I almost got sting by a black scorpion few mins ago. It is almost the size of my palm.

What happen is i need to open the gate everytime i came home and this time when i got down to open the gate suddenly i felt that there is something on my leg so i bend down and have a look then i saw some 8 legged freaks kinda insect so i faster kick it off lo.

after i kick it off then only i saw the creature. It is 1 big black scorpion.

So, what i wanted to know is ... What should i put to prevent this dangerous creature from coming into my house / room ?

Scorpion, caterpillar or snakes ... all those kinda creatures ... how to prevent as i am staying alone most of the time.



This post has been edited by Vinspire: Mar 28 2006, 03:13 PM

a big scorpion crawl up your leg? Hmm you must be staying in some secluded place near jungle ler. I used to live surroiunded by Jungle ans that has never happened to me. ANyway Im not too sure how to prevent it from coming in besides just closing all the doors and windows. Make sure there are no holes where it is able to come in.

Did anyone from scopion thread lost a scorpion a while ago??

Not really secluded area. maybe because of the back of my house got 1 big jungle area but i think i am pretty lucky lo coz the scorpion is right on my feet and i am still walking ... when i walk 2/3 step only i notice something weird on my leg so bend down n see. ( ngam ngam in front of my car so can see from the car light )

after kick the scorpion off ... it crawl towards my house so i take a broom and whack it lo. At first got snap photo one but it was in night mode so the shuttle is delayed which the pic ended up very blur ( too suspense till forgot to ON flash )

Ridsect Goodnite tak diganggu nyamuk~~~

try to find tak diganggu ular, kala jengking & labah-labah one lar...

hao, u sure it work ?

do what the professionals do. wear hiking boots & always keep a snake stick at arm's reach.

on a more practical note, those electronic high frequency emitting pest repellant thingies might work.

Lolz ... its just for ordinary day. I tot we can put salt or something coz last time when i go camping ... they got put some kinda stuff around the camping zone.

put sulphur around your house.

erm...no! hahaha...

but i know how to prevent the snake from going it. Chinese call it 硫磺 but i dunno what the heck is this, i just heard it from ah gong ah ma aunty uncle.

what kind of sulphur ?

it prevent what 1 actually ? any kind of creature ? i tot of put it at my door entrance only coz want to have a peaceful sleep and i think its kinda hard to put it around the house also.

is there a scorpion in malaysia????

Is sulphur = 硫磺? if it is, then it only effective on snakes...

yes, they do live in forest areas..my friend got stung by one in rubber estate i think

.... so you killed the scorpion just because it exist and was in you sight

What actually happen if you got stung by the scorpion ?

I didnt kill it because it exist and was just in my sight. Did you read what i write properly ?

sulphur = 硫磺

HHC, that is human normal action when see big scorpion. If my mom saw, she will make sure the scorpion died in her sight before it enter my house. Last time there was a 5 inch centipede sneak in my house. Everyone was running like mad (including me ) but my mom is the 1 who brrought hammer, spanar and anything that can be weapon to kil the centipede..............

you kicked it and wacked it with a broom....

Sulfur is kind of multi purpose usage. It can help prevent snakes, ants, scorpions, spiders, and etc etc... it can even help prevent wildboar too

Sulfur is crucial thing where I always bring it for camping. It really helps to prevent some dangerous creatures.

You can buy sulfur from hardware shop. It is quite cheap. Normally available in yellow color.

RESPECT

well.. maybe just put the sulphur around ur house.... like sempadan... around ur house.. or garden...
another word is belerang.. just go to shop.. ask em belerang or sulphur... hardwareshop maybe... normaly yellow in colour...
or just use garam..... but garam disappearded esily after rain...

rasional..
reptilia skin cant tahan the sulphur/garam/belerang..
they skinn will burned i think.... so, they wont pass the border u make

g.luck

Yeap. I tot of letting it go one but its heading towards my house. I am just doing things that i think it is right only.

Hopefully that does support my statement.

relax lar ppl. If u see a scorp...dun worry. It cant run fast. Sweep it away with a broom or something. Same goes for pedes and spiders. None of those animals can cause death...worst case scenario u get stung...tehre will be localised swelling, redness and pain. symptoms last anywhere from a few hours to max of 2 days.

If its a snake then be more careful..they can gldier very quickly and some may be venomous to a point where even crocodila hunter dun wanna get biten by that. haha. Coz malaysia is home to various species of cobra, vipers and also huge pythons. Anyway...just scare it away with a stick...dont get too near. They will not ac agressively unless cornered. Their number one choice of action is alwez to flee the scene.

Oh, not only apply to snakes? I see I see... I though only apply to snakes... hehe...

yet another poor living creature get killed by human's lack of knowledge.
everything with life deserved to live. dont simply kill something if u dont have to. as long as it's no longer a threat to u. why kill it?

