Auto Wiper means it has rain sensor which the Wiper would activate as long it detects water on the windscreen

yup I think that will work... that time who knows got what better cars in the market!

thinking of getting insight because it is most optimum in term of cost and size..

considering crz because we both like it...

if go for civic hybrid.. dunno why didn't consider that.. not really fancy, like uncle's car.. oh.. my nick is uncle^R, maybe suits me

why not? I was driving a kancil until I was 31 before I bought my FD 2.0. never found any car worth my money until FD.

nah.... the latest civic dont look uncle-ish at all. looks edgy

insight on the other hand....

new Civic not really nice without some BK and mods... even then, not that nice. perhaps wait till next year, the 2013 Civic launched in US looks much better than the current Civic. hopefully we will get that in msia then you can get that.

power wise you mentioned your FL crz feels the same as your FD 2.0?

Lets put it in context :

1) I drove FD 2.0 for 6 years and found the power more than sufficient
2) the FL, driven only for 2 days. Tested it mainly within 2-3K RPM
3) Feels nippy and eager to move. at some times, maybe more eager than the FD.
4) does it mean more powerful? hell no, just means that the electric motor really helps with the very low RPM and getting off the line from 0KMh.. so from 0-30KMh it feels alot like the FD or maybe slightly better.
5) I have not stepped on it and make the car scream to 5-6k RPM

My expectations:
1) in sports mode, until 60-70kmh, i think it can be about the same as FD 2.0
2) above 70, I think, the FL will lose out. the FD is really sweet between 80 to 120...
3) now, will the S+ help? maybe, but I am not hopeful.

This is only my initial perception... will know more as i drive more in the weeks to come. after 1K service I will test the upper RPM range.

As long as the Lady in the house have a 4 door car to drive, or have a 4 door car as a spare, I think your options to get a CRZ (or any other car you like) is open anytime. It does not matter much if it is a Myvi or a BMW, most ladies do not think so much about the cars anyway (they worry more on their makeups and handbags, and Robinson's sales).

The CRZ will lose out to the FD 2.0 as the speed and rpm goes up, it runs out of breath as the Rpm creeps to 5000 or more... thanks to the small engine capacity. Low rpm, electric motor helps a lot to keep the pace up, but once the motor runs out of juice, the FD will soar by....
BTW, would like to ask, did u do any dyno before on your FD 2.0? Would like to know what kinda power does the FD deliver on the wheels?

thats true... cr-z is good for short bursts only. a fully charged battery (pre FL version) can only last me to the 3rd corner up genting.

bro, dont have to save your rpm till 1k service lah.

never dyno my car b4 .. i am not a car mod. but i did read temple of Vtec asia that the FD 2.0 does 130 on Dyno, giving it a 15% power lost due to transmission. which is better than some manual! the 1.8 has a higher power lost.

My Z, i will probably mod it a bit to give it a bit more muscle after 5 yrs warranty and by then, my wife would have gotten her choice of cars. She wants some SUV painted black with a big My Melody head on the bonnet just to irritate me for getting the Z .
exactly why the Z works for me, I dont normally push my car to very high speeds for long periods.. usually just short burst or over taking or merging lanes etc. for this purposes, the Z is perfect.

its ok... i dont go up genting When warranty over check in SC as a hobby car... this is what i envision the car to be. as it gets old.

its ok, my wife is driving it now, she will get it to 1K for me, I am currently overseas

That is why i m looking for CRZ also, i wanted a sporty car but dont need to be super fast, responsive and agile is good enough, with the benefit of ok fc and not very high maintenance cost..

not gonna MOD your car ah?? sure..?? later u will be possessed with other members and will change your RIMS.. haha.. then warranty goes KAPUT! but still can kawteam with SC..

Dont la bro racun ppl like that!! need to refrain!!

come come.. ill take u to tire shop.. come.. hahaha..

Tat time got Honda trade in promotion tat y 1k promo

how to kautim?

no leh, its not trade in promo.. dont trade in oso can get... they just need to check the system that you bought a honda in the last 6-7 yrs... then u r entitled for the 1K. So you bought honda b4, be sure to ask for the discount.

bro im a bit curious. how long cant the battery last 2013. if you tekan the acceleration normally.

I see. No wonder.