my ace vamp reborn skills is now
-att+20
-agi+20
-phys+3

im thinkin of takin out agi+20 to b replaced by revive
any other suggestions?

Anyone wants an ace vamp at 7 iii?
I'm trying to nego a deal, pm me if interested

U mean nobody is willing to trade 5* with just ss? I'm quite new to trading system..

Then how about trading ss with max lvl 4* guardian?

This post has been edited by ymir06kw: Feb 10 2013, 11:35 PM

Seems fair to me, maybe because I like fast Ettin lol. You can try squeezing few stat stones iii just because Nuada is NEW lol.

Hey sorry, earlier I typed sexy chariot & fast Gilgamesh is good. Cause if you reborn the sexy chariot, it'll learn quick strike & can double cast.

Also agree to remove agi buff, it's the most useless one.

Yes cause a 5* ace would probably cost around 3,000 SS (yes I'm serious).

A max non ace type 4* guardian should cost around 24 SS now I believe. Getting more expensive by the day cause everyone is preparing for rebirth.

yeah +20 agi

found out raijin fujin gets revive after reborn... holy moly for them =P gonna try get me another int fujin. best stuff ever.

Was thinking whether to trade in my ace domi for 2-3 good 5*? not sure. at this level i can't use much 4* cos they are like tofu.

I did saw a deck with 4* most likely fsemp with all +4 skills. scary deck =/ nearly lost.

Ok I see..thanks for explaining..hope everyone enjoy playing the game..

You got an Int Fujin?!?!?! Wanna trade with my int Raijin?? I'm looking for an int fujin high & low but ended up with raijins only =.=!!

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Night - I got a deal to trade my fast fujin for his int fujin.

If I get the int fujin plus the brave Dom, can trade your Int Shiva?

But his fast ettin is FSeMP while mine is clean,so I think it's still ok?

Oh yeah,someone offer me his chao crocell for my fast VM. Sounds ok? No SD btw

i was lucky i guess. his speed is decent. looking at stats, shouldn't raijin be more of phy attacker? so... powerful/fast types better? not sure...

Lol, you still want the Shiva. Okay la, CNY de. Better not drag too long.
I was thinking to trade her for fast shiva (fsemp) to reborn with my fast shiva too cause my shiva is clean.
Can we trade after coliseum? She's stuck in coli now =)
Reborn 2 fsemp is very wasting that's why I wanna reborn with a clean partner lol.

Sounds fine, go trade!!
Then you wanna trade your Ettin for my Int Raijin? Lol.


Trade immediately, personally I will not keep any Berneside Plains & Glavrow Volcano (except Ettin & Dominion) guardians anymore. Next they gonna release is the new desert guardian Kari & friends. By that time, confirm the older guardians will be as weak as a 4* ace.

Also I heard coming to Japanese version is new skills too. One of those skill is dispel haha, it'll dispel all your buffs....turning your power upped guardians into tau fu fah.

Let me put it this way. Some people spent weeks playing without getting a 5*,and Ss are quite common.

1 stat (III) increases your stats by 100 points, and these are worth about 17-25 SS each

A bad type and cheap guardian costs about 5-15 STAT(III) stones

A decent guardian will go about 25-40

A good guardian will be between 50-70

And Ace would cost you the equivalent of 100-120 STAT(III) easily

Old type aces usually are regarded as just good type for now.


What are you looking for in your deck that domi cannot do?

Chaotic crocell reduces INT, which sounds like a bad type for elemental damager.
but Vm is pretty bad by today's standards. Worth to change it fast.

This post has been edited by mbr: Feb 11 2013, 01:26 AM

wow everyone seems like active in trading , very busy day ~ hence no time posting here ~ !

just pm a seller , my ace domi for his ace shiva

he still considering ~ should be quite good deal right ? moving from volcano to snowfield ~

On the surface Raijin looks like a physical attacker but he has a wis buff that makes his wisdom higher than atk in the end. When judging a guardian, you must consider their skills too.


Woah you really like trading aces these days, it's a good trade but just be careful. Someone was forced to eat his ace rubi or Ettin just few days back because it turns out to be illicit. This happens quite common, just that people don't make a big fuss since they're well aware that 70% of the traded ace are duped cards anyway.

Ok,thanks to bro mbr and night's advice. Closed my auction and now pending trade as he went to bed XD

Alright,now I'm going to bring this matter to the mods as he withdraws his bid before any overtakes his. Yet he was accusing me that I PM him before post. I was asking him what's the skill set and he rushed me how many pts his dumb chao crocell worth in pts. I've stated in the buyout section that I accept ANY good 5* from volcano onwards. Did he or did he not is entitled for the buyout?

This post has been edited by cyapd: Feb 11 2013, 02:35 AM

You see, the problem with most auction I see is simple; the screwed up points system. It's totally when people have to post their guardians & ask the auctioneer to value them. Your problem wouldn't happen if the point system is good.

Stat (iii) gets 1 point, decent 5* gets 15 points, good 5* gets 30 points, fsemp gets 5 points.

Let's use the stat iii as a base.

So you're valuing a decent 5* for 15 stat iii. Tell me which decent 5* you can get now with 15 stat iii? Same goes to good 5*, which good 5* can you get with 30* stat iii?

Secondly, it takes approximately 25 stat stones iii to fsemp a guardian. So how can that get 5 points only? No one in their right mind will ever offer their fsemp guardians like that.

Thirdly, good 5* gets 30 points. What if someone offered a good Leviathan while someone else offered a good Serenade Banshee?

So if I offered a good Serenade Banshee & someone else offered a good Leviathan, and I realized that you value both the same.....108%, chop, sign & guarantee I will withdraw my Serenade Banshee. Firstly I didn't offer, I put it up to see how much you value it & since you valued it so low of course it'll take it back.

But Bent Yin is also wrong in attempting a buyout with a bad type when clearly you mentioned good type only. He's just using that as an excuse. He probably got upset that you under value his Chaotic Crocell.

Anyway, tell the mod this "Bent Yin made an offer with his chaotic Crocell, so he must comply with rule #3: Offers are final." So even if it does not achieve the buyout, the offer of chaotic Crocell must stay until someone else outbid him.

I don't mind for him to withdraw,but it pissed me off for him to twist the story saying I do not hv a buy out? And I PM him and not deal by post? He posted there and even pm me twice asking what's the points like for his dumb crocell. Night,can you simply buyout my VM there? No mood to play that f#%^ing auction edi. Just post a brave raijin or any gd snow type enuff d.

Chill, he's not the only law student there. I'll law his ass up to trade the Crocell.

In worse case senario....if we lose our case, ask for time extension from the mod saying people wouldn't bid when they think they can't outbid a chaotic Crocell. Correct or wrong? If i want to bid my Raijin, but saw a chaotic croll which i think better, i hold my bid. So either time extension or cancel the auction altogether.

Anyway, I've defended you there de....so I can't bid, it's too obvious. If can't solve, then gotta ask other member to bid. Just bid a cool Raijin or fujin, don't have to be obviously good. Plus, don't need to own the guardian also can since they won't know that we didn't trade.

You're a law student/graduate? Hats off to you! Btw,now there's someone just offered his max clean chao ifrit. Can I choose not to accept? But in the community chart,it appears chao ifrit is the best after ace?

Btw,Vex asked me to follow the template,do I PM him with all the info?

This post has been edited by cyapd: Feb 11 2013, 03:39 AM