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post Feb 22 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 22 2013, 03:55 PM)
When is the commercial gonna launch? Interested to buy ( i dont like the small row near canting).
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1st roundabout 3 o'clock on your right. There propose institute & commercial. But not sure it is shop or mall.
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post Feb 22 2013, 07:18 PM

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the main commercial area will be located at where the I&P Sales Galllery now stand.......that was what I was informed......
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post Feb 22 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 22 2013, 04:40 PM)
Ur right also. Not only commercial they are not strong, high rise pun cannot pakai. So far only their landed strong.
If only they sell the commercial lot to SP setia, cannot imagine how far AI can go.. Build something Setia Mall at Alam Impian and call it Impian Mall!!
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Yalor, quite impress with wat they delivered n did for landed housing quality in Bdr Kinrara, Alam Damai and Alam Impian but definitely not commercial.

Like BK9, dunno why they built 11-12 units of 2 rows shop which cant create anything n most vacant. Same goes to most BK commercial area, residents rather go Puchong Jaya or Bdr Puteri.

In term of township planning, Alam Impian is much better than Bandar Kinrara. Though I dont like their idea of snake / curvy roads instead of more straight roads due to slowing down cars but it seems doesnt. The phases of BK housing are inproper arrangement n bad accessibility in such good location of next to KL or Bukit Jalil.
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post Feb 22 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 22 2013, 07:38 PM)
Yalor, quite impress with wat they delivered n did for landed housing quality in Bdr Kinrara, Alam Damai and Alam Impian but definitely not commercial.

Like BK9, dunno why they built 11-12 units of 2 rows shop which cant create anything n most vacant. Same goes to most BK commercial area, residents rather go Puchong Jaya or Bdr Puteri.

In term of township planning, Alam Impian is much better than Bandar Kinrara. Though I dont like their idea of snake / curvy roads instead of more straight roads due to slowing down cars but it seems doesnt. The phases of BK housing are inproper arrangement n bad accessibility in such good location of next to KL or Bukit Jalil.
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+1 commercial cannot be like that. Rows so sikit, it wont be that wong. The one behind canting is really wtf. 1 row with 5 or 6 units only. Hahaha. What the heck. Whose idea was that?

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post Feb 23 2013, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 22 2013, 10:49 PM)
+1 commercial cannot be like that. Rows so sikit, it wont be that wong. The one behind canting is really wtf. 1 row with 5 or 6 units only. Hahaha. What the heck. Whose idea was that?
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Hahaha, true, I can't imagine why they keep repeat the same mistakes. How the 5-6 or 11-12 units show lots able to sustain their business while the area unable to draw more consumers?

I&P really I&P!! If they really build at least 5-6 rows or min 150 units shop lots, it would be more vibrant and could bring a different story.


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What Alam Impian lacking off is commercial, commercial, commercial, and amenities like all medium of schools, international school, hospital, and etc.
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post Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 23 2013, 12:32 AM)
Hahaha, true, I can't imagine why they keep repeat the same mistakes. How the 5-6 or 11-12 units show lots able to sustain their business while the area unable to draw more consumers?

I&P really I&P!! If they really build at least 5-6 rows or min 150 units shop lots, it would be more vibrant and could bring a different story.
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Yup. U can also see this happening in Alam Damai. Shoplot so skit. Haiii why always like this la I&P
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 23 2013, 12:32 AM)
Hahaha, true, I can't imagine why they keep repeat the same mistakes. How the 5-6 or 11-12 units show lots able to sustain their business while the area unable to draw more consumers?

I&P really I&P!! If they really build at least 5-6 rows or min 150 units shop lots, it would be more vibrant and could bring a different story.
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Maybe some of our lyn forumer should sit in inp board or get them to engage one of u guys as a consultant...lol...

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM)
Yup. U can also see this happening in Alam Damai. Shoplot so skit. Haiii why always like this la I&P
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Hahaha, I seen it almost everywhere in BK.

Ex. 2 short rows of BK 2 storey shops ( abt 11-12 units ) in front of The Zest or, next to the bungalows.

The mamak opened at the corner and facing hill, the small area never ever more than 10 cars. And, that mamak was soon to kena small rob by a gang just few days into business started.