This post has been edited by wei: Mar 28 2006, 11:16 AM

You can't really blame them. It is because they are not expose to this kind of creatures, to them, one sting from these creatures can take away their lives. So in order to protect themselves and the family, they'll kill these creatures. I will do the same if i'm younger, but now, other than snakes, i'll keep them in tank.

im not blamming anyone. just that the knowledge level here for public is still long way to go.... *sight*

Yea, that's what i'm trying to say. Haih, our country is different from countries like US or Aus where they give animals talk from school to school. Where the children there get the knowledge of handling the animals, how to prevent them and so on...

So, who's going to be the first Pemburu Buaya here?? Malaysia boleh!!

hey... we can actually do this. can start gather some experienced keeper and give talk wut

yaya..n let ppl gain knowledge from here..aso a good idea..

But who's free enough to do this? Cos it'll be school hours when you give speech, and most of them are working at this hours.

Unless officers from zoo are willing to volunteer since their job is dealing with animals and they no need to take leave just to give talk.

well, things are easy to say hard to do. have to look for those senior that's retired or really free.

Yea, it's quite hard to get it done as it involves with a lot of parties like the government, the school, individuals and so on...

does malaysia have any society like exotics keeper society or something???

Malaysian Tarantula Society? The rest i don't have any ideas. So far MTS is the only society in Malaysia i've heard.

Vinny plead not guilty.

1. I dont know so cant blame me fully.

2. I didnt look for it but its right stuck at my leg.

3. I dont want to kill it in the beginning but its walking towards my house which changed my mind to kill it as i am staying alone. If i got stung or what inside ... Nobody could help me. So, taking a prevention step.

Anyway, here is the pic of the scorpion. Ermm ... anyone know how i can keep this ?

i tot you said you didnt kill it...
it's one nice scorpion, too bad, life goes on.

actually what will happen if i got stung by it ? give me some knowledge then i wont kill it next time and u all wont blame me if i kill it again.

P/S : dont tell me i will become scorpion king

the most you'll get swelling or maybe feaver for a week.
the local species are not that dangerous, in case if you get stung by a scorpion, seek medical attention just in case. who know if you are allagic to to venom.

Eight

Means if i am allergic to venom then there is a possibility of death ?

How can i keep this scorpion ? dry it or what ?

eat it....

If you are allergic to venom the symtoms and effects can be much more severe. From normal swelling to fevers and vomitting. The worst case scenario is a coma or even death though I have never heard about scorpion stings though. Mostly bee stings have been reported to have brought death.

Can someone tell me what i should do if i want to keep this 1st ?

I dont blame them for that.
If one think a scorpion sting could put somebody to death or serious illness, then i admire his courage to kill the scorp so that it wont kill others in the neighbourhood.

I understand some scorpions keepers and yet my gang of tarantula keepers might not happy to see this. But imagine the situation now is an unharmful snake that try to crawl into your house and you dont know heck about snake, you probably thought every snake is aggresive and venomous to put you into hospital or coffin. What would you do?

Well maybe Vins need to take the blame for being ignorance about this creatures, and the the scorpion take part of it as for entering human territory.

Agree to that.
But sometimes I need to constantly remind myself that we are all part of the food chains before i can throw in a meal worms or cricket to my tarantula and start eating my kfc chicken. Im sure all those chicken that i ate and mealworms that i feed to my tarantula was never a threat to me, but why i kill them.

Read Herefor bite reports of the scorpions keeper.
Especially this one -> Homometrus Spinifer

Im not a doctor but it is still safe to say that very unlikely a malaysian scorpion will caused death to even those allergic to it.
And smellyocheese said, a peanut can kill you if you are allergic to it.

vei hon, how to keep this dead scorpion ?

Vei hong, i think it is human normal reaction. Not everyone had an interest in getting to know insect. Everyone have a different hobby. I am doing what the normal other human do. Its not that i purposely go look for one or it pass by my house. It is right on my feet and its crawling towards my house.

This pic is to show the size of the scorpion.

Some other pics of the scorpion ....

That's not big. Thought the size was as big as your palm. You must be a small fellar to drive a car. LOL! No point drying it. It will become disjointed to small pieces. Keep in formaldehyde(ah.....sure sp?).

Yeap. When i snap the photo with RM 1 notes that time only i realise it isnt as big as i thought it is. Anyway, it is still bigger than those baby type one.

Formalyne ? Where to get that ?

Sorry i really dont know how to preserve it.
Anyway that is a very nice scorpions.
Lucky you never get stung by it.
And even lucky you got to meet a scorpion, many of them in scorpions thread dream to meet one themself.

I know how to keep an alive one, dead one? Formalyne lo... maybe can get in pharmacies.

Okie ... Anyway, this is all i could give to the scorpion thread gang.



This post has been edited by Vinspire: Mar 28 2006, 03:44 PM

well like i said, if you dont have to, dont kill.

