vw polo, honda vtec, kelisa all i get is a little power but very bad in fuel saving...but petronas test from all these cars less pickup but good in FC. thats why people avoid these petrol and go for something else that can give better for both worlds power and mileage...
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Feb 28 2013, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 28 2013, 09:26 AM) I also wanna change to other brand actually but it seemed like i am too get used of using it (and also because of collecting the Bonus Link points  ) For my car, I had just tried Shell and Petronas. Didn't tried BHP or Petron yet. Maybe for my wife new car, will give Petronas a try and see how it goes since same engine as ours  like me petronas, shell, bhp, petron is easy to get... but caltex no...i think caltex is not so many station now since esso and mobil already 1 as petron...but i would give it a try...but i have another teori, petrol have relation with engine oil. if lets say one say petronas is the perfect petrol for elantra... if u and i use petronas and it doesn't give the any impact on power and FC so it is because we are using the different engine oil. just my 1 cent teori  what do you think?
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Feb 28 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Feb 28 2013, 09:51 AM) Yup, u r right. The quality of the engine oil do play a part of the FC/Power with the petrol we pump. With the bad quality of our local petrol ron95 etc .. it's actually crucial to use a good engine oil to help protect our engine and filter out the carbon. true...got to test them all and then will know which is better...and another teori is that if combine between petrol brand also can give better mileage...for instance, i fill petron whereby in my tank still have petrol shell.(about 2 bars) and it give me 450km rm70 petron. now in my tank all petron, fill petron another rm70, couldn't get 450km..driving condition is the same... means here that if want to do testing need to empty current fuel in tank untill fuel light come out then fill another brand of petrol. if not it will give inaccurate results in FC. it happens to previous with my honda vtec type r engine...i get better mileage(power is retained) when i mix bhp and petronas... bhp mix with others don't work... its  . but its unpractical to mix fuel as u will waste fuel going to 2 stations...unless u mix petrols that is next to each other...but still its but i've done it as its the only choice i have if not the honda will be underpowered and get worst FC. people say I have the best FC for my honda type r car. the secret was mix fuel...
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Feb 28 2013, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(kwchan_7 @ Feb 28 2013, 11:20 AM) Mine FC is really worst..been driving the car for almost half year.. 42L petrol can only last for 360KM Max...  everytime I pump full tank RM80.. the MFD will only show 400KM availabe ( last 50KM will drop fast and show none). the petrol consumption is on par with 408T  what is ur driving condition? hway? city?
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