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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM)
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Maybe some of our lyn forumer should sit in inp board or get them to engage one of u guys as a consultant...lol...
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Hahah, that's I&P, their concept of township planner. The township planning in terms of road, accessibility, phases location, marketing and etc, always the same ( aside of the facade and floor plan )

Being a leader of it's own and reputable name, every big developers had it own selling point and if I&P deliver a hospital, Impian Mall, few international schools, similar 2-3 storey shops at Alam Impian, people would thought this I&P follow SP Setia foot step and copy cat.

If they are going to build a 5-6 unit shops or 11-12 units just to maximized the small and less than 1 acres space, I rather them don't build at all.



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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 23 2013, 01:08 AM)
Hahah, that's I&P, their concept of township planner. The township planning in terms of road, accessibility, phases location, marketing and etc, always the same ( aside of the facade and floor plan )

Being a leader of it's own and reputable name, every big developers had it own selling point and if I&P deliver a hospital, Impian Mall, few international schools, similar 2-3 storey shops at Alam Impian, people would thought this I&P follow SP Setia foot step and copy cat.

If they are going to build a 5-6 unit shops or 11-12 units just to maximized the small and less than 1 acres space, I rather them don't build at all.
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If this is proven and indeed a successful formula I see no reason why INP reluctant to copy. Afterall we r talking abt building a township not pocket development where one build row and row of houses and probably a few shop lots.

I really salute Sps and the magic they use to build their township. Ur not talking shop lots but corporate tower like Top Glove and convention center in Klang to be exact !!

I realize sime darby project is also suffering similar dillema where they r good in building row and row of houses but not a vibrant township.
This has to change and I'm sure inp not dump.

Nonetheless I hope AI will not suffer similar fate like kinrara. I notice they allocate quite substantial plot of land to build commercial. Of coz this only happen if if they build according to the masterplan. Finger cross. Otherwise everything will fall back to the same. AI become the 2nd kinrara in making.. Anyway kinrara not too bad also lah..hehe
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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 23 2013, 01:43 AM)
If this is proven and indeed a successful formula I see no reason why INP reluctant to copy. Afterall we r talking abt building a township not pocket development where one build row and row of houses and probably a few shop lots.

I really salute Sps and the magic they use to build their township. Ur not talking shop lots but corporate tower like Top Glove and convention center in Klang to be exact !!

I realize sime darby project is also suffering similar dillema where they r good in building row and row of houses but not a vibrant township.
This has to change and I'm sure inp not dump.

Nonetheless I hope AI will not suffer similar fate like kinrara. I notice they allocate quite substantial plot of land to build commercial. Of coz this only happen if if they build according to the masterplan. Finger cross. Otherwise everything will fall back to the same. AI become the 2nd kinrara in making.. Anyway kinrara not too bad also lah..hehe
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Yes, very much agree with that.

I also salute SPS for the time being to transform Setia Alam and Eco Park from a Klang outsider to a such lively township. Everything is there now and the upcoming launches would be more expensive and higher end. I could imagine what's next 10 years for Eco Glades and Eco Hills Semenyih, which could be better version.

Yes, it was proven, as long as time and faith being implemented and throw into it. SPS is success but I don't think Sime Darby is just yet at SPS level. USJ took a really long time to proven and Sime Darby made a mistake for fully develop USJ stretch to Putra Heights and left some unwanted piece in the whole USJ master plan, as final development of the luxurious version, USJ Heights. The USJ Taipan is almost a failure until the banks went in and turned it into very busy commercial area esp during day time until, dinner hours.

Township planning, SPS triumph and proven. Sime Darby, my comment for them would be they overbuilt the houses before commercial kicks in, therefore, it took close to 10 years to get matured. 10 years ago, nobody wanted to move into USJ due to jam and i.e, they moved to Subang Jaya's SS series due to luxury option of highways and less hectic compare to USJ. USJ Taipan only getting matured, if not mistaken during 1999-2000, exactly 10 years after the first USJ phase were built. However, I prefer the main roads ( straight and square before a traffic light ) by Sime compare to curve and snaky road compare to I&P. Unsure how the nwer part of Bdr Bukit Raja and Denai Alam doing, but DA is definitely their flagship township before Bukit Jelutong and a comparable with AI due to sizes, pricing and products were equalling each other. Putra Heights is still time waiting as their commercial, is too many vacancy.

Though it was a successful formula, it would be tough for a big company to follow the path of others and the management would be surely enough to have own strategy and marketing path for different formula to expose and further explore.

And, yes, actually Bdr Kinrara is not too bad, it is good indeed, the location is very good, I rate it much better than Bdr Puteri in terms of neighborhood and accessibility but based on the accessibility and earlier phases by I&P, it could be little terrible and couldn't make BK greater enough.