Now got a bit regret after seeing scorpion thread .... Should have keep it in the bottle or something before i feed it with the broom. What to do ... lack of knowledge in this

atlease now u know what to do next time.
u just throw RM30-50 away... hahaha.

if u keep tat..u can sell to ppl...can earn n won kill...so next time must remember dun kill...

you can get kileed by it if you have an allergic reaction towards its' sting.

Do you have any links/articles that show that there was somebody die or seriously ill stung by this species? (Yeah include those who allergic to it.) Did you even know what is the species?

just got back from pejabat haiwan. no 1 dare to come near me when i show them ...

somemore 1 guy said if i got sting might cause death. dunno true or not coz u all said wont cause death but i think that guy also dont know coz he dont even know what species is this.

try to go to primary school lab....
ask em to awet the scorp..
my school's lab assis always say, if we find rare animal that is dead... give to her so she can awet em....
huhuh i see her collection.. got snake, rat.. yuck

normally ppl c scorpion they sure think tat they will cos death becos they duno how many types of scorpion n which type can cos us death..so pl just conclude tat every scorpion can cos us death..aizh...they should go to scorpion thread..to learn more..

Aiyoh...aunty ar...u come a buat heboh about a lil scorpion for wat ler
I already said...its not poisonous but it is still painful.

-All scorpions are venomous but only some are poisonous to man/woman/watever
-Dun go ask the JPH or any other gomen body la...u want info ask Perhilitan...most likely they dun evenknow what species it is.
U will only die if u are allergic to insect venom...but chances of you having that is even lower. But then we do have some people who are so damn lucky with the wrong kind of luck la...

Our local species are very interesting. Usually the color black will deceive people that its a dangerous creature...its not true...

How to identify a dangerous scropion...
If a scorpion has big pincers and a small tail like this one, its not dangerous.
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/p_cavimanus5.jpg
U may think that it has a fat tail...but its not tat fat compared to the size of the body...This one is from Africa. (FYI : spinifers are quite reluctant to sting. They only attack with their tail when i start pulling it.

However, if u see a slightly harmless looking scorpion with thin pincers but having a med size tail...its likely a venomous species.
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/l_mucronatus_m.jpg
This one is from Malaysia. But still it won't kill you. Your pain may last longer than the usual Heterometrus stings.

However, next we approach the deadly ones.Looks harmless and nice, but if u get tagged (IF) u have about 2-4 hours to prepare you will...SURE DIE
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/l_quinquestriatus3.jpg
Leiurus quinquetriatus
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_australis5.jpg
Androctonus australis

Another way of id-ing is through the coloration of the scorpion.
http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/h_jayakari_salei4.jpg
See the tail color ?
Usually its a warning so tat others dun mess with it.

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/u_planimanus.jpg
This one got black marking on the chelae...but it has a small tail. It won't kill u but torture u...maybe la

So as a conclusion,u murdered an innocent fella trying to cross an obstacle which happen to be your leg.
Scorpions will not attack you unless u mess with it first. If given a choice, it will likely make a run for it and hide. They only sting when they are cornered or cannot escape. Usually they will strike a pose to showu they are not in a good mood so u shud leave it alone. So to be safe, keep your house clean, dun go into the forest wearing slippers, and dun put your hands or fingers inside cracks or crevices.

Oh yar and about the pejabat haiwan thingy...seriously, they know nothing about scorpions...if they see one, its as good as dead. We shud be lucky we dun have desert scorpions here, otherwise, u have a good reason to be scared haha (but then again, not all desert scorpions are poisonous)
Scorpions can be an interesting pet to keep...better alive then dead.



This post has been edited by Balthasar: Mar 29 2006, 10:21 AM

relax lar peeps...
he/she was just trying to defend him/her-self.

but kesian also lar...saw the picture...pincer also hancur. haha.

by the size i would say a juvie scorp. Hmm but its brown shade n not green.
nvm lar.

no need preserve lar...throw away the body only. Dats wut i did also when my adult scorpions/tarantulas died of old age.

Nothing can protect you from the wrath of a WOMAN

or

A WOMAN is more dangerous than a scorpion ?

hahaha...just joking
really hope that people will be able to understand this creatures more...in a good sense.

hahahaz .. if is a woman on his leg i dont think he will kick her off la .. anyway .. know more about animal is good for human being la .. concern more about natural thing ~~ i din hav an astro to watch animal planet or wat .. sad T.T

I dun watch animal planet or national geographics to know about scorp leh...just run through the web and pick up from the expertens.

Woman on my foot u mean...well depends on the weight la hahaha

lolx ... ya la me also run thru net but i like to watch moving creature more then pic .. haha and i lazy to wait for download sometimes.. if it is streaming.. then the net suck .. wa then watch liao also susah

sumhow..woman is more dangerous than scop..sumhow...

Yalor...but wat to do...when they hold the broom they become different person adi

lol...is true...wat can do...just escape la...hehe