Anyhow, AI is lil different with BK, as it only fully developed by I&P together with Naza TTDI and everythinghas changed compare to 15 years ago, so, the marketing strategy had improved and hopefully I rated AI is live up the tag to emulate Kota Kemuning.


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 22 2013, 07:38 PM)
Yalor, quite impress with wat they delivered n did for landed housing quality in Bdr Kinrara, Alam Damai and Alam Impian but definitely not commercial.

Like BK9, dunno why they built 11-12 units of 2 rows shop which cant create anything n most vacant. Same goes to most BK commercial area, residents rather go Puchong Jaya or Bdr Puteri.

In term of township planning, Alam Impian is much better than Bandar Kinrara. Though I dont like their idea of snake / curvy roads instead of more straight roads due to slowing down cars but it seems doesnt. The phases of BK housing are inproper arrangement n bad accessibility in such good location of next to KL or Bukit Jalil.
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In term of residential planning in BK, I&P is not crossing my passing mark.
AI is much better planning than BK.
My advice, I&P shoplot cannot buy.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 23 2013, 01:08 AM)
Hahah, that's I&P, their concept of township planner. The township planning in terms of road, accessibility, phases location, marketing and etc, always the same ( aside of the facade and floor plan )

Being a leader of it's own and reputable name, every big developers had it own selling point and if I&P deliver a hospital, Impian Mall, few international schools, similar 2-3 storey shops at Alam Impian, people would thought this I&P follow SP Setia foot step and copy cat.

If they are going to build a 5-6 unit shops or 11-12 units just to maximized the small and less than 1 acres space, I rather them don't build at all.
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True
Only developer who hold large land bank can become Top developer, IMO both Sime Darby and I&P has failed to achieve that. Nothing to shout bout their current achievement (Top Developers Award by The Edge) now
However in between SD & I&P, SD is clearly more superior

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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Feb 22 2013, 01:19 PM)
Cannot la.. Alam Impian around 1200acre no shoplot? If I stay here I want eat chinese seafood la... Dont ask me every time must drive to Kota Kemuning eat only...

I&P must build shop around & with chinese restaurant & mamak... I know how I suffer during I work at Shah Alam near PTPL last time... Everyday nasi lemak. Want find chinese restaurant also dont have. Must drive 15mins to Hicom glenmarie got restaurant there...
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Haha I am afraid u got to wait for the shoplot in alam impian.. U got to drive to Kota kemuning or subang jaya to search for foods.. Same as me... Haha
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Feb 23 2013, 12:58 AM)
Yup. U can also see this happening in Alam Damai. Shoplot so skit. Haiii why always like this la I&P
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Totally agreed.. Alam damai shoplot really not enough..
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Feb 23 2013, 12:55 AM)
What Alam Impian lacking off is commercial, commercial, commercial, and amenities like all medium of schools, international school, hospital, and etc.
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I am actually looking forward for more international school in alam impian than others...
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QUOTE(jucl @ Feb 23 2013, 01:43 AM)
If this is proven and indeed a successful formula I see no reason why INP reluctant to copy. Afterall we r talking abt building a township not pocket development where one build row and row of houses and probably a few shop lots.
I really salute Sps and the magic they use to build their township. Ur not talking shop lots but corporate tower like Top Glove and convention center in Klang to be exact !!
Nonetheless I hope AI will not suffer similar fate like kinrara. I notice they allocate quite substantial plot of land to build commercial. Of coz this only happen if if they build according to the masterplan. Finger cross. Otherwise everything will fall back to the same. AI become the 2nd kinrara in making.. Anyway kinrara not too bad also lah..hehe
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Totally agreed!!
All the necessities that i mentioned, schools, hospital, amenities, shopping, food.
Dont be afraid to copy and paste, if that can make the township more vibrant.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Feb 24 2013, 02:47 PM)
Totally agreed!!
All the necessities that i mentioned, schools, hospital, amenities, shopping, food.
Dont be afraid to copy and paste, if that can make the township more vibrant.
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QUOTE(Williamckh64 @ Feb 24 2013, 02:36 PM)
Totally agreed.. Alam damai shoplot really not enough..
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A majority not lost in a little of shop at Alam Damai. It is because over quota for malay. If chinese stay here you cannot find any suitable to eat. There need drive inside Damai Perdana to find food & shop.

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